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Hom3r 11-05-2018 18:55

Eurovision song contest 2018
 
I won't be watching it, but will be supporting our entry as she was born in my town Harlow.

Also the late Rik Mayell was born here.

heero_yuy 11-05-2018 19:17

Re: Eurovision song contest 2018
 
No point. It's all political voting and we'll be screwed for the temerity of voting to leave the EU.

Song is crap anyway but that's the penalty of letting the PC BBC run the show. :mad:

richard s 11-05-2018 20:02

Re: Eurovision song contest 2018
 
Yes funded by our license fee.

SnoopZ 11-05-2018 21:36

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Personally i think Eurovision is a load of political bollocks.

RizzyKing 11-05-2018 21:40

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Didn't realise this was still going guess that show's whether I'll be watching it or not lol.

denphone 12-05-2018 04:39

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As soon as someone in our family watches it then it is off to the other room.

Mick 12-05-2018 10:08

Re: Eurovision song contest 2018
 
I skip the actual main contest and just watch the point allocation process. It's really funny watching neighbours vote top points, for their neighbours.

Chad 12-05-2018 10:48

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Harmless mush

Chris 12-05-2018 16:16

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We have the popcorn in and will be having our usual laugh over the whole thing. Watching it with my kids is priceless. Their disbelieving, open-mouthed amazement is entertaining in itself. :D

SnoopZ 12-05-2018 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35946640)
We have the popcorn in and will be having our usual laugh over the whole thing. Watching it with my kids is priceless. Their disbelieving, open-mouthed amazement is entertaining in itself. :D


You're corrupting them for life! :D

Mr K 12-05-2018 19:12

Re: Eurovision song contest 2018
 
Really despair that there was is such interest in this crap.
BBC 4 has some good stuff on ( really !) .

adzii_nufc 12-05-2018 21:19

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UK had their/our song destroyed mid performance. Amateur level security.

In protest, someone breached the stage and every other layer of security to grab her mic mid performance and scream Nazis of the UK media. Great job on the protest though :rolleyes: making someone feel so small and embarrassing her on Live TV watched by millions, way to make yourself look like a gigantic asshole.

Could now work in favour, just seen the UK's odds drop from 200/1 to 12/1

She's decided not to perform again, as above this may go in favour. Then again performing again may shorten those odds further.

Aussie TV take on it: https://twitter.com/tibutler/status/...849183744?s=21

Julian 13-05-2018 00:21

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The EUROvision song contest has been won by a country from the middle east...... :rofl:

TheDaddy 13-05-2018 04:07

Re: Eurovision song contest 2018
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35946623)
I skip the actual main contest and just watch the point allocation process. It's really funny watching neighbours vote top points, for their neighbours.

I do that, always have since I was a kid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35946653)
UK had their/our song destroyed mid performance. Amateur level security.

In protest, someone breached the stage and every other layer of security to grab her mic mid performance and scream Nazis of the UK media. Great job on the protest though :rolleyes: making someone feel so small and embarrassing her on Live TV watched by millions, way to make yourself look like a gigantic asshole.

Could now work in favour, just seen the UK's odds drop from 200/1 to 12/1

She's decided not to perform again, as above this may go in favour. Then again performing again may shorten those odds further.

Aussie TV take on it: https://twitter.com/tibutler/status/...849183744?s=21

Bit like when kanye west did it to that young girl/woman at that award ceremony. I did laugh though, doughnut tonight was protesting about a lack of freedom only to be arrested immediately after, what a buffoon

Chris 13-05-2018 15:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35946665)
The EUROvision song contest has been won by a country from the middle east...... :rofl:

The European Broadcasting Union has had members from far beyond continental Europe for decades. Apparently a number of Arab middle eastern countries are also eligible to participate due to their EBU membership, but they don’t because Israel does.

Maggy 13-05-2018 16:32

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I think it should renamed as the voting has very little do do with the actual songs. Might as well have a bunfight..I've only ever purchased one winning song which still remains the best winner ever.

denphone 13-05-2018 16:36

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The only decent song l can remember is the song that won it in 1974?.

pip08456 13-05-2018 16:41

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Don't care, haven't watched it for YEARS! I can't even remember when I last watched it it's that long ago.

heero_yuy 13-05-2018 17:10

Re: Eurovision song contest 2018
 
We watched Star Wars IV. Extended version.

RizzyKing 13-05-2018 18:40

Re: Eurovision song contest 2018
 
We watched tropic thunder probably less comedy then eurovision but tom cruise cracks me up in that film.

Paul 13-05-2018 19:03

Re: Eurovision song contest 2018
 
I only knew it was even on becasue of this topic.

I watched Agents of SHIELD, Gotham, and Once Upon a Time. :)

richard s 13-05-2018 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35946697)
I think it should renamed as the voting has very little do do with the actual songs. Might as well have a bunfight..I've only ever purchased one winning song which still remains the best winner ever.


Waterloo!

1andrew1 13-05-2018 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35946575)
Yes funded by our license fee.

isn't it funded by the country that wins so we've not had to cough up for it for a long time. This is why Father Ted featured the attempt by Ireland to lose it by coming up with a terrible song. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYzVMcgWhg
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/f...mand/21521-005

Chris 14-05-2018 09:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35946725)
isn't it funded by the country that wins so we've not had to cough up for it for a long time. This is why Father Ted featured the attempt by Ireland to lose it by coming up with a terrible song. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYzVMcgWhg
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/f...mand/21521-005

Participants make a contribution to the funding regardless of where its held, and Germany, Spain, France, Italy and the UK make the biggest contribution of all. That’s why they always get a free pass to the Saturday night final.

