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Arthurgray50@blu 27-06-2017 20:35

Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/...cid=spartandhp

Here's some good news for us:)

Mad Max 27-06-2017 20:52

Re: Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35905306)


Is it though? I only use Sky Sports for the football, is it likely to decrease in payment?

Arthurgray50@blu 27-06-2017 21:10

Re: Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
I think it is brilliant news, trouble is. Will VM change there price structure

OLD BOY 27-06-2017 21:18

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35905314)
I think it is brilliant news, trouble is. Will VM change there price structure

I am sure they will, as long as Sky adjust the costs to Virgin Media accordingly.

OLDGOLD 27-06-2017 23:47

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It's alright if you're only into one sport, such as football. But if you like lots of sports you'll probably be paying even more than at present.

denphone 28-06-2017 06:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35905318)
I am sure they will, as long as Sky adjust the costs to Virgin Media accordingly.

Ifs , buts and maybes is how we stand at the moment OB as whether it becomes cheaper well the proof is in the pudding and many times before one has been left still waiting for the pudding.

mhatter67 28-06-2017 08:26

Re: Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
Love if they drop the greedy HD charge on Sports!

denphone 28-06-2017 08:42

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Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35905353)
Love if they drop the greedy HD charge on Sports!

l doubt it..

japitts 28-06-2017 09:05

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35905306)

I'm still not sure.

For me, the biggie is losing the flexibility of when there's multiple overlapping games of one sport but none of another. Easy to manage when the channels are numbered - I'm sure they have a plan....

alwaysabear 28-06-2017 10:01

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I am unsure how this will effect me, as an avid NFL fan which pack will my sport be in?

denphone 28-06-2017 10:30

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35905370)
I am unsure how this will effect me, as an avid NFL fan which pack will my sport be in?

As its classed as some type of football it might be put in the football pack.

Chad 28-06-2017 11:09

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35905370)
I am unsure how this will effect me, as an avid NFL fan which pack will my sport be in?

I'd guess SKY Sports Arena along with boxing, tennis etc...

Dave42 28-06-2017 13:32

Re: Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35905353)
Love if they drop the greedy HD charge on Sports!

no chance at all

jcm193 28-06-2017 13:37

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35905395)
no chance at all

its does not end there you have to pay for a multi-room subscription if you want UHD

Mad Max 28-06-2017 13:54

Re: Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35905395)
no chance at all


As positive as ever, eh Dave?............:D

alwaysabear 28-06-2017 14:06

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905373)
As its classed as some type of football it might be put in the football pack.



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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35905378)
I'd guess SKY Sports Arena along with boxing, tennis etc...

Thanks. Just have wait and see when the changes are implemented .

Dave42 28-06-2017 14:38

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35905398)
As positive as ever, eh Dave?............:D

sky customers still have sky sports HD charge FACT so it not gonna stop for vm is it

muppetman11 28-06-2017 17:08

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Don't see the big deal , many can get the complete Sky Sports now with very little effort for under what they want to charge for one Sport.

Whilst the entry point to Sport may decrease for those who pay Sky's full subscription charges I'd expect those who want it all to see the complete Sports package increase , possibly approaching £30.

Inactive Digital 28-06-2017 18:29

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These are said to be some of the new logos/names as posted on TV Forum: https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/sky-sports...p-42569/page-6

Paul 29-06-2017 00:00

Re: Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
They certainly put a lot of effort into those logo's.

denphone 29-06-2017 06:48

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35905502)
They certainly put a lot of effort into those logo's.

Yep about 2 minutes l would say.

lonespeaker 29-06-2017 10:44

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905512)
Yep about 2 minutes l would say.

as long as that

they are horrible

OLD BOY 29-06-2017 18:12

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35905407)
sky customers still have sky sports HD charge FACT so it not gonna stop for vm is it

You're talking about the current position, Dave. The pricing will change with the new channel line-up.

We don't know yet whether Sky customers will be charged extra for HD. They may take this opportunity to charge the same as SD but charge more for UHD. After all, times change and HD is now more mainstream.

denphone 29-06-2017 20:11

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35905622)
You're talking about the current position, Dave. The pricing will change with the new channel line-up.

We don't know yet whether Sky customers will be charged extra for HD. They may take this opportunity to charge the same as SD but charge more for UHD. After all, times change and HD is now more mainstream.

l thinking you are hoping OB and somehow l am not sure its going to work out the way you want it too.

japitts 29-06-2017 23:50

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I know it's early days, but for me the devil is in the detail of how scheduling will work. It's hard to argue with the idea of more competitive pricing, not paying for sports you don't want etc... however....

Numbered channels give so much flexibility with scheduling. There's times when football, rugby and cricket all go out on SS1, for example. I've seen rugby on at least 4 of the numbered channels at various times. How about when more than one rugby match is shown, but there's no football on. Yes, rugby is my main thing but I do dip into various other sports at times - football's the only thing I would actually avoid.

I could go on - numbered channels allow for all of this. I'm at a total loss how this can work, in reality, on dedicated channels. Quite often the F1 is simulcasted on SS1 for example, and apart from a few motorsport programs that could easily be squeezed in elsewhere on 1-5, it's not as if F1 alone fills the F1 channel.

