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Arthurgray50@blu 05-01-2017 21:58

M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
http://news.sky.com/story/man-shot-b...chest-10718948

I am totally amazed at this article, and the uproar in public opinion as to what happened. And for the public outcry of saying ' Murdered by Police'

I have several opinions of this. The police NO MATTER what force they are. They do not do this type of thing lightly.

Senior officers would have sort Intelligence on the guy, and his followers. And this would have taken months to carry out the Op. I have read in the Yorkshire Newspapers. That he wasn't an angel, and someone tried to shoot him last year. And he was cleared of Attempted Murder

And that he was well known villain to police.
They found a loaded gun in his car. What was that for protection, or for something else

I don't know anyone else thinks. And look forward to comments.:(

Mr K 05-01-2017 22:03

Re: Another person shot by Police
 
None of us were thankfully there Arthur, so don't think anyone can comment until the IPCC have done their investigation.

adzii_nufc 05-01-2017 23:47

Re: Another person shot by Police
 
To be fair he's telling the truth though. They'd have plenty of intel.

Already stinks of a typical, he was an 'angel' story. The type of Angel that carries firearms in his vehicle.

Paul 06-01-2017 01:27

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
He was clearly an armed criminal, and probably pulled his gun out when cornered, they would not have shot him unless he was at the very least brandishing it.

I love the bit where they say "a non-police issue firearm" was found in the car. Since when did the police start issuing out firearms to the public ?

OhReally 06-01-2017 01:28

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35879274)
He was clearly an armed criminal, and probably pulled his gun out when cornered, they would not have shot him unless he was at the very least brandishing it.

I love the bit where they say "a non-police issue firearm" was found in the car. Since when did the police start issuing out firearms to the public ?

Where's the queue and how long is the wait :D

swoop101 06-01-2017 06:46

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
oh yeah, he was an angel ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...calm-protests/

Mr K 06-01-2017 08:07

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Interestingly the police weren't wearing body cameras, which is common in W Yorkshire. This might have cleared things up a lot more quickly.

Chris 06-01-2017 08:36

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35879274)
He was clearly an armed criminal, and probably pulled his gun out when cornered, they would not have shot him unless he was at the very least brandishing it.

I love the bit where they say "a non-police issue firearm" was found in the car. Since when did the police start issuing out firearms to the public ?

Unfortunately some yooman-rites campaigners like to insinuate that the police "issue" firearms posthumously to people they have just killed, in order to justify the shooting. c.f. Mark Duggan, another fallen angel who definitely didn't invite his own fate by being armed in the back of a taxi.

Stephen 06-01-2017 08:38

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
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Originally Posted by swoop101 (Post 35879286)

Reading that paints a totally different picture of hun and not a nice one.

Police wouldn't have opened fire without good reason. He had a weapon on him and they knew that. If he refused to get out the car or was seen to be holding or reaching for it then they will have done the right thing.

Hugh 06-01-2017 08:52

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35879288)
Interestingly the police weren't wearing body cameras, which is common in W Yorkshire. This might have cleared things up a lot more quickly.

They were in plain clothes - having a harness mounted camera might have blown that look...

Even if they did wear them, it would have to be helmet or shoulder mounted*, and once again, sort of give the game away...

*if it was worn worn where uniformed police wear them (right of left side of chest, on a harness), when the officer had the rifle in the ready/firing position (butt resting against shoulder), this would obscure the camera.

Osem 06-01-2017 09:29

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
So many saints, so many guns...

Derek 06-01-2017 09:50

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35879288)
Interestingly the police weren't wearing body cameras, which is common in W Yorkshire. This might have cleared things up a lot more quickly.

As pointed out armed surveillance teams tend not to advertise they are Police officers and any form of overt camera would ruin their 'covertness'

Considering armed stops are done every day without incident tends to suggest that the deceased wasn't complying and his actions made shooting a certainty.

Osem 06-01-2017 09:55

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35879307)
As pointed out armed surveillance teams tend not to advertise they are Police officers and any form of overt camera would ruin their 'covertness'

Considering armed stops are done every day without incident tends to suggest that the deceased wasn't complying and his actions made shooting a certainty.

Maybe they could disguise said cameras to look like parrots on their shoulders...

Derek 06-01-2017 11:18

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35879309)
Maybe they could disguise said cameras to look like parrots on their shoulders...

The main thing that unites the 'why weren't they wearing cameras' brigade is their total lack of knowledge on how Policing, surveillance and firearms work and a similar lack of common sense.

Osem 06-01-2017 11:39

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35879323)
The main thing that unites the 'why weren't they wearing cameras' brigade is their total lack of knowledge on how Policing, surveillance and firearms work and a similar lack of common sense.

Yes I'd noticed that. The same level of insight which leads them to ask questions like 'why weren't warning shots fired first?...'

Derek 06-01-2017 11:57

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35879325)
Yes I'd noticed that. The same level of insight which leads them to ask questions like 'why weren't warning shots fired first?...'

