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Doctor_YOU 22-04-2017 21:07

TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
As title..


So I've had both, and for a few weeks I had both systems at the same time. Let me tell you there is nothing in it, nothing at all. Where one wins in one area another wins in another area.

Box speed is the same, responsiveness is the same, Sky has a bit more content (sky Atlantic) But Virgin has a bit more speed (300Mb/s)

If you can still get the Limited edition Full house with movies from VM that comes with 200mb/s fibre and a V6 plus phone then go for it. Add a second V6 for under a tenner a month, Sky cant match it!

OLD BOY 22-04-2017 22:55

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Yes, I gather there's not a lot in it, but I've not had any personal experience of Sky Q to date.

I am certainly extremely satisfied with the V6, which works very well for me.

Raider999 23-04-2017 14:18

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
SkyQ will only let you have 1 recording box (this means if that box crashes all recordings fail until rebooted. (V6 wins)

SkyQ cannot record 12 programmes at once as V6 does,including 2nd box (V6 wins)

SkyQ has 2 Tb disk (SkyQ wins)

SkyQ has UHD channels (SkyQ wins)

SkyQ has Sky Atlantic (SkyQ wins)

Neither box has scart output - major disappointment!

So it depends on what is most important to you personally as to which suits you best.

nialli 23-04-2017 15:06

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35895888)
SkyQ will only let you have 1 recording box (this means if that box crashes all recordings fail until rebooted. (V6 wins)

SkyQ cannot record 12 programmes at once as V6 does,including 2nd box (V6 wins)

SkyQ has 2 Tb disk (SkyQ wins)

If you have a second V6, then you have 2Tb of disk as you can play recordings from both boxes on either TV.

Raider999 23-04-2017 15:28

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35895898)
If you have a second V6, then you have 2Tb of disk as you can play recordings from both boxes on either TV.


Agreed, that would then be a draw - however with V6 you would have to pay an extra monthly fee so possibly a SkyQ win?

denphone 23-04-2017 15:31

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
As a revered venerable forum member would say they both are very good with their good points and their bad points.:)

Doctor_YOU 23-04-2017 16:40

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Overall I'm thinking the TiVo V6 wins. When Virgin do start doing UHD all V6's in your house will be able to show UHD. On SkyQ only the SkyQ 2tb is capable of showing UHD content. If you have SkyQ 1tb you cannot get UHD content, the SkyQ minis do not show UHD content.

The SkyQ minis rely 100% on a wifi or Ethernet connect. If your house is not wired in every room for Ethernet then you're relying on wifi to send the picture, sound to your SkyQ mini, and when you have 2 minis running on a Dolby enabled HD channel the things can get pretty choppy.

The V6 is what everyone thought the TiVo would be, as long as VM keep it running fast and keep it updated then it's going to be a huge win for them. UHD won't lose them any customers, football and formula 1 in UHD is not that different from HD. If the leap from HD to UHD matched the leap from SD to HD then yeah UHD would be a strong selling point, but it just isn't.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35895904)
Agreed, that would then be a draw - however with V6 you would have to pay an extra monthly fee so possibly a SkyQ win?


SkyQ now has a multi room fee of £12 a month if you want a mini, the price for a second V6 is around £7. But that's easily negotiated downwards with some polite and friendly chat to customer services.

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An just to add, I'm currently enjoying Arsenal V ManCity in HD iNthe FA Cup at no extra charge.

Don't get me wrong though, the original TiVo was a useless piece of crap in my opinion. It performed like a 10 year old PC does running today's software, the only thing the V6 TiVo has in common with the original TiVo is the name.

It's biggest issue may well be that a lot of people's experience of TiVo in the UK is Virginmedias original TiVo. Hence most people seem to think TiVo as a brand or as software is old, slow, clunky. I'm not sure some understand it's was the hardware that was crap!

heavyside 23-04-2017 17:02

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
I think a much more interesting comparison will come in 2018 when Sky offer their Q service over broadband.

Doctor_YOU 23-04-2017 19:07

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35895922)
I think a much more interesting comparison will come in 2018 when Sky offer their Q service over broadband.

Why will it be more interesting?

Hugh 23-04-2017 20:57

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor_YOU (Post 35895938)
Why will it be more interesting?

People won't need a dish.

Doctor_YOU 23-04-2017 22:38

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35895963)
People won't need a dish.


Oh, ermmmm ok.:confused: that will be very interesting...

OLD BOY 24-04-2017 09:03

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35895888)
SkyQ will only let you have 1 recording box (this means if that box crashes all recordings fail until rebooted. (V6 wins)

SkyQ cannot record 12 programmes at once as V6 does,including 2nd box (V6 wins)

SkyQ has 2 Tb disk (SkyQ wins)

SkyQ has UHD channels (SkyQ wins)

SkyQ has Sky Atlantic (SkyQ wins)

Neither box has scart output - major disappointment!

So it depends on what is most important to you personally as to which suits you best.

Given that your points about UHD and Sky Atlantic are content related issues and nothing to do with the capability of the V6, and given that two V6s together give you 2 TB, then in your assessment, the V6 wins hands down.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35895922)
I think a much more interesting comparison will come in 2018 when Sky offer their Q service over broadband.

Ah, so Sky are running behind Virgin for a change!

cje85 24-04-2017 10:21

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor_YOU (Post 35895910)
The SkyQ minis rely 100% on a wifi or Ethernet connect. If your house is not wired in every room for Ethernet then you're relying on wifi to send the picture, sound to your SkyQ mini, and when you have 2 minis running on a Dolby enabled HD channel the things can get pretty choppy.

