When sky Q over internet begins, will you consider moving from VM?
 

Personally i'll decide when I see what's on offer and for what price.

I think people will be tempted as they'll be able to get Sky Atlantic and it should work out cheaper than paying VM and Now TV.

Those who only have cable because they can't or don't want a dish on their wall will finally have a choice.

Apparently, it will also include a Freeview tuner, so that should end the current situation with VM where channels on Freeview (like Freesports) aren't available to paying customers! Of course, this would need an aerial, but since DSO I've seen people receive excellent reception even with indoor aerials.

I think that this could be the biggest threat to cable TV since the introduction of satellite television in the 1980's.

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I use neither Virgin nor Sky. The series that interest me have been made available to me by friends either in the US or Canada. I get to see them before they appear here.

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Sky Atlantic is tosh. Can get it via Sky Go, but there's never been anything on worth watching, mostly crap US imports.

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And who supports what? I can just see Sky supporting the box saying it's the ISP and the ISP the box.

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Though internet is much more reliable these days, I still would not like to trust it for all TV programmes, especially with the extra strain put on it by lots of people streaming

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Lots of people still use Sky satellite and will do for a long while yet. I'd much sooner use the Sky Q over satellite if it's an option.

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I'm a "maybe". I currently have the full VM TV (whatever that's called these days) and top it up with Netflix and the occasional month with NowTV when there's something I fancy on Sky Atlantic. I can't have a dish on the outside of my home and have never wanted to directly line Murdoch's pocket, but neither of these will be relevant in 2019. We've been NTL/VM TV customers since the late nineties.
We're under contract until next January and we are in no hurry to leave VM/Netflix as, Atlantic aside, they give us everything we want to watch at an affordable price. But I'm intrigued by the new Sky Q and when it finally launches I'll consider the price (I'm on a good deal at the moment and I'm not prepared to pay more) and reports on its reliability. Having said that, I'm more likely to drop VM TV and just use Netflix and NowTV, possibly with a Freeview recorder, than try something new and probably flakey at launch. At the moment, Mrs Nialli is very happy with our pair of V6 boxes and her Netflix/VM combo, and that's probably the biggest factor of all...
But never say never, which is why I've said 'Maybe'

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I'd imagine it will be like the Italian box with terrestrial tuners.

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I doubt that having a tuner as part of the Sky Q will be that much of a draw, to be honest. If you have an aerial, then I would imagine that you will already have resolved the problem of the 'missing' terrestrials on Virgin, not that they are anything to write home about.

I have an aerial and I can receive the terrestrial channels both through my TV and through my DVD recorder. So there doesn't appear to be anything in the new Sky offer that would interest me, but maybe they will have a few surprises in store to make me re-consider.

The Sky Q interface is far better than Virgin's, but I prefer the way Virgin works. I really don't like the fact that you have to wait for your on demand selections to be downloaded before you can watch them, for example.

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you can start watching a download before it has finished downloading.

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For me UHD is usually available to view in under 15 seconds.

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In your opinion of course, i'd be surprised if there wasn't something on Atlantic that most people would enjoy.

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For me, the UHD is the big selling point. That would definitely tempt me if Virgin did not move forward on this soon.

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I think that might be one of the reasons why there will be a terrestrial TV tuner included, so that all TV is not lost in the event of internet failure.

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I'm also on a very good deal, but would certainly not pay any more either. If this was ever withdrawn or reduced i'd consider Sky Q over the internet along with all other providers.

Also, as it stands, Sky cannot legally refuse to put all the dross onto their EPG if they pay the appropriate fees. I imagine that this service will be covered by cable legislation where they can choose what goes on as VM can (apart from the PSB channels in SD that they have to carry).

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Not just his opinion ;)

Not until the majority of the UK gets decent fibre internet.

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That's true. When you have fibre optic broadband it's easy to forget that some parts of the country (not sure how much though) don't yet have this.

I guess it's mostly rural or sparsely populated areas.

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Maybe not, but I was replying to him, not you, anyway, it is still my opinion that Atlantic broadcast some decent shows, and I would be surprised if most people didn't find something on there that they liked.

