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BenMcr 03-04-2017 13:52

Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-39478203

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A woman has been ordered by a sheriff to pay a private parking company £24,500 in unpaid charges.

Carly Mackie ignored hundreds of penalty notices for parking at Dundee's Waterfront without a permit, claiming they were unenforceable.

Mr K 03-04-2017 14:03

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
Carly was wrong then wasn't she ?

nashville 03-04-2017 16:20

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
She should have paid them to start with and she would not be in this situation.

denphone 03-04-2017 16:24

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
Everybody else has to pay so why should she be different from the rest of us...

TheDaddy 03-04-2017 16:24

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Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35893082)
She should have paid them to start with and she would not be in this situation.

Thought she was being clever, wonder how smart she feels now

Chris 03-04-2017 17:25

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
Hooray for people who get their legal advice off the Internet.

Damien 03-04-2017 17:57

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35893093)
Hooray for people who get their legal advice off the Internet.

She probably failed to make a public declaration on Facebook that she was not bound by the terms of the parking agreement.

Kursk 03-04-2017 19:00

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
That's a significant debt to place upon a young woman; can't help feeling there might have been another way of protecting her from her own ignorance before things got out of hand.

Mr K 03-04-2017 20:23

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35893101)
That's a significant debt to place upon a young woman; can't help feeling there might have been another way of protecting her from her own ignorance before things got out of hand.

Well her car might get repossessed so that will protect her from any more fines (!)

Osem 03-04-2017 22:16

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35893101)
That's a significant debt to place upon a young woman; can't help feeling there might have been another way of protecting her from her own ignorance before things got out of hand.

You're beginning to sound like one or rwo remainers I know around here... :D

I'm afraid I have no sympathy for her or those who only seem to heed advice which confirms what they want to believe. Too many people run their lives via what appears on Google's first page of results and they really need to be a lot more responsible, especially when the stakes are so high. Kerching.

Kursk 04-04-2017 01:00

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35893116)
Well her car might get repossessed so that will protect her from any more fines (!)

Might also make her less employable and less able to pay the fines etc

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35893142)
You're beginning to sound like one or rwo remainers I know around here... :D

How can you be so cruel? ;)

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35893142)
I'm afraid I have no sympathy for her or those who only seem to heed advice which confirms what they want to believe. Too many people run their lives via what appears on Google's first page of results and they really need to be a lot more responsible, especially when the stakes are so high. Kerching.

Fair point. But if they'd just clamped her car early on and not released it until she paid a fine, she wouldn't have accumulated an horrendous debt. Or was that the plan?

The circumstances are indefensible; I just feel there could have been a different approach and resolution. It's not as if she was parked in an otherwise usable space.

nomadking 04-04-2017 01:16

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They gave her over 200 tickets. It's not as if they waited in silence and then hit her with a massive bill. She knew full well that it was wrong, but thought, incorrectly, that she would get away with it. She wasn't a tenant and so had no right to be there.
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Sheriff Way said Ms Mackie had parked outside the garage and would not accept the offer of a parking permit for a space nearby for £40 per month.
In a written judgement, Sheriff Way said: "She admits she parked without a permit, on the property that the pursuers were contracted to protect. "She had no better right or title to do so than any other interloper or stranger no matter what her belief might be."

pip08456 04-04-2017 01:33

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From the report.

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She had been living at a flat with her stepfather, who was a tenant and had a garage at the property.

Sheriff Way said Ms Mackie had parked outside the garage and would not accept the offer of a parking permit for a space nearby for £40 per month.
I wonder if the garage was empty?

Julian 04-04-2017 01:55

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35893167)
From the report.



I wonder if the garage was empty?

Apparently it was used to store parking tickets.

Kursk 04-04-2017 02:10

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35893166)
They gave her over 200 tickets.

After half a dozen they might have tried something else: clamping would be more likely to get the fines paid and she wouldn't be saddled with a life-changing debt.

nomadking 04-04-2017 02:30

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35893171)
After half a dozen they might have tried something else: clamping would be more likely to get the fines paid and she wouldn't be saddled with a life-changing debt.

They're not allowed to clamp cars in Scotland.

Kursk 04-04-2017 03:38

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35893173)
They're not allowed to clamp cars in Scotland.

That's that then. Being nice doesn't suit me anyway :D

TheDaddy 04-04-2017 04:44

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35893171)
After half a dozen they might have tried something else: clamping would be more likely to get the fines paid and she wouldn't be saddled with a life-changing debt.

And also be illegal...