They also have built in powerline networking. I tried disabling WiFi and Ethernet so they had to fall back to powerline and it continued to work fine, even on HD.

muppetman11 24-04-2017 11:22

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
I honestly have no idea about the V6 as I've never owned or even used one so can't comment , for our house the Sky Q is an excellent set top box and I look forward to its future innovations.

denphone 24-04-2017 12:29

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35896024)
I honestly have no idea about the V6 as I've never owned or even used one so can't comment , for our house the Sky Q is an excellent set top box and I look forward to its future innovations.

Each to their own choices as they say.:)

muppetman11 24-04-2017 12:55

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35896030)
Each to their own choices as they say.:)

That wasn't me knocking the VM system Den it's just I've always found Sky's retention department accommodating hence me still using the Sky hardware.

denphone 24-04-2017 13:05

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35896033)
That wasn't me knocking the VM system Den it's just I've always found Sky's retention department accommodating hence me still using the Sky hardware.

Yes its about getting the right deal especially when there is so much competition out there as one would be foolish if they did not barter for a good deal for their household.

Raider999 24-04-2017 21:38

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35896001)
Given that your points about UHD and Sky Atlantic are content related issues and nothing to do with the capability of the V6, and given that two V6s together give you 2 TB, then in your assessment, the V6 wins hands down.

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Ah, so Sky are running behind Virgin for a change!

Not sure how you work that out.

Doesn't matter how the to service arrives it is what it gives you at what cost that counts.

Currently, v6 has no UHD sports programs so this counts against it, other things balance this to some extent - hence my verdict that they are about equal at present.

However, when virgin sorts out UHD sports from sky & BT it will be ahead.

albertsteptoe 25-04-2017 11:08

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
I have both Sky Q and V6, i prefer Sky's interface much more fluid than V6, also like people have said Sky has ultra HD in Movies and Sport, to be honest i have had Sky Q a month after it came out and i will be getting rid of it when my contact runs out in December,i watched a game on BT Sport on V6 last week so only HD to be honest when i turned my TV into HDR+ mode it looked as good to me as quality of Sky's Ultra HD, also you can still copy recordings with V6 if you have older tivo cant do that with Sky.

Raider999 25-04-2017 19:42

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
I can watch a recording on box b through box a with my 2 V6 boxes.

If I had a TiVo 500gb would I be able to watch any v6 recording on the TiVo 500?

Has TiVo 500 got rgb scart output or only composite?

spiderplant 25-04-2017 21:11

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35896296)
If I had a TiVo 500gb would I be able to watch any v6 recording on the TiVo 500?

Yes, as long as the Tivo 500 is connected by Ethernet to your Hub, and the recordings aren't from the channels that don't allow MRS (At The Races, RTE1 and RTE2).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35896296)
Has TiVo 500 got rgb scart output or only composite?

It's RGB

Raider999 25-04-2017 21:26

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Spider plant, thanks for the prompt replies.

Mad Max 26-04-2017 00:12

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35896200)
I have both Sky Q and V6, i prefer Sky's interface much more fluid than V6, also like people have said Sky has ultra HD in Movies and Sport, to be honest i have had Sky Q a month after it came out and i will be getting rid of it when my contact runs out in December,i watched a game on BT Sport on V6 last week so only HD to be honest when i turned my TV into HDR+ mode it looked as good to me as quality of Sky's Ultra HD, also you can still copy recordings with V6 if you have older tivo cant do that with Sky.


You have both Sky and Virgin...:shocked: I don't know your personal circumstances, as in, you may be housebound or unwell, and unable to get out of the house, otherwise i'd think that was a bit of overkill!

albertsteptoe 26-04-2017 09:07

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35896318)
You have both Sky and Virgin...:shocked: I don't know your personal circumstances, as in, you may be housebound or unwell, and unable to get out of the house, otherwise i'd think that was a bit of overkill!

I got Sky Q, because my Tivo was ruining so slow, plus i love Sky Atlantic something Virgin will never get i think, but like i said Sky will be going in December when contract ends.

OLD BOY 26-04-2017 10:38

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35896119)
Not sure how you work that out.

Doesn't matter how the to service arrives it is what it gives you at what cost that counts.

Currently, v6 has no UHD sports programs so this counts against it, other things balance this to some extent - hence my verdict that they are about equal at present.

However, when virgin sorts out UHD sports from sky & BT it will be ahead.

You misunderstand me, Raider. You were comparing the Sky Q box with the V6. I was merely pointing out that the lack of certain content was not down to the box. That is down to the service provided by Virgin.

The box is quite capable of receiving UHD content, and does so already through Netflix.

Mad Max 26-04-2017 23:49

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35896336)
You misunderstand me, Raider. You were comparing the Sky Q box with the V6. I was merely pointing out that the lack of certain content was not down to the box. That is down to the service provided by Virgin.

The box is quite capable of receiving UHD content, and does so already through Netflix.

You can already get Netflix in UHD without the V6..

johnathome 27-04-2017 01:58

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35896326)
I got Sky Q, because my Tivo was ruining so slow, plus i love Sky Atlantic something Virgin will never get i think, but like i said Sky will be going in December when contract ends.

You must have missed the comments in the other thread, we're putting Vince up for the job of content acquisition at VM.

Vince: We want Sky Atlantic and Fox News

Sky: That'll be £1m a week

Vince: We'll pay it

Jobs a good 'un

:)

OLD BOY 27-04-2017 07:49

Re: TiVo V6 compared to SkyQ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35896455)
You can already get Netflix in UHD without the V6..

I know, Max, but that wasn't my point, which was that the V6 is demonstrably able to give you UHD.


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