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My router (FritzBox) off SH3 in modem mode was temporarily allocated an IPv6 address overnight (2a02:8800:f000:1c01:e228:6dff:xxxx:xxxx) by VM.

Back to IP4 only this morning.

Maybe the start of some pre IPv6 rollout testing?

Stephen

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One can only hope, it's long overdue.

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Not seen anything yet, however i'm IPv6 ready, we can only dream Virgin might finally be.

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"Staff trial" starting soon?

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...addresses.html

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Interesting the part about "secret" features, I suspect the IPv6 trial involves more than just IPv6 - VoIP perhaps?

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:Yes:

Needs to be in place for the VoIP project - not enough RFC1918 addresses for all the MTAs.

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What will this mean to the end user?

My Asus RT-N66U supports it as does my Xbox 1.

I guess the SH3 does.

Can/will both IPv4 & IPv6 be used at the same time?

What is the benefit other than more addresses?

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afaik all the shub's do and many many devices have for many years

if your 3rd party router supports ipv6 (which it most certainly will) then it doesn't matter whether the shub does or not because it is only the "router" you need to worry about.

ish. As far as you are concerned you will have an ipv6 address but the isp will have hardware in place which can convert it to an ipv4 address as it enters and leaves the network to services which do not support ipv6

encryption for starters but the primary benefit is addresses. In my house there are 3 smart phones, 3 tablets, two sky boxes, two printers, two pcs, two laptops, two tvs, 2 bluray players, dvd player, 2 media players and 2 NAS servers which are all networked. I haven't got round to networked fridges and all that stuff yet :) but ipv6 isn't about giving isps more addresses so they can have more customers, it is about letting every device on the planet having a globally routable ip address.

If you are into your networking and already have a solid understanding of ip addresses and how data is transmitted across a network then these are good videos to watch.

I strongly recommend anyone who has an interest in ipv6 to at least watch the first one to get a basic understanding. There is some stuff you might not have heard of before wand will go over your head but you'll get the gist of it.

The three combined are about 45 mins but they are well worth the watch and you'll appreciate why ipv6 is so much better (and most people won't know or care why) and why isps and businesses need a period of transition.

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That's not necessarily true, Max. How IPv6 is deployed depends entirely on the ISP in question, however IPv6 and IPv4 can run side by side (Dual Stack). Only a couple of ISPs (mostly mobile operators in the US) have gone full IPv6 with IPv4 translation, but there aren't any indicators that any UK ISP will do the same. In all liklihood, we'll be going Dual stack with Carrier-Grade NAT CG-NAT) to share the last IPv4 addresses across multiple consumers. IPv4 isn't going anywhere.


To elaborate on this further, IPv6 doesn't contain any kind of encryption, nor is it encrypted by default. Rather, it was designed with encryption in mind so that when encryption is used, it's more efficient than with IPv4.

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Dual stack is what i was thinking of, i just didnt want to explain what it was plus the other options available.

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After what I said, there's this: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...3-1-plans.html

Virgin must be gearing up for IPv6 and it looks as though they're going the DS-lite route :(

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And docsis3.1 this year which bodes well for 500mbit speed upgrade this year and 1gbit next year.

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i doubt we will get an upgrade to those speeds, more like new tiers when they are released.

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What i mean is that the oodles of extra bandwith docsis3.1 will give them will allow make higher tiers available tout suite and put the competition to shame. I think they reached a bit of a limit/bottleneck back in 2012 ish because when everyone else was having their speed doubled i went from 100 to 120 to 150. The only thing they could do to keep everyone hapoy is lower the price of the tier.

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An upstream increase id like to see to 30mb or more.

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yeah, 500/50 would kick ass big time

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I mean from what the report is saying, Virgin is in no rush to roll out 3.1 just yet. I wouldn't expect to see it deployed as anything other than a trial this year.

I wouldn't be too surprised if they upgraded the 350mbit tier to 500mbit this year though.

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Can the Puma 6 handle 500mbit/s without introducing more latency spikes?

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I was under the impression that the latency spikes were caused by the number of channels rather than the amount being downloaded.

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I'm fortunate enough to have both IPv4 and IPv6 and my Windows kit has both addresses listed in ipconfig as does my XBox.
The only difference I noticed is my XBox NAT is now Moderate, whereas before IPv6 it was Strict.
So, do I notice any "real" difference in my day to day experience? Nope. It's been very underwhelming.

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Before UPnP was a thing, it would have been a huge difference - no more port forwarding! However UPnP largely solved that issue and most software/routers/equipment autoconfigure forwarding ports. Those that don't tend to be older and wouldn't support IPv6 anyway.

However, there are some issues this solves - for example, if you've got two Xboxes, on a shared IPv4 over NAT there was no way for you both to be able to host games at the same time, as the games would go through the same port which would only get forwarded to one router. This might not have been a common issue, but it's certainly something I encountered when living with 4 other people who all had Xbox 360's.

Now, in future there's simply not going to be enough IPv4 addresses to go around and they'll be shared - this would mean that if you wanted to host an Xbox game, you'd have to hope that whoever else is sharing your address (Which could be hundreds of people) wasn't trying to do the same at the same time. Nightmare. IPv6 now means that won't happen in future.

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you are not using ipv6 though. All the OS is doing is converting your assigned ipv4 address into the equivalent hexadecimal ipv6 address so the address field is populated. As an example, if I said your forum member number is 1234 but because there are so many users we are now going to use an 8 digit system your new member would be 00001234.

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Hmm, I think I do get IPv6. I can go to v6 only websites for example.?
Either way it’s not as game changer for an old codger like myself :)

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Definitely not a game changer for end users, but you can test if you've got it here: http://ipv6-test.com/

There are very few IPv6 only sites these days, thanks to the fact that multiple sites can be hosted on a single IP address.

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Most users are totally unaware that there are over 65,000 ports at each IP# any one of which can serve web pages.

By default on most browsers port 80 carries http and port 443 caries https

IP:port#

This where a lot of the "dark web" lurks. ;)

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Hmm.

It's not just that you can have sites hosted on multiple ports, but you can use SNI and reverse proxies to again serve multiple sites from the same IP (And port).

As for the "dark web", that's...different.

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Dark web generally refers to sites available only via TOR or I2P, or other anonymous network, and not sites hosted on alternate ports.

Very few sites host themselves on alternate ports, it's not really a sensible idea for a website you want any traffic to for various reasons. Instead, as mentioned, server name indication and reverse proxies are used. This is how I host multiple sites on port 443 at home for example.

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Well it looks like they are routing ALL their IPv6 traffic over Liberty Global, it doesn't look like they are peering directly with anyone for IPv6.

My source for this information:
https://bgp.he.net/AS5089#_peers6