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nialli 26-01-2017 10:42

Sky to offer full TV service over broadband in 2018
 
This could prove interesting, but is there an appetite for the full Sky service over broadband (at presumably the full Sky price, too)?

https://www.theguardian.com/business...e-rights-costs

OLD BOY 26-01-2017 10:53

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35882350)
This could prove interesting, but is there an appetite for the full Sky service over broadband (at presumably the full Sky price, too)?

https://www.theguardian.com/business...e-rights-costs

It is the future, nialli, and although I (possibly unfairly) criticised Sky a while ago for not embracing on demand viewing until relatively recently, this is clearly a brave move in the right direction.

dodgem22 26-01-2017 11:09

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As someone who is not able to have a dish due to a line of trees this would indeed give me more choice of supplier in the future. It is also of note that they are saying about rewarding loyal customers.

heavyside 26-01-2017 11:24

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Originally Posted by dodgem22 (Post 35882358)
As someone who is not able to have a dish due to a line of trees this would indeed give me more choice of supplier in the future.

This will be of interest to people who for reasons of location (like you) or because they live in listed buildings, in a conservation area or have lease restrictions are not permitted a satellite dish on the outside of their home.

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It is also of note that they are saying about rewarding loyal customers.
Virgin Media please take note.

denphone 26-01-2017 11:32

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Well we have been Virgin customers since the days of the ark and they have given us decent discounts on a regular basis so l think they like Sky are already listening.

nialli 26-01-2017 11:53

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35882361)
Well we have been Virgin customers since the days of the ark and they have given us decent discounts on a regular basis so l think they like Sky are already listening.

+1. A phone call to Retentions is normally good value. It would be good though if they introduced something like a "continuous service" discount, say 5% for every five years as a loyal customer?

denphone 26-01-2017 12:00

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35882362)
+1. A phone call to Retentions is normally good value. It would be good though if they introduced something like a "continuous service" discount, say 5% for every five years as a loyal customer?


Yes that would certainly be a good idea.

muppetman11 26-01-2017 12:09

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35882350)
This could prove interesting, but is there an appetite for the full Sky service over broadband (at presumably the full Sky price, too)?

https://www.theguardian.com/business...e-rights-costs

I agree there's certainly appetite for the service but I highly doubt at the current prices.

In my opinion bundles and channels will need to be restructured to make them more attractive.

As I've said before I expect Sky to axe any pay channels it feels are under performing.

nialli 26-01-2017 12:37

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More details here: http://www.whathifi.com/news/sky-q-t...lite-dish-2018

alwaysabear 26-01-2017 12:44

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35882369)

The only problem with this service for Sky is they are completely reliant on BT to deliver.

Bob 26-01-2017 12:48

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I'm just thinking about the huge increased in data consumed for those people that do opt for this. Granted 'streaming services' aren't new but this a significant step change!

Expect to see this launch as only compatible with Sky broadband initially ;-)

muppetman11 26-01-2017 12:48

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35882370)
The only problem with this service for Sky is they are completely reliant on BT to deliver.

I'd expect it to be available for fibre only customers , I'd also expect it to differ from BT'S TV.

BT's TV requires your broadband to watch or record , I'd expect in 2018 Sky to have nailed down cloud rights thus making a copy of shows in the cloud rather than recording local and using all your broadband connection.

denphone 26-01-2017 12:53

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35882370)
The only problem with this service for Sky is they are completely reliant on BT to deliver.

And relations there are far from the romantic couple..

muppetman11 26-01-2017 12:57

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And relations there are far from the romantic couple..

Relations are irrelevant Openreach is regulated and offers each ISP the same range of products at regulated prices.

alwaysabear 26-01-2017 13:20

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882375)
Relations are irrelevant Openreach is regulated and offers each ISP the same range of products at regulated prices.

From my daughters experience BT have problems delivering the fibre service she pays for 76MB as she is to far from the exchange. The knock on effect is buffering Now TV. BT needs to spend Billions updating everything.
She hopes to have VM by the end of the year as they are extending in this area.

muppetman11 26-01-2017 13:25

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35882380)
From my daughters experience BT have problems delivering the fibre service she pays for 76MB as she is to far from the exchange. The knock on effect is buffering Now TV. BT needs to spend Billions updating everything.
She hopes to have VM by the end of the year as they are extending in this area.

That's an inherent problem with the technology however to be fair generally the checker is pretty accurate with its estimation let's not forget in manyour areas VM fails to deliver with its speeds during peak hours. Go in the internet section on here , many times I've seen people reporting below 2 mbps speeds owing to congestion.

Sadly neither are perfect for all.

alwaysabear 26-01-2017 13:30

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882381)
That's an inherent problem with the technology however to be fair generally the checker is pretty accurate with its estimation let's not forget in manyour areas VM fails to deliver with its speeds during peak hours.

Maybe we are fortunate ,but I get what I pay for 200mb and always have. My daughter was also with VM and had no problems.

muppetman11 26-01-2017 13:36

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35882383)
Maybe we are fortunate ,but I get what I pay for 200mb and always have. My daughter was also with VM and had no problems.

As do I.

BT's broadband is certainly distant dependant but you should get an accurate estimate when looking to join. I'm sure you'll find many happy and many disgruntled customers from both camps.

alwaysabear 26-01-2017 13:44

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882385)
As do I.

BT's broadband is certainly distant dependant but you should get an accurate estimate when looking to join. I'm sure you'll find many happy and many disgruntled customers from both camps.

I know there are disgruntled customers on both sides, unfortunately my daughter has no choice at present. Its about time BT sorted this problem of distance.

muppetman11 26-01-2017 13:58

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35882388)
I know there are disgruntled customers on both sides, unfortunately my daughter has no choice at present. Its about time BT sorted this problem of distance.

Trust me I'm no fan of BT but to be fair in my location the FTTC ISP's I've used on the Openreach network have provided good reliable speeds regardless of time.

G.fast is the next thing for BT so it'll be interesting to see what kind of average speeds that can deliver.
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...and-pilot.html

Would this Sky TV service over broadband require you to have Sky Fibre or cold it be open to customers of other ISP's ? A lot of people now use Sky combined with VM Broadband.

alwaysabear 26-01-2017 14:04

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882389)
Trust me I'm no fan of BT but to be fair in my location the FTTC ISP's I've used on the Openreach network have provided good reliable speeds regardless of time.

G.fast is the next thing for BT so it'll be interesting to see what kind of average speeds that can deliver.
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...and-pilot.html

I checked my daughters area on the BT checker as you brought it up. She should be getting at least 44mb not even close, I will get her to phone their customer services again, as she is obviously being fobbed off.
Thanks for bringing the checker up.

greeninferno 26-01-2017 21:22

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How much bandwidth would a single UHD channel take up presently?

muppetman11 26-01-2017 21:26

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Originally Posted by greeninferno (Post 35882456)
How much bandwidth would a single UHD channel take up presently?

BT UHD is around 30 mb I believe.

johnathome 26-01-2017 22:01

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882457)
BT UHD is around 30 mb I believe.

Oh, my VM 50meg wouldn't be any good in the evening then! :(

alwaysabear 26-01-2017 22:29

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35882467)
Oh, my VM 50meg wouldn't be any good in the evening then! :(

No neither would my daughters 76mb BT connection.


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