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paulg 05-12-2016 17:40
The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
I've been a bit surprised by the lack of debate here about the new Telly Tablet (unless it's hiding somewhere and I just haven't found it). To me, it seems quite a tempting way of giving up a second Virgin box, and using it as a portable tv. Arguably, it doesn't offer that much that other tablets don't, but it's size - and HD capability, seem quite attractive. On the other hand, it's not cheap, though it might be worth it for me.

One negative, though, is that it doesn't seem to acquire its feed from the Tivo V6, but in the same way I currently use TV Anywhere on my iPad. The big downside of that, for me, is the one minute delay on the Sky Sports App, very irritating when I'm trying to keep up to date on a Test Match! Can anyone confirm whether I've understood this correctly?

Paul

martyh 05-12-2016 17:55
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Makes no sense whatsoever .Why not develop an app to use with an existing tablet like a Samsung,Apple or Fire .Sky have developed an app for both Android and iOS to use on Tablets and phones which take the feed from the Q box ,you can download onto the device and view anywhere .

RobboEdin 05-12-2016 17:58
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
AFAIK Virgin Media have developed an app that runs on both iOS and Android and allows download of recordings from V6 for offline viewing.

It's call the TV Anywhere app and that's what will be pre-installed on the TellyTablet.

MisterQ 05-12-2016 18:06
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
I'd prefer Sky proper multi-room tv any day. Tubbytablets might be ok for kids, until they get sat on or eaten by the dog and I prefer watching tv on a tv. (VM won't fix or support it like set-top-boxes!) TV Anywhere just seems buggy and badly written and full of errors and restrictions. If it is what you want you can get a 24" tv with android built in for half the price but then you still don't get the benefits of multi-tv and are gambling on whether Virgin will let it work with a third party product and whether tv anywhere does what you want it.

pip08456 05-12-2016 21:51
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Telly tablet - appeals to generation snowflake!

theone2k10 05-12-2016 22:43
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
It's probaly a android tablet worth £75 tops knowing vm but ppl will fall for the £299 proce scam i mean point.

paulg 05-12-2016 23:07
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35873921)
It's probaly a android tablet worth £75 tops knowing vm but ppl will fall for the £299 proce scam i mean point.
Do you know of a lot of £75 tablets with a 14" HD screen?

RichardCoulter 06-12-2016 01:51
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Just had a look and you're right, you can get really cheap tablets now, but not for 14" models.

Compared to the prices I saw, £299 doesn't seem bad at all.

If someone is happy to watch TV in this way it probably works out cheaper than paying a second TiVo installation and ongoing fee.

Personally, i'll stick with using my Samsung 10" tablet if I want to do this. The model I have is currently selling for £259, so when you look at it this way, another £40 for a 40% bigger screen isn't bad at all.

I say this as someone who scoffed at this when I first read about it, but if you're in the market for a large screen tablet it looks ok.

If you just want it instead of another TiVo, you might as well do as MisterQ says and buy a larger screen Android TV for half the price!

I wonder what make it will be though?

RichardCoulter 06-12-2016 20:27
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
I wouldn't buy one yet:

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterQ (Post 35874003)
Sounds like they are now charging people for the upgrade AND cancelling any loyalty discounts at the same time. I strongly suggest people check their forthcoming bills extremely closely if they want to be a part of this shambles. I would have suggested making a note of the person you speak to and made detailed notes/record the conversation but with VM it doesn't seem to matter as they seem happy to tell you anything and then charge differently down the line. I know from personal experience that they can agree an offer with you and then "change their mind" (their words, not mine) and charge whatever they like without letting you know and there is no comeback. Registering a complaint and asking it to be escalated for someone to call you back, just gets ignored, in my experience.

Seems like they are giving the tablets away for free to new customers, maybe they have realized there is no market for a 14" tablet (with VM restricted old version of android) when you can get much bigger tv's with android built in for the apps (for much less cost) - does TubbyTablet even have the means to remotely change volume/channel?
Taken from the V6 thread.

denphone 07-12-2016 05:48
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
You don't have to buy one Richard as no one is forcing you to buy one.:)

RichardCoulter 07-12-2016 17:50
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35874249)
You don't have to buy one Richard as no one is forcing you to buy one.:)
I know, I was just saying that those that want one may be better off waiting to see if they can get one for free.

Some more information on the Telly Tablet here:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/13...ly-than-tablet

OhReally 07-12-2016 18:08
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
So, if I'm BUYING this I am completely free to root it and do what I like with it then?

theone2k10 07-12-2016 18:36
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulg (Post 35873925)
Do you know of a lot of £75 tablets with a 14" HD screen?
Yes but you need to import them from china look on ebay, would i trust them though is a different matter.

However looking more into the specs of VMs tv tablet it doesn't look too bad in fairness still not worth £299 imo but if you're able to pay monthly via a contract which i think they're offering then £299 is a good price as if you got something similar on a credit agreement you'd probably pay a tad more than £299 anyway, however to buy outright i think £250 would be more suited but no need to argue over £49.

heero_yuy 07-12-2016 18:40
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35874420)
Yes but you need to import them from china look on ebay, would i trust them though is a different matter.
So I suppose the real question is VM's Telly Tablet a cheap Chinese import with a time expired OS or something better?

