Pavement parking fines
 

Around here it's Uni students who park legally, but residents who park illegally. I hope our council starts to take action too.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...tton-Coldfield

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Its only gonna get worse here in Swansea. More and more student accommodations with no parking available.

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It's a bit of a grey area though - is it illegal to park on the pavement if there are no signs telling you not to?

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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-high...ing-238-to-252

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Some councils operate by a "rule of thumb" that you must park to allow passage of a double baby buggy.

It has been illegal to drive on the pavement since 1883 and section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 is used in the current Highway Code under rule 145, but finding a car on the pavement won't always mean a fine or points as "driving on the pavement" was not witnessed.

Earlier this year the Government set out plans in their Accessibility action plan which could change the rules surrounding pavement parking.

Under section 8 49-51 it outlines the problem of pavement parking and the action going forward.

-8.49 As set out in the 2017 manifesto, where you live, shop, go out, travel or park your car should not be determined by your disability. Vehicles parked on pavements can cause significant problems and potential danger to people who are blind or partially sighted, and to wheelchair users, among others.

-8.50 Local authorities have the powers to introduce pavement parking restrictions where they consider it appropriate and the Department for Transport has taken steps to assist them in this.

-8.51 We convened a roundtable meeting in 2016 where it was identified that the major concerns affecting the ability to introduce and enforce pavement parking prohibitions (outside of London) were issues relating to the processing of Traffic Regulation Orders. We are planning to launch a survey in autumn 2017 in order to gather evidence about the current situation, the costs and timescales for processing TROs, and information about options for change.

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Thanks. The 'MUST NOT' for London is clear enough; the 'SHOULD NOT' for elsewhere is a little more vague.

Thanks. It'll be interesting to see if anything becomes of the action plan; processing TFOs outside London may have prohibitive costs given the potential for challenge in individual cases.

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Who needs fines when you've installed "cat claws".

Source

http://www.cableforum.uk/board/attac...4&d=1516356869

Having to fork out on a couple of new tyres will be quite sufficient deterrant IMHO.

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That's a crime against welding :shocked:

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Bit tacky. :D

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Could be fun if you need to mount the kerb for some reason. I bet ours isn't the only place where silly driving and parking forces users onto the kerb. And who fits them? You would also need to warn drivers to beware else someone will get billed.

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True that

As with everything that looks a cheap, straight forward cure for a common problem, the 'hidden extras' involved in implementing the idea make it not so economical.

Using them around the areas of potential terrorist targets may work . . . although if concrete barricades and police armed with H&K machine guns doesn't deter them nothing will I guess.

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or the Emergency services need to mount the kerb ..........


The simple fact of life in many places is that if people did not park partly on pavements, no traffic (other than moterbikes) would get through.

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Less cars is the answer. If people didn't feel the need for several cars per household it would solve a lot of problems. Tax the hell out of extra cars in each house. Oh, and improve public transport, make it cheap too. It's a revolutionary idea, wonder why nobody has ever thought of it ??

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Tax everything and get the bus everywhere how very labour .
Will you be bringing in compulsory brown ale drinking ?.

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If it's Newcastle Brown count me in!

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Such nonsense as usual.

One "car per household" would not solve the issue, since the problem is no driveways, and thin streets.

Oh, and households have perfectly good reasons to have more than one car btw.

Did it ever occur to you that people in the same house can actually work in different cities, and different hours.
No ? thought not, just the usual, "they have two cars, so they must be being extravagant" :rolleyes:

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Genuine question. If there was cheap. reliable public transport, would you use it?

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I've always used public transport where possible but for most people, the fares are too high, a lot of the time the buses don't go where you want them to go and lack of frequency is often a problem outside the big cities.

Even people around my neighbourhood (including me with my concessionary pass) who catch buses regularly have two cars.

Unless you have cheap or free bus travel, an intricate web of routes and frequent services, people are not going to ditch their cars. There simply isn't the funding to enable such a socialist Utopia and so it's not going to happen.

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Cheap & Reliable are not the only requirements.

The transport would need to go where I actually need it to go, from somewhere near me, and at the times I need it. It could be free and run like clockwork every 15 minutes, but I'm not going to use it if its a 3/4 mile walk away, takes 3 times longer to get anywhere, doesnt go near my workplace, and stops running at midnight.

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That is basically the problem. However I do have to say that if I am out after midnight, I'm not in a fit state to drive!:beer:

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I work until midnight. :)

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With a high out of a high?

Don't answer that!

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I cannot answer it, because i dont understand it :confused:

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You're not on your own, I don't understand it either.

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I apologise. I can't remember what I meant to say, I seem to have had some sort of spellcheck malfunction!

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Exactly. People have cars because it suits their requirement to get to and from where they need to, when they want to.

I'm about 2/3 minutes walk from a decent (around every 5 mins day time) bus route, but it only goes into the city centre, so if I'm not going there, I have to then find another bus out to where I'm going, and even assuming that the destination is on a similar frequency, you still have to walk to the stop then maybe wait for the bus when you're there. Also, going by bus is always going to be slower because unlike a car it needs to stop at bus stops to let people on and off (At least NCT has been exact fare in the city area for as long as I can remember, so no messing around with change).

Now if buses could be customised to provide a door-to-door direct journey... oh wait, there's a smaller version which already exists... a car