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Mick	13-06-2018 13:11

SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

https://news.sky.com/story/snp-walk-...r-row-11403493

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SNP MPs have stormed out of the House of Commons chamber during PMQs, after their Westminster leader Ian Blackford was kicked out by the Speaker.

John Bercow had ordered Mr Blackford to leave after he stood and repeatedly said: "Scotland will not be disrespected by this parliament."

The speaker shouted "very well" and waved his hand as three benches of SNP MPs rose in protest, with choruses of "bye" - although it was unclear from whom.

Joanna Cherry, the party's justice and home affairs spokesperson, appeared to wave on her way out.

"What a pity, because there are SNP MPs who had questions on the order paper," Mr Bercow said afterwards.

SNP leader and Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon tweeted minutes later that she was "right behind" her party's MPs.

She claimed Scotland and Holyrood were "being treated with contempt by Westminster - and it needs to be highlighted".

Mr Blackford spoke to the media from outside parliament afterwards, claiming it was "no stunt".

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Damien

13-06-2018 13:46

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

Stunt.

jb66	13-06-2018 14:44

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

He was given the option to have the vote now or later, when he said now the speaker said no you can have it at the end???

Hugh	13-06-2018 17:15

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35950397)

He was given the option to have the vote now or later, when he said now the speaker said no you can have it at the end???

He was only given the option to have it at the end of PMQs, which he wouldn’t accept.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44467306

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Ian Blackford refused to sit down when ordered to by John Bercow having asked for the Commons to sit in private.

This was in protest at a lack of debate on what he said was a "power grab" in the EU Withdrawal Bill.

It brought PMQs to a temporary halt as the Speaker consulted his officials on what to do next.

Mr Bercow said MPs could vote on the request for a private sitting at the end of PMQs - but when Mr Blackford refused to sit back down he was suspended for the rest of the day's sitting.

Chris

13-06-2018 17:16

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

... leaving their script behind them, complete with brackets showing where to be disappointed or outraged.

Scripted, choreographed nonsense of the sort the Scottish Socialists used to be famous for before the electorate got sick of them and voted them all out of the Scottish Parliament.

The SNP will discover the hard way that this sort of behaviour disgusts ordinary voters as much as it delights their fan base ... and that there are far more ordinary voters than fans.

Mythica

13-06-2018 17:33

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35950410)

He was only given the option to have it at the end of PMQs, which he wouldn’t accept.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44467306

I'm pretty sure he was given the option to have it now or at the end at first.

Chloé Palmas

13-06-2018 18:07

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

What a spectacle. Attention seeking, all the way from the nationalists, as per usual.

Hom3r

13-06-2018 18:12

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

My nieces girlfriend is from Glasgow and her family all voted leave and would never vote for Jimmy krankie or her looneys

heero_yuy

13-06-2018 18:20

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

May could play a blinder here: Offer yon wee Krankie another independence referendum, which they'll lose, but only if the Nats support her EU deal. Horns of a dilemma?

Chloé Palmas

13-06-2018 18:24

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

Nah make it even more interesting - tell her that the whole of the UK get a vote and Scotland can't be dragged out of the UK, against England and Wales wishes...

I hate the way that the two bit nationalists of Scotland run their mouths all day every day and all Westminster can do is look smug and say "well, we win all the votes".

Why can't the Tories fight fire with fire for once?

They are so weak over everything north of the border that they give in on stupid stuff like Devo max, let Sturgeon dictate on things like English votes (like on Fox hunting). It is absurd.

Make her beg.

Hugh	13-06-2018 18:34

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35950416)

I'm pretty sure he was given the option to have it now or at the end at first.

None of the reports I have read support that - there was confusion about the appropriate process, which was resolved when the Speaker asked his officials.

Chris

13-06-2018 19:19

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

The procedure used to be invoked by someone shouting “I spy strangers!”. It was reformed in 1998 but what it amounts to is a vote on whether to evict the press and public from the gallery. The vote would have been lost, at which point proceedings would’ve continued as normal. However, a whole lot of time would have been wasted and this is probably what Blackford was after. Childish, pointless, grandstanding nonsense. And, more to the point, exactly the kind of nonsense that the Nationalists are always complaining about in Westminster. Hypocrisy, plain and simple.

Stephen

13-06-2018 19:31

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I can't stand the SNP and the petty little nationalists.

