Stockholm lorry attack
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39531108

Another religious nutter in all probability. Sounds like it could have been a hell of a lot worse though so maybe the Swedes can at least be thankful for that.

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Watch Donald Trump say he was right about Sweden because of this :(

EDIT: Looks like that exact point has already started on social media.

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Breaking: Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven says everything indicates this is "a terror attack"
http://news.sky.com/story/live-two-d...kholm-10828648

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ration-sweden/


oh look whats happening in Sweden:shocked::shocked::shocked:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-crowds-sweden

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The "religion of peace" strikes again.

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and lets not forget there is no problem in Sweden

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Best start getting used to it, attacks of this type and worse are only going to increase.

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He was right.

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Bears repeating

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Do we know the religion of the attacker yet or even his name?

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That didn't stop people stating otherwise for the Canadian shooting...

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Has anyone here mentioned a specific religion? ;)

It is really surprising that, in the circumstances we face, attacks like this are initially assumed to be the result of religious nutters? We make assumptions on things based on our experience every day of our lives and there's nothing wrong with that as long as, having done so, we accept the FACTS when they're known and don't misrepresent them.

If it turns out this guy was just a drunk or psychopath with no such agenda it'll be an example of some initial assumptions being wrong but statistically, given proven experience across Europe, it's very likely that this is another example of the same thing sadly.

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don't want to upset the libtards by doing that do we

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Indeed some always like to imply but my motto is not to rush to conclusions as l like to get the facts before one forms a view on things.

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Oh dear more name calling if one disagrees with somebody else...

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who have i disagreed with ? on this forum :shrug:

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Who said it was implied it was on this forum? as my answer was a answer based on well if you don't agree with a certain group who have different opinions to yours lets name call them.

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The father-of-four was arrested on suspicion of 'terrorist crimes through murder', Swedish prosecutors said on Saturday. Police have said he is 'likely' to be the driver.
The man, believed to be from Uzbekistan, was wearing a balaclava, with broken glass on his clothes. He reportedly confessed to being involved in the atrocity.

lots of photo's in this


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Facts are only that until they're disproved by new facts, as many a convicted criminal cleared on appeal years later will testify. ;)

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Stockholm attack: Arrested man was lorry driver, police say

The man, who was arrested in the north of the city, has not been named, but Swedish media say he is from Uzbekistan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39536174

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It's sad that people can't have discussions on a forum about a terrible event without resort to baiting or name-calling.

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feel free to be offended on behalf of the world ,get a piece of old cardboard and a felt tip pen and do the job properly .

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Ah but what is the "word"?

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i can think of a few

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The word was "sad" not "offended".

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Swedish anti-terror police are pelted with stones while arresting Stockholm attack suspects:dozey:

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quite normal in middle eastern territories .

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Speaking of those - more from "the religion of peace": Explosion at Egyptian church during Palm Sunday service kills 21

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It seems the suspect was on a wanted list after being told he was going to be deported after failing in his application for residency. I wonder how many migrants there may be wandering around the EU who're going to be facing the same fate and will wind up becoming radicalised and seeking revenge. :shrug:

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I've been in the city centre a fair bit recently, and even at around midday there are large lorries, vans, etc, delivering to shops all along the PEDESTRIAN areas. And some of the drivers are not happy if you don't get out of their way! Controlled entry and exit, but what's to stop another vehicle being nicked by some nutter and driven the whole length running people over? As just happened in Sweden?

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Sadly there's nothing to stop it happening in any number of busy places whether motivated by terrorism or anything else for that matter. I guess we have to be sensible, stay aware and keep our fingers crossed just like we did in the days of the IRA.

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Sweden will 'never go back' to the days of mass immigration after failed asylum seeker launched Friday's truck attack in Stockholm, says the country's shell-shocked PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

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Nothing like the sound of stable doors being closed after the horses have bolted.

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I tend to agree. This form of terrorism is a cancer which well intentioned but ill-conceived migration policy is only going to assist in its metastasis.

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It just goes to show that if a person fails the asylum request they should be deported immediately and not left to wander the country illegally.

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Well yes and it makes you wonder just what the politicians who made the decisions thought would happen to all those who'd subsequently be rejected, sometimes years later. Did they think they'd all just quietly await their fate, sign in every couple of weeks and turn up meekly on deportation day? Regardless of the legality, many of these people are understandably desperate. They've had their hopes of a new life raised, many have seen friends, relatives, loved ones die en route and they've pinned their hopes on life in the west. Once the sad reality dawns on them, you don't have to look much further to see a very vulnerable and easily manipulated group of disaffected people who will certainly be the target of extremists and terrorist recruiters. The same will likely be true of many of those who're allowed to remain but whose lives turn out to be far from what they imagined and who become increasingly disillusioned and angry.

The unpalatable truth is that there are hundreds of thousands of people wandering around the EU who are illegally here, can't get jobs and are going to be reliant on charity or theft for their survival. In the absence of proper jobs, housing etc. inevitably, many of these people are likely to turn to petty crime and worse as their desperation and resentment grows.

I've just heard a Labour Rochdale MP (IIRC) protesting about the very large number of migrants who've been effectively 'dumped' there with no means of adequately supporting themselves and the resulting social and other problems. Yes it's all very well taking in migrants but unless the required finance, facilities and services are put in place for them what are they supposed to do and is it any wonder that the local people get upset about it and tensions rise?

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'I am a Muslim and I support ISIS': Stockholm terrorist CONFESSES and tells police 'attack was REVENGE for bombing in Syria'

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Agreed. It should be like The Apprentice with the cab outside ready to take them to the airport.

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It's not exactly a surprise is it but I wonder how many of these people just use ISIS as a convenient hook to hang their coats on when life doesn't work out the way they'd like.

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'attack was REVENGE for bombing in Syria'

has Sweden bombed Syria ??

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Agreed on both counts.

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I know what you mean. But some of these terrorists see attacks like this as an attack against Western Society. They don't differentiate from one country to the other.

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Well that'd be an example of what I was saying. There are plenty of folks who have a screw loose and when they happen to be Muslims it's easy for them to claim some sort of allegiance to ISIS or blame one western act or another for their actions whether that makes sense or not.

Don't get me wrong, there's clearly a big issue with a certain proportion of Muslims who really believe in what the likes of ISIS preach but there's a great many more who don't.

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Deporting asylum seekers on failure can be a bit harsh. They could be genuine but can't easily prove it. It's a tough one getting the right balance.

One problem is relabelling refugees as migrants. There is a difference and the latter tends to get less sympathy than the former. And people can flee genuine persecution from stable and even "friendly" countries.

Me thinks there is genuine risk from "sleepers" who did arrive legally, have stable lives and jobs but are ready when needed to "go rogue". Doesn't even need to be hugely planned, just drive a bus/lorry/taxi/car into a crowd/building/river. These "sleepers" could even be the UK born children on immigrants who see and issue and want to react. They don't go abroad to get radicalised. They don't attend radical meetings. But they see what they feel an injustice and react.

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Meanwhile in other news the Pope's a Catholic and bears poo in the woods.

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A friend in northern Sweden (not Swedish herself) says that the public outcry was not that public as people are still afraid of being labelled racist. But there are signs that the public is now ready to question the immigration policy.