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Agreed, Max. There is no disagreement that the good shows are surrounded by rubbish, but that is true of all the smaller entertainment channels, regrettably.

Unfortunately, I think a lot of people miss the real gems in the schedule for this reason - they don't tend to look hard enough! Remember 'The Night Of', for example? Brilliant series.

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Not for us old fossils in our household.;)

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It's only important if you have a larger screen, Den. If you watch on a screen less than 40", HD will do just fine.

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You need a much bigger screen than that to benefit from UHD in most rooms.

HDR is where you'll see the benefit

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The difference between HD and SD is that whatever distance you are from the screen you are in focus (try it), apart from that on small screen tv there is no other appreciable difference.

I would image that UHD gives you extra detail (and vibrancy of colours), whether this is appreciable on screens below 48" only the individual will be able to tell.

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We have a 49" and UHD is definitely better.

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An awful lot of people waiting for SkyQ on broadband are going to be disappointed.

BT in our village is unable to support their own UHD channel as 50Mbps is classed as not suitable to provide that channel along with other channels and services.

The viilage next to use have recently had BT Superfast Broadband installed and now get 30Mpbs.

Superfast Broadband is only defind as above 20Mpbs.

Those over 60Mpbs may be OK - but the service is will be limmited to who can actually do multi-records over a selection of HD/UHD channels and still expect computers to browse fast and somebody to play games etc.

A reduced SkyQ via Broadband is most likely - no where near the current satellite service.

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Multiple recordings using the same system BT TV does is pointless it really needs recordings to the cloud to be worth having.

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You need to be able to record to your cloud without the need of your incoming broadband being used.

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That's how cloud recordings work , a copy of the show is made available automatically for you.

In the US YouTube TV allows unlimited recordings and storage and can be saved for 9 months.

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Yep - completely remote from your house - from the Sky system straight to your cloud without having to go through your home network to get to your cloud to record.

But even then - some people with 2-3 televisions (or a/v devices) may soon find there internet just can not do it if wanting to access several things at once.

VM users should not have any issues - but many of those using BT owned systems could find the SkyQ via Broadband is just not practical.

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Completely agree , we are fortunate to receive full speed over Openreach so our 76mb connection would generally be fine as we rarely ever have over 2 Sky boxes watching simultaneously.

The problem comes for those further away who only receive slower speeds. In my opinion Sky is dipping it's toes in the water with this product however I do believe going forward with things such as G.fast more and more will see this as a viable option. Not sure on what timeframe but eventually the dish will go but certainly not in the short term.

I wouldn't say VM users wouldn't have any issues there are areas reported who suffer with peak time congestion.

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Never say no to anything ,is likely, well that is very much down to Virgin upping their game

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Same here.

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The only time I would consider making a change would be when other providers can match Virgins BB speeds in my area.

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You might have to wait a while for that.

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I wonder if you'd be able to have Sky Q internet using VM broadband?? Not sure if Sky could insist that you used their BB or if VM could prevent you using theirs for Sky Q.

How would you feel if this was a hypothetical option?

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That thought came to me a while ago too, Richard, it would put an end to there not being enough broadband to cover what Sky would need to run it.

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Sky wouldn't be able to assure quality of service over Virgins network.

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That is exactly my thought.

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What’s the problem with having VM broadband with Sky Q?

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I’ve had issues with Sky Q and still have Dolby Digital 5.1 drop out issues with the V6 box, not the old VHD though.

Don’t have the same or any issues with Freeview/Youview.

So, i would consider BT, if it was as stable as Youview, which it partly is anyway. Shame they didn’t win the England Test Cricket contract though. I would go for it now.

Sky no dish is still interesting if it is the same spec as Sky Q, 4K etc and has a more stable box.

Virgin Broadband seemed to work fine with Sky Q. It would be more expensive to have both together though.

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When Sky Q was first introduced you had to have Sky broadband, but that is no longer the case.

If you don't use Sky broadband, however, any Sky Q miniboxes won't function as Wi-Fi hotspots.

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But that's for the current satellite box , the broadband is only used for On Demand.

Nobody knows what will happen with the internet version of Q.

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That's right, and will you still need a Sky Q box? The whole service could be provided through the internet with recordings to the cloud.