Hugh 14-05-2018 10:35

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https://eurovision.tv/about/faq

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How is the Eurovision Song Contest financed?

The Eurovision Song Contest is a non-profit event, mostly financed by:

contributions from the Participating Broadcasters (the so-called participation fee), adding up to €6.2 million combined. This fee is different for each country based on the solidarity principle that the strongest shoulders carry most weight. It is at the sole discretion of each Participating Broadcaster to decide if they wish to make public the financial details of their participation;

a contribution from the Host Broadcaster, which is generally between €10 and €20 million, depending on local circumstances and available resources.

a contribution from the Host City, either financially or ‘in kind’ (e.g. covering expenses of city branding, side events, security, etc.);

commercial revenue from sponsorship agreements, ticket sales, televoting and merchandise, which varies from year to year.

On average, over 90 percent of all available funds are being earmarked for the TV production and event organisation. Approximately 5% of available funds represent the budget for the EBU’s Eurovision Song Contest team and its partners. Any remaining funds are being reimbursed to the Participating Broadcasters, for as long local legislation allows such reimbursement.The budget is overlooked and approved by the Reference Group, on behalf of all Participating Broadcasters, on an annual basis.

Chris 14-05-2018 11:02

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I actually think it’s counterproductive for us to get a free pass to the final. We already have a problem with complacency around our Eurovision entry (goodness knows why, we haven’t won it for 20 years, which means we haven’t won it at all in the modern era with expanded participation and semi finals). Guaranteeing our final spot removes one of the key incentives to produce something good. It also reduces our exposure to the voting public. For years now, this competition hasn’t been about first impressions of a song nobody’s heard until Saturday night. Many countries promote their song extensively in the months leading up to the competition and in the week itself, all bar six of the songs have been broadcast live, and voted upon, already. Not being part of one of the midweek live broadcasts is causing all of the big five (plus the host) to miss a major promotional opportunity.

Stephen 14-05-2018 11:49

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At least they are trying to change and improve the voting systemto try and give others a better change of scoring points.

Carth 14-05-2018 12:33

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Should be put out to pasture IMO

I'm just glad that Simon Cowell doesn't have a finger in the pie otherwise it would be on twice a week :D

Hugh 14-05-2018 13:09

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A reasonable number of people seem to enjoy it (I'm not amongst their number) - it seems harmless enough, and entertains some people (in the UK, 6.9 million people watching was the average figure, with a peak of 8.1 million).

Better viewing figures than Britain's Got Talent (which I don't watch either).

denphone 14-05-2018 13:30

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Yeah several of my family watch both these programmes so l am certainly not going to upset them even though l don't watch them.:D

Arthurgray50@blu 14-05-2018 22:57

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I think the Eurovision Song Contest is totally politically motive and total bollocks.

I simply cannot understand why the BBC waste so much of OUR money. But there again each time we enter, we might as well bet on where will finish from BOTTOM

Stephen 14-05-2018 23:27

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That's why they have introduced changes to the voting in recent years.

tweetiepooh 15-05-2018 11:19

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Israel would have to be counted "in Europe" as they would stand no chance in a middle eastern competition. Quite what Australia has to do with it other than their flag still having the Union Flag in it.

Stephen 15-05-2018 11:32

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The reason for Australia now being part of Eurovision. They were first included in 2015 as part of the 50th anniversary event.

Quote:

This was originally meant to just be a one-off event but later on in 2015 it was confirmed by SVT that Australia would be entering again the following year.

The reasoning is basically down to TV rights. Former Bake Off host Mel Giedroyc described how it came about on BBC’s Eurovision: You Decide: "The simple fact is, Australia’s host TV broadcaster SBS is part of the European Broadcasting Union, otherwise known as the EBU.

"And this is a qualification requirement for entering the Eurovision Song Contest.
SBS have been broadcasting Eurovision in Austrailia for over 30 years.

Also same reason that Is real and some other non EU countries take part.

Quote:

Yes Israel is also not in Europe.

Israel has been competing regularly in the competition since 1973.

This is allowed because the Israel Broadcasting Authority is a member of the Eurovision governing body

Chris 15-05-2018 14:33

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I think the problem is the mindset that attempts to categorise any entrant as a “non-EU” country. The European Broadcasting Union is nothing to do with the EU and never has been. The membership of the EBU is made up of public service broadcasters, not nation states. The broadcaster may or may not be state owned and there may be more than one member in any given country.

The EBU’s name is a historical artefact. The organisation was founded in Europe and Europe is where its centre of gravity still is, but it has long since spread to have a reach into every populated continent on earth.

The Eurovision Song Contest is its flagship event and this has retained a European bias for practical reasons. It’s a live, evening event (ok, now actually a series of events) whose audience and participants mostly come from within a couple of time zones of Central Europe. There would be serious difficulties in transplanting it too far from there. Indeed, should Australia ever win, they’re not allowed to host the next year. They have to choose a European country to do it for them. Some might say that’s the UK’s best hope of ever hosting it again ...


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