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weenie 08-09-2017 08:59

Pensioners view blocked by Virgin Media cabinet
 
I can understand why this couple have made this complaint after seeing this on the news last night and I cannot help but wonder if VM could have installed them in a more suitable area or was this really the only place these boxes could be installed.


http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...oadband_boxes/

papa smurf 08-09-2017 09:23

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Originally Posted by weenie (Post 35915729)
I can understand why this couple have made this complaint after seeing this on the news last night and I cannot help but wonder if VM could have installed them in a more suitable area or was this really the only place these boxes could be installed.


http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...oadband_boxes/

if the cabinets are cabled up and active it's a big job moving them and very expensive .

Ken W 08-09-2017 09:37

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35915732)
if the cabinets are cabled up and active it's a big job moving them and very expensive .



That is Virgin Media's problem.


Would they buy a house with that cabinet in front of their house, I suspect not.

Osem 08-09-2017 10:24

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When our road was cabled years ago the cable company wanted to put the green cabinet right next to a neighbour's side wall. They complained on the basis that this would enable anyone who so desired to climb over their wall into their back garden. The company concerned moved it 10m down the hill to just outside their front garden which they were fine with. IIRC little or no cabling had been done at that point so it wasn't a big job.

I can't help thinking that there are times when a little bit of common sense would go a long way but there will always be cases where there's no ideal solution and someone or other is going to have to put up with something they don't like.

papa smurf 08-09-2017 12:21

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35915735)
That is Virgin Media's problem.


Would they buy a house with that cabinet in front of their house, I suspect not.

they give notice of their intentions well in advance of starting work and if no objections are raised the work goes ahead .

Osem 08-09-2017 15:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35915757)
they give notice of their intentions well in advance of starting work and if no objections are raised the work goes ahead .

Do they give notice of how big the damned things are going to be? ;)

It's all a bit of a dilemma. Nobody wants one of these things outside their house I'm sure but they have to go somewhere so someone's going to wind up the loser. It's like street lights, near here there are a number of properties who can't solve their parking problems because there's a street light slap bang in the middle of what would be their drive. They will have known that when buying the house of course but it's still a disadvantage especially now off road parking is at a premium which may not have been the case at the time of purchase.

There's a street near us in which parking was never an issue until the knocked down a small car sales garage and built about a dozen homes on the plot. As usual not enough off road parking was provided for the new properties which meant the nearby residents found it harder to park and one by one had to pay for crossovers to be installed and their small front gardens surfaced over. That's except for the ones with tress, street lamps or road signs right outside...

Ignitionnet 08-09-2017 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weenie (Post 35915729)
I can understand why this couple have made this complaint after seeing this on the news last night and I cannot help but wonder if VM could have installed them in a more suitable area or was this really the only place these boxes could be installed.


http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...oadband_boxes/

I'm going to speculate that that was the cheapest place to put them.

Saying that perhaps the estate is partially public and partially private so options were limited :shrug:

Due to the nature of the cabinets moving them is... problematic.

RichardCoulter 08-09-2017 19:30

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What exactly do these large cabinets do? I sometimes pass one that always seems to be making a buzzing noise!

I have a much smaller one outside my home, what are those for?

Thanks.

heero_yuy 08-09-2017 19:34

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IIRC Daddy cab has the CATV / BB amplifiers and splitters in, Mummy cab has the phones and Baby cab is a local TV/BB splitting.

Got all three over the road from us.

papa smurf 08-09-2017 19:56

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35915806)
What exactly do these large cabinets do? I sometimes pass one that always seems to be making a buzzing noise!

I have a much smaller one outside my home, what are those for?

Thanks.

the big on is a telephony mux cab and cross connexion point ' the medium size is an O F amplifier /splitters / feed cables and power supply this supplies signal to the smaller cabs with amplifiers in them to distribute the signal

Paul 08-09-2017 20:58

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Presumably they have to go somewhere on the street, so if they moved them, someone else would then be blocked ?


(I always thought VM Cabs were green as well, they all are around here).

papa smurf 08-09-2017 21:03

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35915819)
Presumably they have to go somewhere on the street, so if they moved them, someone else would then be blocked ?


(I always thought VM Cabs were green as well, they all are around here).

a grey cabinet is 10 degrees cooler inside than a green one due to it's reflective properties so grey has become the new green

Paul 08-09-2017 21:06

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35915822)
a grey cabinet is 10 degrees cooler inside than a green one due to it's reflective properties

Is that actually true, or are you making it up :erm:

papa smurf 08-09-2017 21:13

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35915823)
Is that actually true, or are you making it up :erm:

no it's true the company carried out studies on similar cabs in spain ,in the summer months in this country cabs are plagued with overheating problems ,but grey ones fair much better.

