Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3545041.html

I am certain that members will argue about this. But the ban at Bank in London for traffic ban in favour of Cyclist. Is totally wrong and the only people that will make anything out of this is the City of London in fines.

I look at it this way. I cycle. BUT, l have seen stupid cyclist on the road, going through red lights. No proper gear - its endless.

And cyclists want to take over the road - totally senseless.

Bank, in London is one of the busiest junctions in London. And l should know l have driven through it.

And now all that will use it are Cyclist and Buses. Taxis cannot use it.

Cyclist cannot have it both ways. If you abide by the law, then there would less accidents on the road.

Don't cycle between vehicles, if they are pulling out. Don't go through red lights. Don't cycle on the footpath etc etc

I know of a nasty accident in West London a couple of years ago. The female cyclist went between railings, and a lorry turning left. The cyclist was killed, as the lorry driver didn't see the cyclist.

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Councils (like London) are ruled by members of the anti car brigade.

This is just one of many examples (Nottingham is classic for this).
They spent a ton of money screwing up a perectly good dual carridgeway to make a "cycleway". You will be lucky to actually spot any cyclists on it, total waste of money, and now you get rush hour jams, as what used to be two lanes is now one.

Re: Totally against vehicle ban in London
 

I support the vehicle ban. I think there are plenty more places for vehicle restrictions too.

Re: Totally against vehicle ban in London
 

l don't.:td:

Re: Totally against vehicle ban in London
 

its always you init :)

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It's all to comply with EU pollution targets. Fail to comply and you get fines, and by you I mean of course Joe Public.

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This is a unique junction so I would be careful from drawing too many inferences from it. It is a very busy and complicated junction in the heart of the city, there are cars coming form multiple directions and cyclists alongside them. The problem is anyone who is unfamiliar with the layout can suddenly do something unexpected and, again, it's very busy.

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All of which begs the question where's the traffic going to go now? Nobody in their right mind drives on C. London for fun so the traffic, pollution and inevitable accidents will just be moved somewhere else.

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Ditto many other cities, they are just moving it all elsewhere, and away from the fixed pollution monitoring stations.

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I think down Lower Thames St, Old Street, London Wall etc. Although they wouldn't mind too much if they use the surrounding roads as this specific ban is designed to calm this specific junction down. The other roads aren't nearly as dangerous.

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I don't believe that to be so. As Damien has said, this is a complicated junction; routing it through alternatives with different road configurations is not moving the problem, it's a sensible re-distribution whilst a much broader re-think takes place.

Traffic volume saturation has made central London a death trap. More change will follow. Better to consider what changes must take place by necessity.

There's always a voice of reason amongst the 12 Angry Men :)

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

if it's dangerous to cyclists ban them not every one else :shrug:

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

...and ban all the pedestrians :rolleyes:

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

they aren't important they aren't generating tax by walking, you need to look at the bigger tax revenue picture if it's not generating tax it's just a burden or blight on society .;)

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

It's a vicious cycle in more ways than one.

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

just had to post this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...OMERSAULT.html


there's the passing side and there's the suicide

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Idiots come on 4 wheels as well as 2. As the biking variety in particular have equipped themselves with cams in order to highlight everyone else's misdeeds on the roads, it should come as no surprise that we're going to see more of their own evidence used against them. The same will of course happen to car drivers as dashcams become more prevalent.

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Both vehicles at fault here. Van has no 'authority' to offer car safe passage by flashing lights; car driver presumes safe to turn right and proceeds without due care and attention. Cyclist has injured back, leg, head, both wrists, pelvis and big toe: a nice insurance payout and all on cam. Nice :D

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

he can spend it on a pack of straws and some soup

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Treat himself and the kids to fancy new bikes more like. The more cyclists the merrier and taking a lead from President Trump we're gonna have more bikes and we're gonna make car drivers pay for them.

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

... and one day the 2 wheeled moron will come up against someone who, just like him, has no insurance...

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

taking no responsibility for their actions is a badge of honor for them .

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

What goes around eventually comes around and an uninsured cyclist who can't gets seriously injured but can't claim from someone else (including another cyclist) is in for a very bad time indeed. Then of course there'll be those whose stupidity sadly gets them killed.

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Tiresome pair of nancy boys :p:

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

The Highway Code is clear that you use flashes of headlights as an alternative to sounding your horn (when illegal - at night, or noise or other factor makes it a better option). Essentially the only "official" meaning of flashing your lights is "I am here".

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

what's the sign for ouch i'm down here :)

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Yep, a rule motorists misunderstand and abuse every day effectively encouraging each other to drive badly whilst blaming others for their incompetence :dozey:

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Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

[QUOTE=Kursk;35900344]Yep, a rule motorists misunderstand and abuse every day effectively encouraging each other to drive badly whilst blaming others for their incompetence :dozey:


well at least they have lights unlike most cyclists

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

I watch cyclists in Glasgow, they go through red lights, curve in and out of traffic and jump from the road to the pavement and back, , they are a menace. Sorry but I would ban them all and I am not a driver but a passenger and they frighten me

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

that's national not just local

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

They think the rules of the road don't apply to them and that is the biggest problem.

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Well, I don't normally do generalisations but seeing as you lot started it: you're all a bunch of effeminate pansies :D

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

A portion of cyclists are idiots
A portion of motorcyclists are idiots
A portion of car drivers,coach drivers & lorry drivers are idiots

Each treating the other road users with a lack of respect and thinking that they own the roads.


I still keep coming back and asking why can you ride a pushbike on the road without having to do any formal training whatsoever? Hell even a 16yr old has to do a CBT for a 50cc ped. Which at least teaches, road positioning, life savers, shoulder checks etc.

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Groundhog Day.

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What do you need training for when the government let's you hire a bike no matter how inexperienced, how inebriated or how well you know the roads in a global metropolis and will enable you by ripping up half the cities roads that incidentally no local cyclists bother with and cause untold congestion and pollution in the process

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Name calling they always say is the resort of those who are losing the argument because their argument is poor and baseless and does not stand up to scrutiny to start with.;)

---------- Post added at 05:39 ---------- Previous post was at 05:38 ----------

Sadly you have got it in one.

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Thanks for your thoughts Confucius :sleep:.

Did you not notice that the 'name calling' was taken in the right spirit by those at whom it was directed? This is because their perception is different to yours. They know when an argument has brought itself to conclusion on mutually acceptable terms and closed with a little light-hearted banter.

Continue to follow our exploits and learn :).

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Your right ;)

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

You can only learn if one has the right tutor.;)

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

And you're wrong, in both your generalisation and your grammar ;)

You can take a horse to water but you cannot make him drink :p:.

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

One must do it themselves before one teaches others the same trick.:p:

Re: Car free Bank junction praised by cyclists... but drivers brazenly flout ban
 

Please keep your instructions on self-abuse to yourself thank you :D