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RichardCoulter 07-12-2016 15:20

Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201612074...#axzz4SAHSZruL

I remember when TiVo first started that there wasn't a reminder function, which was eventually added.

One of the reasons for this was people who wanted to watch sporting events live.

Stephen 07-12-2016 15:25

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When you look at the details it's not simply recording them for the sake of it.

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The reasons for this are myriad: 75% said they use the DVR as a back-up when they can’t watch the game live, 58% use it as a back-up when they might miss the start of a contest, and 58% like to skip ads.
TiVo got the reminder feature purely because V+ users missed the feature and moaned loud enough that VM got TiVo to add the feature. Although it functions differently and also records the program anyway.

RichardCoulter 07-12-2016 15:32

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Yep, but I'm still surprised that most people record live sporting events.

I had assumed that they would simply watch them as they happen and use Delay TV to watch anything that they want to see again.

Stephen 07-12-2016 15:35

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Well they mainly do watch them live. Most people will record them just in case they miss the start or skip adverts.

Most people don't record them as a matter of course.

MutleyF 07-12-2016 16:09

Re: Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
with the hours I work, recording live sports is often the only way I can watch them

OLD BOY 07-12-2016 16:14

Re: Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35874360)
Yep, but I'm still surprised that most people record live sporting events.

I had assumed that they would simply watch them as they happen and use Delay TV to watch anything that they want to see again.

I know a lot of people think like that, but a football match watched as a recording is just as exciting as watching it live if you don't already know the result.

The main problem is when your friends ring up before you've had a chance to watch it and give the game away.

mike_gain 07-12-2016 16:30

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With 3 kids and a wife that works shifts I nearly always record midweek football as I'm very rarely finished bedtime/housework before a game starts. There is the risk of finding out the result from various sources....or worst of all switching everything on to find the tuner being shown on the telly is the one recording but it's either that or miss half the game. Plus the addition of not having to listen to punditry is too much of a bonus.

Chad 07-12-2016 20:21

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I record boxing when it's on either Boxnation or SKY. The show tends to last about 4 or 5 hours. Usually there's maybe 4 or 5 live fights on the card but I really only want to watch about 2 of them. Generally the chief support fight is on around 9:30pm with the main event around 10:30pm. I'll let the show run for a couple of hours and will fast forward through all the adverts and pre-fight build up of the lower fights. I'll watch maybe a round or 2 of the undercard fights but if they are boring I'll fas forward to the result. I'd say 9 times out of 10 I'm usually through all of the undercard stuff within about 45 mins and caught up with the live broadcast in time to watch the fights I want to see live. A 5 hour show watched in less than 3 hours.

alwaysabear 07-12-2016 21:52

Re: Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35874360)
Yep, but I'm still surprised that most people record live sporting events.

I had assumed that they would simply watch them as they happen and use Delay TV to watch anything that they want to see again.

I watch sports live, but record just in case.

RichardCoulter 07-12-2016 22:06

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35874361)
Well they mainly do watch them live. Most people will record them just in case they miss the start or skip adverts.

Most people don't record them as a matter of course.

But if you're watching it live you wouldn't be able to FF the adverts :erm:

There again, people probably pause it to go to the loo, make a drink, answer the door etc so FFing through the adverts allows them to get up to speed with everyone else.

This reminds me of when Peter Kaye said that his mum doesn't like to pause her programmes as other people in the country might want to get on with watching it :D :D

MisterQ 07-12-2016 22:39

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I guess it is difficult with Virgin Media as you have to rely on old fashioned Padding for overruns. I tend to use other sources for free channels as it tends to be more reliable and has dynamic epg etc. and Now Tv for sky sports as it is a fraction of the price of a monthly subscription.

P.S. Has most of Virgins' web sites been down today, or just my internet? Getting to the homepage is ok but trying to login or access webmail or service status or anything else doesn't work. Spinning circles and errors on Pc Anywhere but that seems to be normal?

Oh, Finally got an error:

Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

denphone 08-12-2016 06:06

Re: Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35874444)
I watch sports live, but record just in case.

+1

OLD BOY 08-12-2016 07:54

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Originally Posted by MisterQ (Post 35874455)
I guess it is difficult with Virgin Media as you have to rely on old fashioned Padding for overruns. I tend to use other sources for free channels as it tends to be more reliable and has dynamic epg etc. and Now Tv for sky sports as it is a fraction of the price of a monthly subscription.

It's easy enough to extend a live recording. That is a non issue.

MisterQ 08-12-2016 10:09

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35874493)
It's easy enough to extend a live recording. That is a non issue.

Speak for yourself! It is a massive improvement having this basic feature on all the other platforms except Virgin Media. Sometimes American sport can overrun 3 or 4 hours or more. Sometimes you want to record a program later in the evening that is delayed due an earlier program being extended. You cannot extend everything. Much better for the recording to automatically start and stop at the correct times.

alwaysabear 08-12-2016 10:16

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Originally Posted by MisterQ (Post 35874511)
Speak for yourself! It is a massive improvement having this basic feature on all the other platforms except Virgin Media. Sometimes American sport can overrun 3 or 4 hours or more. Sometimes you want to record a program later in the evening that is delayed due an earlier program being extended. You cannot extend everything. Much better for the recording to automatically start and stop at the correct times.

