This just makes me sad......... No one cared enough to try and help this guy??

Its really very sad........

http://www.rt.com/uk/368862-homeless...istmas-england

Please try to help the homeless!

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I know it's not much but when I see a homeless person, I always go to a nearby cafe, Gregs etc and buy them a hot drink and something to eat.

RIP to this poor man, after all he was somebody's son and more importantly a human being. IMO no one deserves to live or die like this, it truly breaks my heart at what a sad and lonely world this is for some.

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Very sad indeed when you hear of these stories as what weenie says rings very true as although sometimes we moan about things sometimes its nowhere near as bad as many who are homeless as there are many many reasons why they became homeless in the first place and l just wish some in society would stop being so judgemental as any of us or our dearest and nearest could be in the same position given the wrong circumstances in their life.

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... and the vast majority of homeless people are men who the system generally places at the bottom of the pile when it comes to priorities for housing etc. especially after family breakups.

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Many get caught in a Catch 22 situation where bureaucracy beats them senseless and they just give up.

Ya its sad...... With all the empty houses around,why doesnt the county take some of them over and allow in the homeless??

Like a big family!

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I think a lot of homelessness is usually down to other factors. Mental illness, addiction etc rather than simply lack of space.

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Many hostels for the homeless have strict alcohol and drug rules and addicts would rather stay on the street than give those up. Sad but true. I don't know if that's the case here but it's often not so simple. :( RIP.

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I saw a video on Facebook it was a social experiment on how people deal with homelessness.

A guy sat on the pavement with a banner saying something like "Homeless need money for Alcohol & drugs", people gave him loads of money.

Then later he sat on the pavement with a young barefooted girl (daughter)lying on him. people just ignored them.

Except one, that was a homeless woman who gave them everything she had take that day. As she walked away he called her back explaining what he was doing.

He then gave her money back as well as $100.

Unfortunately homeless people have become invisible, I haven't seen any in my town, but I have seen loads in London.

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Speaking as a person who was homeless for 2 years (admittedly 20 yrs ago) the first thing I would say is do not under any circumstances give money to a "beggar". Most are professionals who make a good living out of preying on your conscience. Believe me, I know beggars that make £300 per day!

If you want to help contribute to one of the many drop-in centres where they can get helped.

I'm thankful for the help I got from a drop-in centre all those years ago, they not only helped me find accommodation but assisted me to have a different outlook on life.

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Yes and many hostels are violent places too so many people would rather take their chances elsewhere.

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Since August, seen a dramatic increase in the number of homeless people in Stevenage. Many sleep down in the doorways of banks or shops overnight. I know of one who sleeps in the doorway of Lloyds Bank and each morning the person who opens up brings them a cup of coffee or tea and a roll with a warm filling.

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Hard to think of the UK as a developed nation when a citizen can freeze to death when there is no shortage of places that for a minimal cost could house them and keep them warm.

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I can remember one beggar asking me for money for chips. I offered to buy him chips but he didn't want that.

Problems with "empty" housing stock is that they may not be safe or may be owned by absentee landlords using it as investment (or other reasons) so are not available to be used. And many homeless do need care as well as shelter.

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Unfortunately they've all been given to immigrants. A council house has just come up near us and I know people on the waiting list (some for quite a while), it's been given to Romanians...

...and "they" (left wing liberal elite) wonder why born here British resent the incomers.

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The "Points" system was abandoned in favour of the "Needs" system.

Thus anyone rolling up with a few kids usually gets the first available property, even if they have just arrived in this country and have never been on a waiting list here.

Add to that that the Bedroom "Tax" filling one-bedroom homes with singles or childless couples to allow 2 or 3 bedroom homes to become available for families of whatever origin, and you have an instant lack of one-bedroom flats or homes for the homing of the indigent.

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But in no way does that act as an incentive for people, migrants or otherwise, to have kids they can't afford to support... :rolleyes:

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Watch what happens after April when any new babies after the second one no longer get Benefits.

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I've seen plenty of documentaries where homeless people have been given houses only to give them up after a short while because they prefer to be 'off the grid' so to speak.Obviously this doesn't speak for all but don't assume that just because someone is homeless they want a house

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I'm sure there are some who become habitualised after a period of time sleeping rough but what a sad state we're in when we're allowing this to happen often so very close to the most huge wealth such as in C. London and our other major towns/cities.

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Shelter have a good simple article here as to why it people may be homeless: http://england.shelter.org.uk/campai...s_homelessness

I think poverty pays an obvious role but there seem to be so many other factors.

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Usually after the house has been stripped of anything that can be sold.:rolleyes:

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Yes i know some actually choose to be homeless we have such a guy in our town he's been homeless by choice for over 20 years and prefers it to being trapped as he puts it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get something in place in winter to prevent people freezing to death and quite a few homeless are former service people who are homeless for other reasons.

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http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news...d-10m-12288895

I suspect matters are going to worsen..

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Councils, like the NHS, are trying to rely more and more on charitable organisations. But the charities are tightening their belts too.

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Of course if we cancelled the £12 BILLION we give to foreign countries in terms of aid there would be plenty to go around.

The worse thing they could do!!!!!

Like we said THERE ARE ENOUGH VACANT BUILDINGS to turn some of them into shelters for these people!!! (Especially during the winter)