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Hugh	05-05-2017 09:58

Local Elections - 2017

Labour's latest slogan - "We're not doing as badly as we thought we would"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...=facebook-post

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Ms Mansell described the narrow loss as "incredible", considering six of the nine constituencies that make up the West of England region are Conservative....

...Ms Mansell urged voters to back Labour candidates in the General Election.

"We have some great candidates," she said, adding that she was now returning to work for the NHS. "I would like to wish them the best of luck in the campaign."

And the Labour party lost less badly than had been expected in Wales, a key area for the Conservatives' plan to take seats in next month's election.

Or as it's put in another story in the same paper

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7718676.html

Quote:

Labour's hopes of preventing a Tory landslide in next month's general election have suffered a demoralising blow after a night of losses in local elections.

Results are still coming in across the country but Jeremy Corbyn's party had lost at least 125 council seats by 9am.

The Conservatives won the West of England metro-mayor contest and gained control of five councils on an encouraging night for the Prime Minister.

Early signs were that they had profited as the Ukip vote collapsed, with Paul Nuttall's party failing to hold a single seat as the early counts came back.

Sirius

05-05-2017 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35897606)

Labour's latest slogan - "We're not doing as badly as we thought we would"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...=facebook-post

I am looking forward to the beating there going to get in the General Election :)

papa smurf

05-05-2017 10:04

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come on we can pull it back go team labour :cleader:

Osem	05-05-2017 10:29

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Corbyn's cronies must be running around like headless chickens searching for excuses we haven't heard from them oh so many times before.

v0id	05-05-2017 11:33

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Honesty I'll be happy if Labour win back all the seats the SNP took in the last election.

Hopefully it would shut up that Sturgeon once and for all

heero_yuy

05-05-2017 11:45

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Tory's are also on for a few north of the boarder, together they'll silence the fishwife for a while.

Osem	05-05-2017 12:06

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When's Corbyn going to appear and tell us how well they've done in the circumstances and these results reaffirm the public's faith in his leadership? :D

Taf	05-05-2017 12:28

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As usual I'm finding it impossible to see the actual number of votes for each local candidate. It's like they have done the hard bit (getting elected) now we can all sod off....

nomadking

05-05-2017 12:33

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35897643)

As usual I'm finding it impossible to see the actual number of votes for each local candidate. It's like they have done the hard bit (getting elected) now we can all sod off....

Local press websites are the best bet. There are over 4,800 seats being contested so it's not a simple matter.

Kursk

05-05-2017 12:52

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Labour need to put Diane Abbott forward urgently to provide a review of the figures. They need that special spin to reinvigorate Labour before the real test next month. A car crash awaits....

Osem	05-05-2017 13:03

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35897645)

Labour need to put Diane Abbott forward urgently to provide a review of the figures. They need that special spin to reinvigorate Labour before the real test next month. A car crash awaits....

I've just been listening to her on BBC2, she's still not conceding that this has anything to do with Corbyn's 'leadership' even though he's been out there campaigning more than ever before and this is the result. :D

Is it just me of does she sound more like that renowned washing machine salesman Keith Vaz every day? :shrug:

Kursk

05-05-2017 13:11

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35897646)

I've just been listening to her on BBC2

Presumably collecting yet another taxpayers' fee. There are some figures she understands very well indeed.

adzii_nufc

05-05-2017 13:14

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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35897627)

Honesty I'll be happy if Labour win back all the seats the SNP took in the last election.

Hopefully it would shut up that Sturgeon once and for all

I'd actually have liked that too even though that's not the party where my vote's going.

Seems like the UKIP momentum they had in the last GE has literally just died.

Chris

05-05-2017 13:19

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Glasgow Shettleston has just elected a Tory to the city council. :rofl:

Osem	05-05-2017 13:29

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35897649)

I'd actually have liked that too even though that's not the party where my vote's going.

Seems like the UKIP momentum they had in the last GE has literally just died.

It was inevitable as many UKIP voters will have realised that the only way to get what they want now is to vote Tory rather than risk splitting the pro-Brexit vote and letting other parties in. This process has started now in the local elections and I expect it to continue. It'll be interesting to see how UKIP fares next time around. Brexit was always going to be the primary reason a lot of people voted for UKIP in the first place.

Mr K	05-05-2017 13:30

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35897649)

I'd actually have liked that too even though that's not the party where my vote's going.

Seems like the UKIP momentum they had in the last GE has literally just died.

The swivel eyed loon kippers have returned to their natural home. They won't look out of place ;)

Mick	05-05-2017 13:57

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Just seen this:

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Dianne Abbott has promised us the following four new Bank Holidays if Labour get in, in her blustering ways, she says, the dates are....um, (long pause)... the dates are... ;

30th February
49th May
73rd August
62nd October

But for goodness sake, don't ask me how much it's going to cost....