Its been a bug bear of mine for years! A Dynamic EPG would improve VM tv service IMO.
Yes there is extra padding , but you cannot do this for every event, there would not be enough space on the HD.:(

clayts 08-12-2016 11:19

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I record pretty much all live sport I watch so I can (a) avoid punditry (b) avoid adverts (c) stack up football matches one after the other (6 hr marathons are a regular occurrence on Sundays) (d) enjoy Test match cricket (an oxymoron to some, I admit) in full, particularly as most matches are through the night at present.

The biggest risk factor is, as others have mentioned, finding out the score, although it's surprising how little this occurs.

It's all about convenience at the end of the day - I rarely, if ever, watch live TV these days

Mad Max 08-12-2016 16:03

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Funny how we all differ, i never record live sports, and tbh, apart from on here, i don't know anyone who does!

Taf 08-12-2016 16:15

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I wonder if this is the type of survey that made VM think that all viewers wanted BT Sports and would be happy to pay for it?

denphone 08-12-2016 16:21

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35874578)
Funny how we all differ, i never record live sports, and tbh, apart from on here, i don't know anyone who does!

Well get your blinkers off for once MM.;):D

OLD BOY 08-12-2016 19:06

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Originally Posted by MisterQ (Post 35874511)
Speak for yourself! It is a massive improvement having this basic feature on all the other platforms except Virgin Media. Sometimes American sport can overrun 3 or 4 hours or more. Sometimes you want to record a program later in the evening that is delayed due an earlier program being extended. You cannot extend everything. Much better for the recording to automatically start and stop at the correct times.

That's why you have three tuners. Get a V6 and you'll have 6, and if you opt for another in a different room, it'll be 12!

Don't know what all the fuss is about! :D

:Sprint:

MisterQ 08-12-2016 19:39

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35874639)
That's why you have three tuners. Get a V6 and you'll have 6, and if you opt for another in a different room, it'll be 12!

Don't know what all the fuss is about! :D

:Sprint:

No idea how that is relevant but never mind. Can't imagine why I would ever want 12 tuners! What a nightmare that would be with endless duplicates recording over and over in multiple rooms filling hard drives on a device I would very rarely want to use.

Paul 09-12-2016 00:12

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Its "Interesting" ? Someone must be very bored. :erm:

RichardCoulter 09-12-2016 00:54

Re: Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
I find it interesting as I didn't think that people would generally record live sport, I thought they'd want to watch it live.

There's been some interesting reasons thrown up as to why people do it.

OLD BOY 09-12-2016 07:54

Re: Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
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Originally Posted by MisterQ (Post 35874656)
No idea how that is relevant but never mind. Can't imagine why I would ever want 12 tuners! What a nightmare that would be with endless duplicates recording over and over in multiple rooms filling hard drives on a device I would very rarely want to use.

It is relavant because it is a positive comment about the V6, but of course positive comments are of no interest to you, it seems.

You may not have noticed, but there is a way of ensuring that you don't get lots of duplicates recorded. Incidentally, one helpful word of advice if you never use that facility - don't try recording Peppa Pig! :p:

Stephen 09-12-2016 08:13

Re: Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35874715)
I find it interesting as I didn't think that people would generally record live sport, I thought they'd want to watch it live.

There's been some interesting reasons thrown up as to why people do it.

As much as we would all like to be able to watch all sport live sometime work or family gets in the way so recording needs to be done.

RichardCoulter 09-12-2016 12:18

Re: Interesting that most people record live sporting events.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35874728)
It is relavant because it is a positive comment about the V6, but of course positive comments are of no interest to you, it seems.

You may not have noticed, but there is a way of ensuring that you don't get lots of duplicates recorded. Incidentally, one helpful word of advice if you never use that facility - don't try recording Peppa Pig! :p:

Do you mean manual recordings?

I've had to do this for two programmes because only a generic description is given by the broadcaster.

I found that selecting 'New Only' also picked up duplicates.

mike_gain 09-12-2016 12:52

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35874774)
I found that selecting 'New Only' also picked up duplicates.

That happens when the program data isn't sufficient to tell if it's new or not so TiVo records it anyway, presumably as a duplicate recording is better than not recording a genuinely new recording.

This happens a lot on kids channels where the programme data seems to be sparse at best. This lack of data can also cause the same episode to recording in the morning and and night as there's not enough data to tell whether a recording of a broadcast has happened in the last 30 days.

FX quite often put what I assume are placeholders in the shedule for 2 weeks in advance and then populate the programme data nearer the broadcase (you'll see lots of entries for the same programme on FX if you look 2 weeks in advance in planned recordings).

RichardCoulter 09-12-2016 15:08

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35874782)
That happens when the program data isn't sufficient to tell if it's new or not so TiVo records it anyway, presumably as a duplicate recording is better than not recording a genuinely new recording.

This happens a lot on kids channels where the programme data seems to be sparse at best. This lack of data can also cause the same episode to recording in the morning and and night as there's not enough data to tell whether a recording of a broadcast has happened in the last 30 days.

FX quite often put what I assume are placeholders in the shedule for 2 weeks in advance and then populate the programme data nearer the broadcase (you'll see lots of entries for the same programme on FX if you look 2 weeks in advance in planned recordings).

I've also found this to be the case with Comedy Central (and some others).

They tend to fill up the schedule with Impractical Jokers.

This practice by the broadcasters/Tribune, along with generic descriptions and no episode labelling make a mockery of the TiVo system.


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