---------- Post added at 03:44 ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 ----------

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35893173)
They're not allowed to clamp cars in Scotland.

Or anywhere else in the UK for that matter if you're a parking company

BenMcr 04-04-2017 08:23

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35893167)
From the report.

I wonder if the garage was empty?

If it's like recently built garages in developments near me, it's probably too small for most modern cars.

Chris 04-04-2017 09:36

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And here she is

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Courtesy of the Dundee Courier.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...articleisfree/

papa smurf 04-04-2017 09:38

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35893185)
If it's like recently built garages in developments near me, it's probably too small for most modern cars.

i don't know about recently built i had a garage for my flat 30 odd years ago my Austin Allegro estate fitted but i had to escape and enter through the rear hatch as the doors only opened a couple of inches

BenMcr 04-04-2017 10:29

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35893188)

Love the standard crossed arms pose for the newspaper.

If you haven't seen it yet, then this site is worth a laugh -
Angry People in Local News http://apiln.blogspot.co.uk/

Osem 04-04-2017 12:00

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35893164)
Might also make her less employable and less able to pay the fines etc


How can you be so cruel? ;)


Fair point. But if they'd just clamped her car early on and not released it until she paid a fine, she wouldn't have accumulated an horrendous debt. Or was that the plan?

The circumstances are indefensible; I just feel there could have been a different approach and resolution. It's not as if she was parked in an otherwise usable space.

I'm not sure anyone in their right mind would have have planned for or predicted that things would escalate to this level. If this woman can't pay the debt then the company concerned will be considerably out of pocket - not much of a plan that lol. The fact is she got the tickets, disputed their legality for a considerable time and lost the ensuing legal battle.


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.46...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Is this where she parked I wonder? Looks like a pavement to me. :shrug:

Kursk 04-04-2017 14:07

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Poor Carly, I feel sorry for her. A good ol' David Moyes slap could have nipped all this in the bud. My heart bleeds for the 'out-of-pocket' company.

Osem 04-04-2017 15:10

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35893228)
Poor Carly, I feel sorry for her. A good ol' David Moyes slap could have nipped all this in the bud. My heart bleeds for the 'out-of-pocket' company.

I'm not sorry or happy for the company concerned just pointing out that I doubt it was some form of 'plan' as you'd implied. Not sure what David Moyes being a dick has to do with any of it frankly but the woman in question is an adult, made her decision to ignore dozens of tickets and paid the price. Regretful yes, deserving of my sympathy no.

heero_yuy 04-04-2017 15:23

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35893238)
the woman in question is an adult, made her decision to ignore dozens of tickets and paid the price. Regretful yes, deserving of my sympathy no.

Unfortunately she's from generation snowflake. They think rules don't apply to them. If she had disputed the first ticket and lost she would only have paid a small penalty and known what the state of play was. By being arrogant and just ignoring the piles of tickets she has been rewarded for her attitude.

Kursk 04-04-2017 17:51

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35893238)
I'm not sorry or happy for the company concerned just pointing out that I doubt it was some form of 'plan' as you'd implied. Not sure what David Moyes being a dick has to do with any of it frankly but the woman in question is an adult, made her decision to ignore dozens of tickets and paid the price. Regretful yes, deserving of my sympathy no.

S'obvious, they're both Scots ;). My next move would be to find out who is the owner of the Company and where he parks his Bentley :disturbd:

duncan.stevenson 04-04-2017 20:27

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
I don't object to the fight against private parking companies and their 'fines' where the company doesn't signpost the conditions correctly or makes the terms misleading in some way through lack of signage or overly complicated signage...

However in this case the woman was clearly chancing her luck and knew perfectly well what the rules were. It's difficult to feel much sympathy for her. That said, it seems pretty unlikely that the parking company will see much of the fine - is she likely to be able to pay?

I'm sure I read that she had the option of a £50/mo permit? Might have sounded expensive at the time, but probably seems like a better option now! 😂

nomadking 04-04-2017 21:01

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Regardless of any signage, people know they are parking on private land and that there would be chaos, if all and sundry were allowed to park there. The only issue might be where there is a time limit.

Paul 05-04-2017 00:44

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35893199)
Love the standard crossed arms pose for the newspaper.

There is a picture of here in our Metro paper, stood next to her car, but exactly the same crossed arms pose.

Mr K 05-04-2017 09:16

Re: Court orders woman to pay £24,500 to private parking company
 
Maybe she'll have to cut back on the leather jackets. make up, gold earings, hair do etc.

Maybe we can have a whip-round and get her a bike, that will save on the gym membership too.


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