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bolgerp 07-04-2017 14:00

Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Hi all... does anyone have any information on the geographic roll out plans for the upgrade to 300MB? Apart from the information on here, I haven't been able to find anything else on line. Customer Service didn't have any info either. Not a big issue... just curious...

Ta.

roughbeast 07-04-2017 21:31

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bolgerp (Post 35893684)
Hi all... does anyone have any information on the geographic roll out plans for the upgrade to 300MB? Apart from the information on here, I haven't been able to find anything else on line. Customer Service didn't have any info either. Not a big issue... just curious...

Ta.

Roll out plan? I think Virgin are avoiding publishing anything like that nowadays. We can be assured that they have a plan ... I think, but published ones just give them too much agro when people complain they haven't been upgraded on schedule.

If you are wondering if your area is due to be upgraded, all I can suggest is that you do regular post code searches on what is available in your street or
ring CS and ask to be upgraded to 300Mb. You never know, your area may be ready.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7...n-website.html

weesteev 08-04-2017 08:53

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
+1 what RoughBeast says, VM wont announce the plans publicly. The works required for the 300Mb migration are enormous for some franchise areas so no timescale will be put on it. Use the postcode checker on the website as your best tool for now.

roughbeast 08-04-2017 11:11

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
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Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35893766)
+1 what RoughBeast says, VM wont announce the plans publicly. The works required for the 300Mb migration are enormous for some franchise areas so no timescale will be put on it. Use the postcode checker on the website as your best tool for now.

Having said what I said, I just now did a postcode search for my street, but using a different house number. The maximum download deal shown as a headline was Vivid 200. It was only when I dug down a couple of layers that Vivid 300 showed up.

Tricky Trevor 08-04-2017 11:49

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
I phoned sometime ago to be upgraded to 200mb even though it said my area wasnt ready and I got mine 9 months early

lonespeaker 08-04-2017 20:28

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35893794)
Having said what I said, I just now did a postcode search for my street, but using a different house number. The maximum download deal shown as a headline was Vivid 200. It was only when I dug down a couple of layers that Vivid 300 showed up.

The same appears for my postcode but I phoned up retentions anyway and they upgraded me to 300.. well it's more like 345mbit and superfast love it :)

roughbeast 09-04-2017 08:46

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lonespeaker (Post 35893852)
The same appears for my postcode but I phoned up retentions anyway and they upgraded me to 300.. well it's more like 345mbit and superfast love it :)

345Mb. :D You got lucky. Recent config adjustments gave some, like me, around 332Mb whilst others got 345Mb. I don't know why they varied the boost from customer to customer.

Jimmy-J 09-04-2017 18:58

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Is it 20Mb upload?

Martin_D 09-04-2017 22:21

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35893906)
Is it 20Mb upload?

Yes

Broadband speeds

VIVID 300

300Mbps/20Mbps

VIVID Gamer*

200Mbps/20Mbps

VIVID 200

200Mbps/12Mbps

VIVID 100

100Mbps/6Mbps

2pence 09-04-2017 22:24

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lonespeaker (Post 35893852)
The same appears for my postcode but I phoned up retentions anyway and they upgraded me to 300.. well it's more like 345mbit and superfast love it :)

Thank you for the tip. Using the post code method, I managed to find out that the 300Mbit deal is available on my road for £1 more than what I'm paying for the 200Mbit deal.

I'm still in contract until 25th May. Shall I wait till then for this deal?

pip08456 09-04-2017 22:31

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2pence (Post 35893921)
Thank you for the tip. Using the post code method, I managed to find out that the 300Mbit deal is available on my road for £1 more than what I'm paying for the 200Mbit deal.

I'm still in contract until 25th May. Shall I wait till then for this deal?

Entirely up to you. You could upgrade now if you wanted.

2pence 09-04-2017 22:35

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35893922)
Entirely up to you. You could upgrade now if you wanted.

Cheers, I'll give it a thought and decide from there. I may well go for it tomorrow.

Cromulent 10-04-2017 07:31

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
I'm currently on Vivid 200 Gamer and the thing that sold me on that was no upload speed traffic management as I upload to YouTube and stream on Twitch so that is important to me.

Does the new 300Mb package have traffic management on the upload speed or not? If it does I'll stick to my current package. Would be nice if they offered a faster download speed with no upload traffic management even if it cost a bit more.

Synthetic 10-04-2017 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cromulent (Post 35893940)
I'm currently on Vivid 200 Gamer and the thing that sold me on that was no upload speed traffic management as I upload to YouTube and stream on Twitch so that is important to me.

Does the new 300Mb package have traffic management on the upload speed or not? If it does I'll stick to my current package. Would be nice if they offered a faster download speed with no upload traffic management even if it cost a bit more.

