Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/upd...-city-centres/

I always wonder what stupid **** keeps finding a way of ripping of the road user.

We have the Congestion Zone in London. And now this ridiculous charge for polluting the air in Southampton
Maybe if local authorities made it easier to get round town, instead of introducing new ruotes.

We have a major problem where l live in Isleworth. They have closed a certain road. And have made matters ten times worse - bumper to bumper vehicles all day, An even our local MP supports the closure.

This is where the problems come in.

Local authorities should make life easier for the motorist - not worse and then penalise them

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Since when has a word, that l have ''used' is rude and needs to be bleeped

Re: Another way to make money out of us
 

Not just Southampton.
Also not a new idea.

Re: Another way to make money out of us
 

If it's good enough for the hell hole that is London, it's good enough for everyone else.


Have you considered public transport?

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

It's not ripping people off. It's about trying to protect the environment.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

LOL, The "environment" is just an excuse, to rip us off.

If they were really that worried they would not keep doing their best to hamper traffic - with bus lanes, bus only routes, narrowing lanes for bikes, lowering speed limits - all things that just cause more Jams, hence more pollution.

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Oh, and guess who will end up paying yet more for our goods, to cover the cost .......

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Well maybe they are trying to get people to leave cars at home and take buses or cycle then.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

No, they are trying to screw us for more money.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Sorry but i agree the "environment" is a great cover for fleecing people because if they were half as serious about it it wouldn't just be token schemes.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

I thought you cycled 8 hours a day Arthur?

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Um..
Leave your car at home, use a bus, or taxi ..... oh wait ..... :dozey:

Buses and bikes are not much use for delivering goods either.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

For once Mr K l find myself agreeing with you.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Don't use a high polluting vehicle then


Go electric lol

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

The london Emission Zone is responsible for introducing cleaner engines such as euro 6 if that had not been introduced then buses ,lorries and cars would still be using dirty smokey engines .As of 2015 all new cars must meet euro 6 standards so would be unlikely to attract any charges.It's not a scam it's a way to get manufacturers of vehicles to make cleaner engines and transport companies to use those cleaner engines

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Your confusing the congestion charge with the London Emission Zone ,totally different thing


LEZ

congestion charge

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Yes go electric

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33569460

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

That was July 15, have they not fixed that by now?

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Happy birthday Daddy! :D

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

It's about not having to pay fines imposed by the EU.

Odd that the traffic is often being diverted away from the places where the monitoring stations are situated..... :dunce:

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Hmmm... that's lot of pollution...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/12/10.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/12/11.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...on-street.html

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

And cause power cuts for everybody due to excessive demand.

It's about diesel vehicles only and might not include private cars.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Yeah they'd be the same diesel vehicles HMG was encouraging us all to buy but a few years ago in their quest against CO2. Odd how things change...

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Funny how fleets of knackered old diesel busses and trains churning out clouds of filth are never mentioned. Yet it's always Joe Public's own cars that are to blame. Still once a milch cow, always a milch cow. :rolleyes:

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

London it works well because the public transport system is present and runs "all" hours, covers large areas. It may be creaking but it is there. So charge people to drive in with appropriate exceptions. I always thought the charge should be higher than the public transport alternative. So if an average train and tube cost around £50 that should be the minimum congestion charge. (I know price can vary on distance/time of day, it's an example for distance you would drive in for the day, maybe back at time of introduction.)

Other cities don't have that public transport covering. And it's hard to get it in to the same extent. Why run bus/train when there are no passengers? Why use public transport that doesn't run when you need it, especially true if you don't work "standard" hours?

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

I don't get it, private cars, yes I understand, plus high emission performance petrol vehicles too, but to penalise commercial vehicles is just....

There's a reason why you don't see electric lorries or petrol ones for that matter.

Electric isn't yet advanced enough for anything heavier than a car, that's why anything bigger than a medium SUV and above is generally diesel. If they are going to cripple cities by penalising and perhaps eventually banning? (Paris, Madrid, Rome & one other I forget) are all considering this.

There better be one hell of a good electric tram/freight infrastructure in place so that businesses can get supplies etc.

Maybe we'll just make anything bigger than a village housing only and see how well that works out for us all.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

And me. :)

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Me too!

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Tesla Model 3 prices should be out soon. No need to buy the polluting, cheat device European stuff any more. Goodbye BMW, Audi, VW etc; we said we were Leaving.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

We had this in Leeds just over 6 years ago:

http://www.lowemissionstrategies.org...xhibition.html




Cheers


Grim

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

We all know the Europeans cheat!

Compensated US buyers but not UK ones. Another EU cheat?

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

I bought a diesel because I was told it's better economy and better for the environment, so I feel I should get some compensation as I have been mis-sold.

Electric cars are just as bad as the electricity come from polluting power stations, plus the batteries are just as bad to get rid of.

Also I couldn't charge it as I don't have a drive and I cannot guarantee parking outside my house thanks to the idiots who park work vans down my street and walk to the next street.

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

Kursk. I do cycle eight hours a dayin my job. But l drive a caar to work. All this is arip off by local council to raise funds.

The CC in London is a rip off any way. And everyone is London gets it.

When you go to a club, bar, cinema and a shop. They increase costs to cover the charge made by the delivery companies. So everyone Pays.

And when you park - you get ripped off by parking attendants.

I made a delivery in London, and it cost me a FIVER for about five minutes to deliver to a nearby shop - and that comes out the drivers pocket.

Even BT employ a guy to go and pay parking fines as Parking attendants target there vans, as they know they are on a winner

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

It cost you a fiver to park your bicycle?!!!

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

ha ha. No when l worked for a delivery company it cost me that. I work in Law enforcement now, and look after the vulnerable now. Best job l have had.

I see the side the government has forgotten. And with the freezing get worse. l see the vulnerable in the manner they should be in. I would rather have heat than food to survive. And it makes me weep, when l see them. And yet this pocksy Government doesn't give a damn abut them

Re: Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres
 

How can it be fixed, they're not up to the job by all accounts

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Thanks, 21 again