Likely terrorist attack in Berlin
 

I think we can expect more of this as we head towards Christmas

Nine die in truck 'attack' on Berlin Christmas market
http://news.sky.com/story/nine-die-i...arket-10702656

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Almost certain to be terrorist according to reports from Germany.

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Seems they have arrested the driver, lets see who he is and from where ?

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My post should have been in the Russian ambassador thread not this one so I've deleted it.

Yes, it will be interesting to find out but it seems to share the MO of various French attacks carried out by 'IS sympathisers' and if it is, was the Turkey assassination attack just a coincidence. :shrug:

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Yes and I expect even more going forward into the new year and beyond. Do you not realise that ISIS are not stupid and have infiltrated the refugees that they have caused?

I have no problem with genuine refugees they should be given safe haven.

If I gave you a bag of sweets and said one was poisioned but I don't know which one. Would you eat them?

Of course not! But that is exactly what ISIS has done by causing the refugee crisis in their small part. They are by no means stupid and do have a hidden agenda.

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Link

As you sow, so shall you reap. :(

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Your 2 sentences are contradictory: the first says that I welcome genuine refugees but the second says I welcome none as I cannot tell which one of them, from the hundreds of thousands is the terrorist.

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... and these poor people won't be the last to suffer at the hands of those who use our freedoms against us.

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The bigger, ongoing unsolvable problem is that even the ones that aren't terrorists or violent in any way, can change into being a terrorist or produce kids that are terrorists. There is no end to it.

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Correct and the fact that a) existing born and bred 'citizens' can be/become terrorists/murders and b) we can't keep everyone out aren't reasons for not being much more careful about whom we choose admit into our society and the freedom/rights we offer them.

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Live Berlin market attack: driver still at large after "wrong man arrested"

German police believe they arrested the wrong man over the Berlin terror attack and the real culprit could still be at large, a German newspaper has claimed, adding the real perpetrator could be armed and dangerous.


German media reported first that Baluch was denying responsibility for the attack and later - citing senior police sources - that he was the wrong man. This has not been officially confirmed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...asylum-seeker/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38379157

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"It wasn't me!"

Of course he'd say that....

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They're still not sure. If it is the wrong man then he has already been named along with loads of other information. :dozey:

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and yet we get this kind of rubbish here: Anti-Gun Trolls Attack ‘Militarised’ UK Police for Guarding Christmas Market
:rolleyes: and that's why I call these people libtards :shrug:

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Doesn't seem like much of an overreaction now ,i wonder if any of those morons are tweeting apologies in the face of what just happened.

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Why not just call them morons, because that's what they are...

Left-wing does not equal liberal - many left wingers are authoritarian, and anti-authoritarian left-wingers are often anarchic, not liberal...

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They are, however, often left wing and liberal.

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In cases like this if it is a terrorist attack, we should NOT name the people behind it or the group invoved.

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They have released the guy they arrested.

What?

Not even hold him until evidence shows innocence?

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Maybe they have released him because evidence has arisen that shows innocence

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Or there is any evidence of wrongdoing. Who knows.

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I would say in the UK most left-wing people, especially the further you move from the center, aren't liberal. For example for Labour party certainly aren't liberals.

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Merkel's probably sh%^&*g bricks right now, praying that the perpetrator ISN'T one the millions she's let flood into the country with zero checks whatsoever...if he is, she should go on trial as accomplice to murder.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...MCNEWEML6619I2

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38392128

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Linky

Looks like they got their man but questions have to be asked as to how he managed to evade a manhunt and get to Italy?

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Did they identify him from a handily discarded ID card?

The beauty of travel without any border controls.

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That'll be the EU's effective border controls in action once again. :rolleyes:

In a different world these sort of arrangements between states would be perfect but we don't live in one and quite frankly the EU's obsession with free movement etc. is a criminal/terrorist's charter.

I wonder if anyone in Berlin has yet worked out the threat posed to Germany and the EU from the large number of very angry young men, in particular, whose claims for asylum have or are going to be rejected or whose lives in the west turn out to be very much harsher than they expected. That's aside from those who've come to the west already radicalised and just waiting for the chance to cause murder and mayhem. Are these people just going to head off quietly back home when the times comes or are they going to resort to crime or exact retribution in one way or another? Desperate people do desperate things after all but maybe the likes of Merkel don't know what real desperation is.

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Berlin’s Left-Wing Coalition Govt Refused to Acknowledge Islamist Terror Just Two Weeks Before the Christmas Market Truck Attack
If you made this up people wouldn't believe you :rolleyes::dozey:

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More afraid of their NAZI heritage returning than of the rot spreading before their eyes.

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I have a feeling their chosen strategy will only serve to make matters worse. It was after all the refusal of main stream politicians here and in the EU to enter into any debate about the dangers of uncontrolled migration which has seen support for the right wing streadily increase.