I voted no to separating from the UK and wish they would just drop all the nonsense about trying to get another vote and causing our nation to be so split.

Mythica

13-06-2018 19:39

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35950440)

None of the reports I have read support that - there was confusion about the appropriate process, which was resolved when the Speaker asked his officials.

I was watching it and from what I recall the speaker asked if he wanted the vote now or at the end.

https://youtu.be/a8HdxaTh2lc around 1:45

Hugh	13-06-2018 19:43

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35950453)

I was watching it and from what I recall the speaker asked if he wanted the vote now or at the end.

https://youtu.be/a8HdxaTh2lc around 1:45

Thanks for that - you’re right, it shows Bercow asking which one he wanted, then saying it had to be at the end of PMQs.

nomadking

13-06-2018 19:45

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35950453)

I was watching it and from what I recall the speaker asked if he wanted the vote now or at the end.

https://youtu.be/a8HdxaTh2lc around 1:45

It wouldn't be about giving them the choice, just clarifying what they were looking for.

Damien

13-06-2018 19:50

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35950430)

May could play a blinder here: Offer yon wee Krankie another independence referendum, which they'll lose, but only if the Nats support her EU deal. Horns of a dilemma?

Last thing we need is the possibility of another union breakup to manage :erm:

Chris

13-06-2018 20:21

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35950453)

I was watching it and from what I recall the speaker asked if he wanted the vote now or at the end.

https://youtu.be/a8HdxaTh2lc around 1:45

Bercow clearly believed that he had to give Blackford the choice at first, but on advice from the officials present, understood that he had the authority to defer the vote to the end of PMQs.

Blackford fancies himself as a procedural hack but he was out-played. He was granted his vote, but not immediately. I don’t think he anticipated that. I do think the mass walk out was primed however, to be triggered under any of several possible outcomes.

What a shame that so many Scottish voters had no representation at Parliament’s most important weekly event, all because of childish grandstanding by desperate Nats who are still trying, and failing, to whip up outrage over Westminster’s desire to retain control over food labelling post-Brexit.

Paul	14-06-2018 18:21

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Wow, what a bunch of children, how old are these people, like 10 or something ?

Chloé Palmas

14-06-2018 19:51

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

And then post some selife like it was some 30 member march for some civil rights that they concocted up:

https://news.sky.com/story/snp-walko...icted-11403734

You really have to feel for the people represented by the SNP.

Dear oh dear.

Taf	14-06-2018 20:35

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

The SNP is a one-policy party, and when they don't get what they want they throw their toys out of whatever pram they're in at the time.

Mick	14-06-2018 21:13

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

I am no fan of Bercow, but the SNP here acted totally like children.

1andrew1

14-06-2018 21:23

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

Think it was also a bit of a distraction technique by the SNP away from this bad news

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Scottish government criticised over Freedom of Information delays
A report by commissioner Daren Fitzhenry found "unjustifiable, significant delays" in some cases.
He also said journalists and political researchers faced an "additional layer of clearance" that should end.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-44469059

Maggy

15-06-2018 08:33

Re: SNP Protest & Walkout of House of Commons during PMQs

They basically got sent to the naughty step and still didn't get their own way.

denphone

15-06-2018 08:35

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35950580)

I am no fan of Bercow, but the SNP here acted totally like children.

For once we are on the same page.:tu:

Stephen

15-06-2018 09:19

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35950572)

The SNP is a one-policy party, and when they don't get what they want they throw their toys out of whatever pram they're in at the time.

They are the one thing as a Scot that I am totally embarrassed about.

OLD BOY

16-06-2018 13:42

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35950617)

They are the one thing as a Scot that I am totally embarrassed about.

The thing I find difficult to understand is why so many Scots keep voting for them. I find the Scots Nats the most irritating politicians in the country. And I'm not talking about their politics, either - there is nothing wrong with people putting their views to the people and standing for election on that basis, and then working hard to achieve those goals.

No, it is their arrogance and sense of entitlement that gets to me. I wouldn't mind so much, but they are not even governing Scotland very well either, are they?

Kabaal

16-06-2018 17:39

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Lack of better options.

Sirius

17-06-2018 13:59

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35950609)

They basically got sent to the naughty step and still didn't get their own way.

Again :)

adzii_nufc

18-06-2018 03:12

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Every time I watch something like this I leave thinking this is what MPs actually do all day, dialogue is fairly accurate too.

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