Kabaal 07-12-2016 18:42
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35874420)
Yes but you need to import them from china look on ebay, would i trust them though is a different matter.

However looking more into the specs of VMs tv tablet it doesn't look too bad in fairness still not worth £299 imo but if you're able to pay monthly via a contract which i think they're offering then £299 is a good price as if you got something similar on a credit agreement you'd probably pay a tad more than £299 anyway, however to buy outright i think £250 would be more suited but no need to argue over £49.
You're not getting a decent 14" tablet for £75 even from China. Even second hand ones from there you are talking £200+ for that size, and with lower specs.

broadbandking 07-12-2016 18:46
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
I would love one but not at £300

theone2k10 07-12-2016 19:54
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35874421)
So I suppose the real question is VM's Telly Tablet a cheap Chinese import with a time expired OS or something better?
VMs has marshmallow i think? it'll have the new os but it'll be coming soon.

BenMcr 07-12-2016 22:37
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35874416)
So, if I'm BUYING this I am completely free to root it and do what I like with it then?
Well you possibly could, but TV Anywhere would immediately stop working for watching TV via the app. I'd expect the same would be true for any other TV related app that Virgin come out with in the future.

Rooted devices are blocked from streaming and downloading.

theone2k10 07-12-2016 22:44
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35874453)
Well you possibly could, but TV Anywhere would immediately stop working for watching TV via the app. I'd expect the same would be true for any other TV related app that Virgin come out with in the future.

Rooted devices are blocked from streaming and downloading.
Also same with bt tv app any rooted devices are blocked by it, i suspect sky will be same too.

paultrademark 07-12-2016 23:38
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Does the TV Anywhere app run off 3G/4G yet?

BenMcr 07-12-2016 23:40
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
No not yet for TV Anywhere itself, but I see no reason why it won't happen at some point reasonably soon now that the update app is out for both Android and iOS.

No insider hints in the above by the way, it's purely my own view on where things are going and some replies I've seen in the comments in the Play Store saying it's being looked at.

Joedm45 08-12-2016 22:11
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Does anyone know if the TellyTablet uses up one of the two device slots for the TV Anywhere app?

If so then it makes the app even less 'Anywhere' if you can only have one other device to take out and about, Not great for a couple let alone a family.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate why it's limited as it will just be open to abuse with password sharing but I much prefer the Amazon prime video model where you can have multiple (possibly unlimited?) devices but only two can be used at the same time.

OhReally 08-12-2016 23:38
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35874453)
Well you possibly could, but TV Anywhere would immediately stop working for watching TV via the app. I'd expect the same would be true for any other TV related app that Virgin come out with in the future.

Rooted devices are blocked from streaming and downloading.
Don't particularly care about that, when they do an offer it could be a great way to get a cheap large general purpose tablet, stuff the tv on it :D

broadbandking 24-12-2016 09:00
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Okay got me sweet deal and should have mine coming today, just in time for Christmas a nice little pressie for me from me.

Mr K 24-12-2016 09:59
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Never understood tablets. You only have to prop them up to angle them right and attach a keyboard and maybe a mouse... ;)

Raider999 30-12-2016 09:33
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
I think tablets are supposed to be more portable than laptops.

They have pop-up keyboards so no problem there.

A mouse would be good as I have need to use a mapping website that needs one.

The general idea is they are smaller than a laptop - so a 14" one doesn't make that much sense.

Saying that, if someone were to give me one I wouldn't say no.

OLD BOY 30-12-2016 15:53
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
I have entered a competition for the Telly Tablet. I think it would save the expense of cabling into other rooms to receive TV wherever you are in the house.

However, I wouldn't pay £300 or anything like that for the privilege of having one of these. I think my wife would say that was a step too far!!

denphone 31-12-2016 09:02
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35878396)
I have entered a competition for the Telly Tablet. I think it would save the expense of cabling into other rooms to receive TV wherever you are in the house.

However, I wouldn't pay £300 or anything like that for the privilege of having one of these. I think my wife would say that was a step too far!!
Well we all know who wears the trousers in your household then OB.:D

OLD BOY 31-12-2016 11:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35878542)
Well we all know who wears the trousers in your household then OB.:D
Not really. I've managed to get a 4K telly, a £400 DVD recorder and 2 V6 orders in this year. However, I know when I'm pushing my luck!

spiderplant 31-12-2016 17:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35878564)
Not really. I've managed to get a 4K telly, a £400 DVD recorder and 2 V6 orders in this year. However, I know when I'm pushing my luck!
Well now you can tell her you won the TellyTablet ;)

theone2k10 31-12-2016 18:46
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35878564)
Not really. I've managed to get a 4K telly, a £400 DVD recorder and 2 V6 orders in this year. However, I know when I'm pushing my luck!
What you don't realise is she is making notes of these and soon a "i want that diamond ring" will be coming your way. :p:

RichardCoulter 31-12-2016 19:05
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35878396)
I have entered a competition for the Telly Tablet. I think it would save the expense of cabling into other rooms to receive TV wherever you are in the house.

