"Busy Tories" skew opinion polls
 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2...wrong-results/

So there you have it. Tories are busier and more sociable, hence harder to catch at home. Labour voters, on the other hand ... :D

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Labour voters? Well I'd imagine they're ashamed to go out after their succession of dodgy leaders culminating in what must be the worst of all, Corbyn and McDonnell. :D

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Personally I think the British public as a whole have decided to have some fun with nosy people with clipboards.

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So these are the educated professionals that we are supposed to listen to? What a load of BS. Seems to me more like polling companies trying to justify how completely wrong they got it so they can keep their business for next time around.

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Part of the reasons they're professions is that they try to see what they got wrong and how to improve in future. Professionals don't have the luxury of being as infallible as those who aren't experts.

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On the contrary, this comes from Prof John Curtice, of Strathclyde University, not a commercial polling organisation with a reputation to defend. It was his exit poll that correctly called the 2015 general election in the face of disbelief from every other pundit lined up on every election night special, and every opinion poll conducted prior to the election.

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He is also the head of the British Polling Council to which those polling organisations belong.

Exit polls are more reliable as they don't have to filter for likely voters, they're asking for how someone voted rather than how they will vote and they can narrow it down to constituency level rather than national vote share (which the exit poll doesn't do). The point behind don't be too harsh on the commercial pollsters because of the Exit poll.

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In other words tory voters are more likely to have a job and be at work whilst labour voters are more likely to be at home on job seekers allowance :D

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QED.;)

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It pretty much mirrors what we know about labour and tory MPs in general. Ex labour MPs tend to go and work for charities and the public sector whilst ex tories go back to private sector jobs.

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Exit polls are nearly always right on account of they only count actual voters just after they've voted. Prof. Curtice is no great Mystic Meg.

Being a Tory is embarrassing , always has been for anyone with a shred of decency . Its also likely a lot of the Tories are locked away in their secure accommodation, or too busy posting prattle on forums ;)

Personally I always opt out of marketing/phone calls/door knockers/surveys, and don't respond (nicely) to people shoving their clipboard in my face in the street. So that's another demographic they miss out on. Pollsters are now irrelevant esp. after the US election, they are just trying to justify their continued existence.

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HUH never had you pegged for a tory ,oh well live and learn :shrug:

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Go back to :confused:

Wonder if the reason they go to the private sector is to get the pay of for all their years of lobbying, one of Trump's policies iirc was to stop all that kind of stuff, it'd get my vote

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yes, have to admit I've never voted Tory (sorry if that's a shock and automatically puts me into the 'not we' section of CF ;) )

But then again I've never voted Labour. Just aswell I refuse to talk to pollsters, the poor sods would be further confused.

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I'm wondering what it is about me that I never get asked by anyone.

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The left is full hypocritical envious thugs.

Funny how students are always anti-Tory, then amazingly when they've finished their degrees and have a few quid they suddenly swing over to the right.

And there's the great socialist Labour MPs, all as bent as any Tory counterpart.

And then there's socialism itself, which has worked so well in every country that has tried it, it is now the leading system the world over.

Trust me, there is nothing more embarrassing than being a Corbyn supporter.

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That's not hypocrisy. People's circumstances change over time. Some people stay with their same political beliefs but others will change as they pay taxes, get a mortgage, a pension and so on. I mean the Tories tripled tuition fees and tripe-locked pensions. It's hardly surprising that students are more likely to go Labour and Pensioners are more likely to go Tory.

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And then as the self same students get older they turn into Tories, some even become Tory politicians!

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It's ben that way for decades.

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Be fair, it was the uni's that tripled the fees, the Tory's and the duplicitous Lib Dem's that went along with it, just took the cap off. ;)

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And also reduced the funding for the Universities as well.

When I graduated it was £1,300 per year, people graduating just a few years after then had to pay £9,000 a year. It isn't really fair.

The thing is I would accept the need for a graduate tax. I also am not sure how much the government should pay for higher education. It seems reasonable those who benefit pay for it and the government instead directs money at living grants for poorer students, especially since it's those living costs rather than the debt which would be greater barrier to them.

What isn't right though is that the 'much-needed' austerity is lopsided towards younger people. The triple-lock seems like rubbing salt in the wound. You could make an argument that pensioners should be protected from austerity cuts, they can't really work to overcome it, but to make a policy as expensive as the pension changes isn't justified when things like social care are being cut to the bone. :shrug:

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it was labour that introduced the fees in the first place
Then labour that tripled them the first time

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Why did the Uni's triple the fees? Oh, yes, because the government cut (or even removed) most of their other sources of funding.

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You may be correct but it may simply have been greed. I don't know, I'm sure it could be argued either way.

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[/COLOR]I worked at Uni's 9as a member of the Executive Board, so was actively involved in overall, as well as departmental, budgets, when this happened - when the fees went up, all capital monies and other funding (except research grants) stopped.

Universities were fiscally worse off - fees were frozen for a number of years, while costs/wages increased.