:rofl:

Hugh	05-05-2017 14:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35897656)

The swivel eyed loon kippers have returned to their natural home. They won't look out of place ;)

There's always room for you.... :)

---------- Post added at 14:20 ---------- Previous post was at 14:08 ----------

It now looks like Labour's only chance of winning the general election is if Diane Abbott can count the votes. :D (from Politicshome)

Hugh	05-05-2017 14:27

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It's not been a complete disaster for UKIP... ;)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...8&d=1493990804

Sirius

05-05-2017 14:59

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35897658)

Just seen this:

:rofl:

:clap:

nomadking

05-05-2017 15:17

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In her latest shambolic performance, Mrs Abbott floundered desperately after being asked what the party's net losses were so far in local elections.'At the time of us doing this interview, I think the net losses are about 50,' she said.
The miffed ITV journalist replied: 'They are actually 125 net losses so far.'
But Ms Abbott said: 'Well the last time I looked we had net losses of 100 but obviously this is a moving picture.'

So as far as she knew it was 100, but she still said 50.:confused: If at the last time she knew it was 50 and it had changed since then, fair enough, but to lie was ridiculous.

Jimmy-J

05-05-2017 15:44

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35897677)

So as far as she knew it was 100, but she still said 50.:confused: If at the last time she knew it was 50 and it had changed since then, fair enough, but to lie was ridiculous.

Isn't that what the vast majority of politicians are?

Taf	05-05-2017 15:44

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35897677)

So as far as she knew it was 100, but she still said 50.:confused: If at the last time she knew it was 50 and it had changed since then, fair enough, but to lie was ridiculous.

I remember when she used to a regular on the This Week show with Andrew Neil. Every time she was asked a question, and started to panic and lie, her eyes would shut. What a tell! She could never play Poker.... :dunce:

TheDaddy

05-05-2017 17:20

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35897666)

It's not been a complete disaster for UKIP... ;)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...8&d=1493990804

What's a mebyon kernow? Whatever it is its more popular than the kippers.

Ramrod

05-05-2017 17:20

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Voters threatened with deselection after failing to support Jeremy Corbyn

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Supporters of Jeremy Corbyn have blamed the ‘biased mainstream electorate’ for local election losses.

Pledging a three-line whip to bring the voters into line, members of the Momentum group said that the British people had to recognise Corbyn’s huge mandate and stop trying to undermine him by voting for other people.

Internal sources within the Labour Party are understood to be confused why saying “People who don’t like Corbyn should f**k off and join the Tories” should have resulted in them doing precisely that.

heero_yuy

05-05-2017 17:28

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35897694)

What's a mebyon kernow? Whatever it is its more popular than the kippers.

Cornwall Independence?

nomadking

05-05-2017 17:35

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35897698)

Cornwall Independence?

Didn't realise that Cornwall was that economically well-off to be anything but dependent on England.

papa smurf

05-05-2017 17:36

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35897699)

Didn't realise that Cornwall was that economically well-off to be anything but dependent on England.

seen the price of a pastie

heero_yuy

05-05-2017 17:49

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35897699)

Didn't realise that Cornwall was that economically well-off to be anything but dependent on England.

Lithium?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33704332

denphone

05-05-2017 18:27

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35897700)

seen the price of a pastie

Good food costs money..:):drool:

pip08456

05-05-2017 18:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35897694)

What's a mebyon kernow? Whatever it is its more popular than the kippers.

https://www.mebyonkernow.org/

Ramrod

05-05-2017 19:24

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35897710)

https://www.mebyonkernow.org/

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Our policies are founded on three core values:

Prosperity for all
Social justice
Environmental protection

Looking at their first two 'core values'. I have to say: 'Oh dear, never mind' :D

Julian

05-05-2017 19:29

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They also seem to speak another language.

I can't understand much of what they say.

Mick	05-05-2017 19:47

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Corbyn up in Manchester celebrating Andy Burnham, Mayoral win however, no sight of Andy Burnham himself.

pip08456

05-05-2017 21:37

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I'm surprised Corbyn is anywhere considering the the results. I thought he'd be hiding in a bunker somewhere.

Looks good for May in June though.

Osem	05-05-2017 21:59

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35897725)

I'm surprised Corbyn is anywhere considering the the results. I thought he'd be hiding in a bunker somewhere.

Looks good for May in June though.

He only listens to people who tell him what he wants to hear and their numbers are dwindling.

pip08456

05-05-2017 22:05

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After the trouncing it looks like Labour will get next month I wonder how long he'll be able to survive.

Arthurgray50@blu

05-05-2017 22:23

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I have voted Labour all my life. BUT, will not in the GE. Corbyn was told in our local papers that he is a joke.

I strongly believe that Labour will get thrash in the GE. BUT, he wont quit. There will just be a no confidence vote an the Momentum will back him to the hilt.