Or why didn't they shoot the gun out his hand? :banghead:

Mr K 06-01-2017 12:31

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
He may well have been a nasty piece of work. Just find it strange there is no CCTV footage at all given the amount of cameras on the M62.
The smallest of cameras can be hidden these days. It would give more confidence to those that need to use guns in these situations. As it is, they now have to go through a long investigation, with all sorts of accusations being made and tensions stirred up. If footage was available that might have clarified things quickly and quashed anyone trying to use this incident for their own underhand purposes.

Taf 06-01-2017 12:56

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Deployment of armed police is very well controlled. There must be a "known or strongly perceived threat", and as this was a "preplanned" arrest, they obviously knew there was a danger of an armed response.

Good grouping from whoever fired their weapon.

An of course his parents and family had absolutely no idea where all his money was coming and from and they didn't profit from it all did they? :mad:

Chris 06-01-2017 13:02

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35879325)
Yes I'd noticed that. The same level of insight which leads them to ask questions like 'why weren't warning shots fired first?...'

Every Arab with an AK knows it's perfectly safe to sky a few rounds first. Our police are so backwards. :dunce:

Osem 06-01-2017 13:13

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35879339)
Deployment of armed police is very well controlled. There must be a "known or strongly perceived threat", and as this was a "preplanned" arrest, they obviously knew there was a danger of an armed response.

Good grouping from whoever fired their weapon.

An of course his parents and family had absolutely no idea where all his money was coming and from and they didn't profit from it all did they? :mad:

Maybe the investigations will include looking into that, his assets and how much tax he paid...

swoop101 06-01-2017 14:14

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
It has been announced that the gun that was found was in the front passenger foot well. ( right where his feet were )

Hugh 06-01-2017 14:21

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35879325)
Yes I'd noticed that. The same level of insight which leads them to ask questions like 'why weren't warning shots fired first?...'

Or "why didn't they just shoot to disable them?"...

Pierre 06-01-2017 14:35

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35879331)
He may well have been a nasty piece of work. Just find it strange there is no CCTV footage at all given the amount of cameras on the M62.

wasn't on the motorway it was off the slip road coming off the M62

Hugh 06-01-2017 15:02

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35879363)
wasn't on the motorway it was off the slip road coming off the M62

I can see the conspiracy theorists starting already....

"Of course, they stopped and shot him there because they knew there were no cameras at that spot..."

RizzyKing 06-01-2017 15:03

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
I'm sure also his family will be so outraged they will immediately leave the country that clearly is so bad. Sorry this guy was filth and like many like him thought he was a lot more then he was and pushed his luck.

Hom3r 06-01-2017 18:28

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35879325)
Yes I'd noticed that. The same level of insight which leads them to ask questions like 'why weren't warning shots fired first?...'

Because they could be shot themselves.

If a cop aimed a gun an me my hand would be visible and flat spread.

figgyburn 06-01-2017 18:54

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Ah but brown lives matter as well.
Ferguson,Mo.Tulsa,Ok,Charlotte,N.C.Huddersfield,U. K.Same social justice warrior faux outrage.These people never call out the "victim"as a thug as, in most cases they are found out not to have helped little ladies across the road as their families wail before the cameras before they were"gunned down" in cold blood.Good riddance to bad rubbish I say.

RizzyKing 06-01-2017 19:51

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
It's amazing how quick families of **** can get out and about blaming the police and I'm sure our society will be blamed in the coming weeks for his death that he totally didn't deserve :rolleyes:. If they were a half decent family they would have done something sooner to make him stop his criminal activity but i guess it was easier to be quiet and profit from it. No doubt they will try to sue get one last payday out of him.

Maggy 06-01-2017 22:18

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35879394)
Ah but brown lives matter as well.
Ferguson,Mo.Tulsa,Ok,Charlotte,N.C.Huddersfield,U. K.Same social justice warrior faux outrage.These people never call out the "victim"as a thug as, in most cases they are found out not to have helped little ladies across the road as their families wail before the cameras before they were"gunned down" in cold blood.Good riddance to bad rubbish I say.

IF,if they are innocent then yes they do matter..however ANYONE regardless of colour,religion,age,sex who deals in guns and faces off against the police deserves what they get. Let's not tar all and every group and start spouting racist rubbish about ANY group in particular.

Hugh 06-01-2017 22:38

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35879394)
Ah but brown lives matter as well.
Ferguson,Mo.Tulsa,Ok,Charlotte,N.C.Huddersfield,U. K.Same social justice warrior faux outrage.These people never call out the "victim"as a thug as, in most cases they are found out not to have helped little ladies across the road as their families wail before the cameras before they were"gunned down" in cold blood.Good riddance to bad rubbish I say.

False equivalence - lot of difference between some who had their hands up, or were walking away, to someone who had a semi-auto shotgun in the footwell.

Casual racism, much...:rolleyes:

Paul 06-01-2017 23:36

Re: M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35879339)
Good grouping from whoever fired their weapon.

Most likely more than one person fired.


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