No traffic management on the 300Meg package (up or down)

Cromulent 10-04-2017 09:56

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Originally Posted by Synthetic (Post 35893955)
No traffic management on the 300Meg package (up or down)

Ooo. That sounds very nice. I might upgrade in that case. Shouldn't cost that much more although I am currently on an introductory offer. I'd have to speak to them to find out.

duncan.stevenson 10-04-2017 14:16

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
If people are getting 10+% more than the stated download speed (345Mb instead of 300Mb), is the same true for upload? I feel that the upload is really the limiting factor now, especially with the plethora of off-site backup solutions which are becoming more popular, and even everyday things like iCloud Photo Library on iOS or Google Photos on Android - everything is getting uploaded these days!

2pence 10-04-2017 14:44

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
I went ahead and phoned them today, asked them to upgrade me and they immediately upgraded my connection to VIVID 300.

The SH3 now shows...
Primary Downstream Service Flow as "Max Traffic Rate: 345000000"
Primary Upstream Service Flow as "Max Traffic Rate: 22010000"

Speedtest results:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/04/20.png

Ping has improved too.

All in all, it's running super. :)

duncan.stevenson 10-04-2017 14:59

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2pence (Post 35893993)
I went ahead and phoned them today, asked them to upgrade me and they immediately upgraded my connection to VIVID 300.

The SH3 now shows...
Primary Downstream Service Flow as "Max Traffic Rate: 345000000"
Primary Upstream Service Flow as "Max Traffic Rate: 22010000"

Speedtest results:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/04/19.png

Ping has improved too.

All in all, it's running super. :)

That looks great. I cannot wait for Virgin to go live in my new build. Hopefully not too long to wait, as at the moment my connection is almost unusable!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/04/20.png

Kushan 10-04-2017 15:08

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan.stevenson (Post 35893984)
If people are getting 10+% more than the stated download speed (345Mb instead of 300Mb), is the same true for upload?

Nope, the reason Virgin gives you a good amount of overhead on download speeds is due to ASA restrictions on what you can advertise. Essentially, for Virgin to advertise 300Mbit, they have to ensure that 10% of people can actually get that - so they give everyone a 10% overhead so even during minor congestion/evenings/etc., at least 10% of people still get that headline speed.

Upload speeds aren't advertised as a headline speed, so the overhead isn't added. You get a little bit more but not much.

Coincidentally, upload speeds are the hardest (read: Most expensive) part of the network for Virgin to upgrade, due to the nature of DOCSIS.

duncan.stevenson 10-04-2017 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35893998)
Nope, the reason Virgin gives you a good amount of overhead on download speeds is due to ASA restrictions on what you can advertise. Essentially, for Virgin to advertise 300Mbit, they have to ensure that 10% of people can actually get that - so they give everyone a 10% overhead so even during minor congestion/evenings/etc., at least 10% of people still get that headline speed.

Upload speeds aren't advertised as a headline speed, so the overhead isn't added. You get a little bit more but not much.

Coincidentally, upload speeds are the hardest (read: Most expensive) part of the network for Virgin to upgrade, due to the nature of DOCSIS.

That's interesting to know. I'd love to know if they've got plans to upgrade the upload. It does seem to be the bit that is lacking all over the place really.

I used Google Fibre earlier in the year while we were on holiday at an AirBnB in Austin, TX. Absolutely epic, including the upload! SpeedTest got 414Mb down and 122Mb up!

tidder23 13-04-2017 02:49

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
so no "free" up grade ??

72 to 100
150 to 200
200 to 300

JordanTheToaster 13-04-2017 03:17

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
It is technically free you just have to call up and sign a new contract ending up with you paying the same just with the next tier up.

JPAC 13-04-2017 09:55

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tidder23 (Post 35894461)
so no "free" up grade ??

72 to 100
150 to 200
200 to 300

What are these numbers? Isn't it just the 300Mb getting an upgrade?

bolgerp 13-04-2017 10:15

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Unfortunately, seems like the 300MB isn't available in my area yet. It's a bit confusing on the website, though... as if I search for broadband only deals and put in my post code... it's says "Up to 200 MB" available in my postcode but the 300MB shows up in the options list. But when I click on that option, it greys out...

However, it's no biggie... I'm not in desperate need to go from 200 to 300 and can wait until it's available... I remember when the dial up standard jumped form 28KPBS to 56KBPS...

tidder23 13-04-2017 10:55

Re: Roll Out plans for 300MB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JPAC (Post 35894488)
What are these numbers? Isn't it just the 300Mb getting an upgrade?

that what I was asking
I get 150 but a new customer get 200 for round about the same price

(update)
a nice man at virgin media has just told me
that they are planning on upgrading my 150 to 200
but it's when they can get around to doing it which is fair enough


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