We need a new leader ASAP

adzii_nufc

05-05-2017 22:25

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35897730)

I have voted Labour all my life. BUT, will not in the GE. Corbyn was told in our local papers that he is a joke.

I strongly believe that Labour will get thrash in the GE. BUT, he wont quit. There will just be a no confidence vote an the Momentum will back him to the hilt.

We need a new leader ASAP

Let the guy steer the ship that's already half sunk.

pip08456

05-05-2017 22:37

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35897730)

Even Momentum won't be able to save him. There's always one thing you can guarantee politicians will do and that is look after themselves first.

Bottom line, the big guns of the Labour party will distance themselves and form a new party leaving Corbyn and the loony left Momentum on their own.

Either that or Corbyn will be gone along with Momentum.

Osem	05-05-2017 22:41

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Momentum will shortly go the same way as Militant Tendency and for the same reasons.

1andrew1

05-05-2017 23:13

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35897718)

Corbyn up in Manchester celebrating Andy Burnham, Mayoral win however, no sight of Andy Burnham himself.

Classic! Burnham's celebrating but understandably not with Corbyn. http://www.itv.com/news/2017-05-05/n...o-celebrating/

Paul	06-05-2017 02:05

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Back to the topic, the UKIP vote around here took a nosedive, and the Tory vote rose by almost the same amount - not hard to figure out what happened there.

In our local result, the swing was nothing short of amazing.

In 2013, the Lib Dems won with 45% of the vote, the Tory candidate got just 8%, UKIP 13%, and Labour 31%.

This time the Tories won with 39%, Lib Dems 2nd with 28%, and UKIP got 7%, Labour dropped to 23%.

At one point in the (not so distant) past, this was a Labout stronghold.

pip08456

06-05-2017 02:22

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As has been said many times, UKIP's job is done. We had the referendum and that was their main thrust. That their votes have now gone to the Tories is no surprise as that is the party committed to pushing it through.

Nigel got out at the right time.

Paul	06-05-2017 02:26

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More bad new for Labour not too far from me as well, in the Ashfield district.

They were virtually wiped off the map by a local Ashfield Independents Party (who took 5 seats off them).

pip08456

06-05-2017 02:30

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35897738)

More bad new for Labour not too far from me as well, in the Ashfield district.

They were virtually wiped off the map by a local Ashfield Independents Party (who took 5 seats off them).

Again, as has been said many times Labour is unelectable with Corbyn at the helm.

Osem	06-05-2017 09:59

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35897740)

Again, as has been said many times Labour is unelectable with Corbyn at the helm.

... but they've been doing so well since he brought his inspirational leadership and teambuilding skills to bear on the party...

:D

pip08456

06-05-2017 10:11

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The candidates seem to think otherwise.

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Many Labour candidates said they were planning to run local campaigns without a focus on Corbyn, claiming he had been toxic on the doorstep. Stephen Kinnock, who is contesting the seat of Aberavon, said the results amounted to a “disastrous picture” and Corbyn’s leadership had come up as an issue on the doorstep.

Source

Osem	06-05-2017 10:16

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35897756)

The candidates seem to think otherwise.

Source

No it's not true!!!

It's just that the electorate doesn't realise it yet... :rofl:

pip08456

06-05-2017 10:29

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35897757)

No it's not true!!!

It's just that the electorate doesn't realise it yet... :rofl:

You been listenining to Momentum????:D:D:D

Osem	06-05-2017 11:29

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35897758)

You been listenining to Momentum????:D:D:D

I have the force... :D

pip08456

06-05-2017 12:10

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From the same rag which is undeniable.

Link

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“Genuine Labour supporters said we are not voting for you while you have Jeremy Corbyn as leader.”

I wonder where the problem is????

heero_yuy

06-05-2017 12:29

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Pah! Who needs Labour voters:

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The Communist party will not field candidates in the general election for first time in almost a century after suggesting Jeremy Corbyn will help achieve its "revolutionary" aims.

The party's general secretary said communists would provide support on the ground for Mr Corbyn, who is a long-term supporter of the movement and has previously called Fidel Castro "heroic".

Source

Osem	06-05-2017 12:37

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35897761)

Pah! Who needs Labour voters:

Source

:rofl:

That news will just force even more moderate Labour voters who're on the verge of giving up on their party do so.

---------- Post added at 12:37 ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35897760)

From the same rag which is undeniable.

Link

I wonder where the problem is????

Yeah but it's not at all clear is it? :confused:

:D

RizzyKing

06-05-2017 13:18

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With the denial currently running rampant within labour will Corbyn even go after losing the election or will he claim more time is needed for his message to permeate and bring the people onto his side, i think he'll ride labour all the way into the ground till there's little left. What's most disturbing is the lib dems could become the official opposition what a sorry state of affairs that would be.

Ramrod

06-05-2017 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35897760)

From the same rag which is undeniable.

Link

I wonder where the problem is????

Hard to tell. Could be anything. We need more data :D

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