Time'll tell, but I remain to be convinced.

Chad 30-06-2017 00:49

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Originally Posted by japitts (Post 35905672)
I know it's early days, but for me the devil is in the detail of how scheduling will work. It's hard to argue with the idea of more competitive pricing, not paying for sports you don't want etc... however....

Numbered channels give so much flexibility with scheduling. There's times when football, rugby and cricket all go out on SS1, for example. I've seen rugby on at least 4 of the numbered channels at various times. How about when more than one rugby match is shown, but there's no football on. Yes, rugby is my main thing but I do dip into various other sports at times - football's the only thing I would actually avoid.

I could go on - numbered channels allow for all of this. I'm at a total loss how this can work, in reality, on dedicated channels. Quite often the F1 is simulcasted on SS1 for example, and apart from a few motorsport programs that could easily be squeezed in elsewhere on 1-5, it's not as if F1 alone fills the F1 channel.

Time'll tell, but I remain to be convinced.

SKY Sports Mix will continue to operate and could be used as an overflow channel for clashing fixtures. I suspect they will also offer a red button service for each dedicated channel.

japitts 30-06-2017 11:10

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35905674)
SKY Sports Mix will continue to operate and could be used as an overflow channel for clashing fixtures. I suspect they will also offer a red button service for each dedicated channel.

Yes, I get that, but (and this is not shooting the messenger, it's shooting the message)...

Sky Sports Mix is a FTA channel, supposedly for tempting non-subscribers with selected stuff.

Red-button is great for when there's genuine overflow, it's not a substitute for putting particular games/matches/events on a proper HD-broadcast channel. Currently numbered channels mean that 6 live events can be "broadcast" simultaneously plus F1.

That doesn't seem to be the case anymore - it also occurred to me last night about how European rugby weekends will be handled, I think the current BT/Sky share certainly has some time to run yet. It's not uncommon for those to spill across 2 Sky channels at the same time.

muppetman11 30-06-2017 11:59

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Both Sky and Virgin are capable of making HD streams available behind the red button and recordable , Sky do it with UHD already.

OLD BOY 30-06-2017 12:23

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905639)
l thinking you are hoping OB and somehow l am not sure its going to work out the way you want it too.

I'm not saying whether they will or won't keep charging for HD, I was just pointing out that tbings could change.

What is almost certain is that there will be an additional charge slapped on for UHD.

muppetman11 30-06-2017 13:06

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35905714)
I'm not saying whether they will or won't keep charging for HD, I was just pointing out that tbings could change.

What is almost certain is that there will be an additional charge slapped on for UHD.

UHD is included with Sky Q Multiscreen

Raider999 30-06-2017 18:13

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35905721)
UHD is included with Sky Q Multiscreen

It is. Exactly what earlier post said. You have to have multi screen sub to get UHD wether you want it or not (at a cost).

I am also sure that charge for sports HD will remain as not enough people complain about it.

As for having dedicated sports channels for certain sports - rugby union is currently Spread over SS1 to SS5, football is often on other channels as well as SS1 (when concurrent matches are shown such as internationals).

Other sports hop from 1 channel to another.

I can see savupings for people who only want 1 sport, apart from that the cost is likely to rise.

All in all I cannot see how it will work.

muppetman11 30-06-2017 18:14

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35905753)
It is. Exactly what earlier post said. You have to have multi screen sub to get UHD wether you want it or not (at a cost).

I am also sure that charge for sports HD will remain as not enough people complain about it.

As for having dedicated sports channels for certain sports - rugby union is currently Spread over SS1 to SS5, football is often on other channels as well as SS1 (when concurrent matches are shown such as internationals).

Other sports hop from 1 channel to another.

I can see savupings for people who only want 1 sport, apart from that the cost is likely to rise.

All in all I cannot see how it will work.

Completely agree with that. Not good if you watch multiple Sports.

Raider999 30-06-2017 18:15

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35905707)
Both Sky and Virgin are capable of making HD streams available behind the red button and recordable , Sky do it with UHD already.


Sky do this by setting up a sub menu behind the programme where you can select the game you want to record (when they can vibe bothered)

I have not seen similar on Virgin - how do they cope with this?

Paul 30-06-2017 18:27

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35905753)
I can see savings for people who only want 1 sport, apart from that the cost is likely to rise.

Good for our hosehold then, football is all we watch.

Mr K 30-06-2017 18:49

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Sky wouldn't be doing this unless they thought it was going to make them more money. It might from me, not interested in football, but might subscribe to a cricket channel.

alwaysabear 30-06-2017 21:35

Re: Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
If I can I will bin Sky for football and watch American football at a cheaper cost. I will still have BT sport for football.

OLD BOY 01-07-2017 01:23

Re: Sky changing its Sports Channel
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905762)
Sky wouldn't be doing this unless they thought it was going to make them more money. It might from me, not interested in football, but might subscribe to a cricket channel.

Yes, but there are ways other than price increases to maximise profits! Think about it...


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