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I would say recordings would be kept on the box to save on server space and net congestion, as that would be massive.

Uploads speeds are not quick enough.

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Uploads speeds for what ?

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I think you will find that recordings to the cloud rather than hard drives will be the norm in the future.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1525105615 ;)

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I think we all know that our stuff isn't really stored in a little cumulus in the sky, Hugh! :D

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You would be amazed how many don’t...

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It seems Apple TV will be one of the devices delivering TV over the Internet via the Q app , it’s already available in Germany. If you search on YouTube for Sky Q Apple TV and Sky Q Samsung TV you’ll see videos showing the Service.

https://www.bestappletv.com/news/wit...q-be-uk-bound/

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Very unlikely my area only get's up to 40mb speeds via the Openreach cables one that isn't fast enough for 4K streaming and once you start watching HD channels on a few boxes and browse the web the speeds will soon drop

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G.fast is being installed in many areas , Openreach claims it will be available to over 10 million premises by 2020 this should help many properties with those problems you mention.

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Hopefully

It's only the fact that VM are the only ones providing a decent speed in my area that has stopped me switching up to 40mb isn't fast enough especially when it could be as low as 25mb at peak times

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Sky without cable or satellite: Sky X launches in Austria

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2019...es-in-austria/

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is sky x not just now tv for the Austrians?

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Apparently not , in Austria Now TV is called Sky Ticket the articles I've read suggest that Sky X will replace this product.

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I forecast a lot of 'buffering'. A hardrive is always going to be more reliable.

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There's no buffering with Now TV.

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If you have sufficient bandwidth of course. If not the picture quality can degrade significantly.

I do have one question though where will people record from to the cloud if the future doesn’t have linear channels?

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You do not actually record anything into the cloud. As I understand it, the programmes will be there already; you simply bookmark your choices.

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From the description Sky X in Austria is not Sky Q over the internet - it may look like a Sky Q box in the picture but from what they say it's just a streaming box, very similar in capability to the Now TV Smartbox. The big difference is that it seems to have HD Sky channels, which Now TV still doesn't have (although the 720p is very good).
Sky Q over the internet was promised by Sky for 2018 but never materialised. HD Now TV has also been "coming soon" for some time.

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I haven't dug the press releases out but is that how Sky worded it Q over the internet I genuinely can't remember ?

Sky over the internet will be an OTT solution in my opinion but a fuller service than that which Now TV currently is.

I'd imagine Comcast will want one platform , with Sky in Europe and Comcast in the USA.

Comcast streaming device wonder if they'll both employ the same tech


https://www.ubergizmo.com/2018/11/co...net-customers/

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Technically, 720p is HD, but only just! It's a fairly decent picture, though, as you say.

I think the new internet version of Sky will be launched in the UK in 2020.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Now TV prices rise, too :(

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Not good if your an existing customer but usually means crazy attractive prices for those who aren't.

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Now TV have recently slashed their free trial in half to one week, it's been speculated that this is because of Game of Thrones returning.

Sky Cinema will be increasing to £11.99 per month from 2/4/19. I've seen a post that says that Sky Entertainment is also going up, but not seen anything official to confirm this.

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I got NOW TV a couple of weeks ago, via their stick, I only paid £19.99 in total and that included two months for the Entertainment channel, which has all the Atlantic shows that I like, including GOT.

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Yes, seeing all those on demand programmes that have been on Sky Atlantic makes you realise what we missed. Unfortunately, Sky Atlantic seems to have less good stuff on it now. Additionally, the next series of Game of Thrones will be the last. I hope it doesn't then degenerate into another Sky One.

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Yeah, they seem to be offering a choice between the free trial or paying a little for a month or so. I got a months Sky Cinema, a months Entertainment and 5 months kids for a fiver.

Whatever you do, don't pay the full price for a renewal pass. This is the best offer at the moment that i've found as the cheap passes on eBay seem to have dried up:

https://www.cdkeys.com/top-up-cards/nowtv

Also, if you cancel with the reason "I can't afford it", you will usually get a cheap offer. I've known people get 3 months for the price of 1 or £1 a month.

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Thanks, Richard..