However, I wouldn't pay £300 or anything like that for the privilege of having one of these. I think my wife would say that was a step too far!!
I think exactly the same way OB.

Do you have a link to the competition please?

OLD BOY 01-01-2017 11:19
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35878621)
I think exactly the same way OB.

Do you have a link to the competition please?
Sorry, Richard, we are passed the closing date for entries now. Maybe there will be more competitions or special offers from VM this year!

---------- Post added at 11:19 ---------- Previous post was at 11:18 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35878607)
Well now you can tell her you won the TellyTablet ;)
Fingers crossed!

Tricky Trevor 25-01-2017 11:58
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Trying to find a decent review on You Tube but the few that are on there are these stupid robot voices.

OhReally 25-01-2017 13:08
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35882095)
Trying to find a decent review on You Tube but the few that are on there are these stupid robot voices.
Maybe no real person actually bought one yet :shocked:

Tricky Trevor 25-01-2017 16:08
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Thats what I was thinking

OLD BOY 25-01-2017 17:11
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...And I didn't win one! :mis::bigcry:

RichardCoulter 19-08-2017 16:11
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
The price has now been reduced to £249.99, i'm not sure if the price has been reduced to shift them or if it's because the price of larger tablets is falling in general.

They are also offering one for £17 a month with some Smartphones:

http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/mobile/showtime.html

I wasn't sure who manufactured these, but this is only available with Samsung Smartphones, so maybe this is an indicator??

OLD BOY 19-08-2017 20:30
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35913296)
The price has now been reduced to £249.99, i'm not sure if the price has been reduced to shift them or if it's because the price of larger tablets is falling in general.

They are also offering one for £17 a month with some Smartphones:

http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/mobile/showtime.html

I wasn't sure who manufactured these, but this is only available with Samsung Smartphones, so maybe this is an indicator??
I think they are way too pricey for most people. When they come down to 50 quid, I'll think about it.

denphone 20-08-2017 06:22
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913324)
I think they are way too pricey for most people. When they come down to 50 quid, I'll think about it.
For once l agree with you OB.:shocked:;)

Tricky Trevor 22-08-2017 07:23
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
I'm sure I reada couple of weeks ago that they are now offering free Telly Tablet's on certain packages. No doubt for new customers and not loyal ones,

OLD BOY 22-08-2017 07:54
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35913617)
I'm sure I reada couple of weeks ago that they are now offering free Telly Tablet's on certain packages. No doubt for new customers and not loyal ones,
One of these days, Trevor, one of these days!

RichardCoulter 05-04-2019 15:51
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35913296)
The price has now been reduced to £249.99, i'm not sure if the price has been reduced to shift them or if it's because the price of larger tablets is falling in general.

They are also offering one for £17 a month with some Smartphones:

http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/mobile/showtime.html

I wasn't sure who manufactured these, but this is only available with Samsung Smartphones, so maybe this is an indicator??
Since making the above post, the price has fallen to £199. It's still available 'free' for £17 a month with selected Samsung smartphones.

Over two years ago, people commented that the original price of £299 (then reduced to £249) was too much. Would people be prepared to pay £199 for one?

https://www.virginmedia.com/shop/mobile/showtime.html

Hugh 05-04-2019 15:55
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
No

OLD BOY 05-04-2019 16:16
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35990151)
Since making the above post, the price has fallen to £199. It's still available 'free' for £17 a month with selected Samsung smartphones.

Over two years ago, people commented that the original price of £299 (then reduced to £249) was too much. Would people be prepared to pay £199 for one?

https://www.virginmedia.com/shop/mobile/showtime.html
Not me. It needs to be way lower than that, but I dare say that would be uneconomic for VM.

denphone 05-04-2019 16:23
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Not a chance of our household buying it.

esdxc37 05-04-2019 20:16
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
sold out due to high demand :rolleyes:

RichardCoulter 05-04-2019 20:33
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
That's interesting. I had assumed that they hadn't been much of a success with the price reductions, no new models and giveaways.

I wonder what they'll do for those expecting a free one with their new mobile phone?

Joedm45 07-04-2019 12:06
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Probably not too attractive now to anyone that has an interest in technology, 2 or 3 year old hardware is always going to be a hard sell at those prices even if the screen size is bigger than your average tablet

RichardCoulter 07-04-2019 14:17
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
That's what I was thinking. If It's been a flop, now that they have sold out, you'd think that they'd draw a line under it and remove all references to it.

However, if they deem it to have been a success, why haven't any new ones manufactured been updated??

Hugh 07-04-2019 14:53
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
Why don’t you ask your contacts?

RichardCoulter 07-04-2019 17:54
Re: The Telly Tablet - does it make sense?
 
If I think on i'll ask him next time I see him and update the thread (that's if he knows anything about this and there's an appropriate moment to talk 'shop' at a social gathering).


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