Onramp 08-09-2017 22:00

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It might have been a better choice to put them in a place where the types of residents were less likely to be of the complaining variety - both for the benefit of the residents and the company. I think though, VM have changed the way they decide where to put these MSAN boxes, so the problem should be less pronounced in newer areas where community consultations of the plans take place. Wherever you put it however, there will always be at least one person that can't support that amount of change and will write a strongly worded letter.

Sorry if that sounds bitter. I have 700kb/s upload here :D

Julian 09-09-2017 10:35

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Why can't the contents of these cabinets be put underground?

papa smurf 09-09-2017 10:41

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35915840)
Why can't the contents of these cabinets be put underground?

would you keep your computer in an underground chamber that fills up with water every time it rains

Julian 09-09-2017 12:19

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35915842)
would you keep your computer in an underground chamber that fills up with water every time it rains

No, but then I wouldn't put it in a 6' x 6' box outside someone's window.:)

A hole in the ground can be waterproofed can't it?

Ignitionnet 09-09-2017 12:47

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35915851)
No, but then I wouldn't put it in a 6' x 6' box outside someone's window.:)

A hole in the ground can be waterproofed can't it?

How do you plan on putting line cards into said hole, carrying out any maintenance or explaining to Ofcom why people have no phone service for weeks if the seal fails? :)

Putting that beast underground on a street would be a massive undertaking. It would require a huge excavation, the moving of all other utilities, water, gas, electricity, BT, it'd be a nightmare.

The only option would be to literally do a BT and put one above ground but in a building. Unlike BT though this would have to be done for every 500 premises served.

v0id 09-09-2017 19:41

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What view is this cab blocking, are the miffed they can't see into the neighbours window over the other side of the road?

Onramp 09-09-2017 22:42

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Maybe it's more difficult to curtain-twitch, with an MSAN for a window.

TheDaddy 10-09-2017 09:52

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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35915910)
What view is this cab blocking, are the miffed they can't see into the neighbours window over the other side of the road?

Yes how unreasonable for them to want a little light in their flat, selfish old gits

SnoopZ 10-09-2017 11:57

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35915955)
Yes how unreasonable for them to want a little light in their flat, selfish old gits

Absolutely i couldn't agree more.

Osem 10-09-2017 12:30

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Blimey, let's get it into perspective, the cabinets are not pretty but it's hardly a block of flats rendering their flat pitch dark. There's a hedge behind about half of it so unless they were planning to keep that hedge the same size/thickness then the amount of light they've lost because of the cabinets is pretty small and will reduce as the hedge grows and hides it. Without knowing what the other installation options were it's hard to say whether much more could have been done to site the box in a less obtrusive place. Nobody is going to want one right outside their home and of course for it to suddenly appear is going to be a bit of a shock to these people so I do have some sympathy.

SnoopZ 10-09-2017 12:43

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Its bang outside their window and far too high made worse as the foot path is higher than where the house is built, so i think it is out of order putting it there, so for the people saying they see no problem with it, would those people like it right outside their patio window? I think not....

Osem 10-09-2017 12:55

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35915969)
Its bang outside their window and far too high made worse as the foot path is higher than where the house is built, so i think it is out of order putting it there, so for the people saying they see no problem with it, would those people like it right outside their patio window? I think not....

There's clearly a problem with it, the scale of the problem is the issue and these cabinets obscure a view a couple of feet higher and wider than the existing hedge does.

Qtx 10-09-2017 13:35

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Probably blighted the property value by a few thousand too.

That nice bit of warm light coming between the buildings opposite they will no longer get. Probably cost them a few quid a year on heating bills for something so simple.

But most of all, who wants to look out of their window on to that HUGE cabinet, made worse by the low windows and position of the property to begin with. One gets the feeling this was not considered at all in the process of choosing a position.

papa smurf 10-09-2017 15:28

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35915973)
Probably blighted the property value by a few thousand too.

That nice bit of warm light coming between the buildings opposite they will no longer get. Probably cost them a few quid a year on heating bills for something so simple.

But most of all, who wants to look out of their window on to that HUGE cabinet, made worse by the low windows and position of the property to begin with. One gets the feeling this was not considered at all in the process of choosing a position.

good broadband is a top selling point with houses they'll get top speed no problem ;)

TheDaddy 10-09-2017 20:27

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35915977)
good broadband is a top selling point with houses they'll get top speed no problem ;)

It'd be funny if it were like in the old ondigital days and they were to close to get a signal :D

Ignitionnet 14-09-2017 12:13

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VM have agreed to move them.

http://www.barrheadnews.com/news/155...boxes_removed/

SnoopZ 14-09-2017 12:15

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About time, lets hope it doesn't take too long!

heero_yuy 14-09-2017 13:08

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Common sense has prevailed. It's a pity it wasn't used in the first place and save a lot of wasted time and money.

papa smurf 14-09-2017 13:27

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will they still be happy when they get the bill for moving it:)

Kursk 14-09-2017 14:04

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35916398)
will they still be happy when they get the bill for moving it:)

Are they moving the pensioners or the boxes? ;)


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