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Damien 17-10-2016 12:50

Russia Today bank accounts 'frozen in UK'
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37677020

Quote:

NatWest bank has frozen the accounts of state-run broadcaster Russia Today (RT), its editor-in-chief says.

Margarita Simonyan tweeted: "They've closed our accounts in Britain. All our accounts. 'The decision is not subject to review.' Praise be to freedom of speech!"

RT says the bank gave no explanation for its decision. It said the entire Royal Bank of Scotland Group, of which NatWest is part, is refusing to service RT.
Ofcom? The Government? Or just NatWest?

rhyds 17-10-2016 13:09

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I'd imagine commercial considerations by Nat West

Osem 17-10-2016 13:47

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"They've closed our accounts in Britain. All our accounts. 'The decision is not subject to review.' Praise be to freedom of speech!"
What does RT know about freedom of anything? If ever there was an entirely government biased media organisation RT would be the supreme definition of it.

The fact that RT is allowed to broadcast its unending torrent of pro Putin/anti west propaganda in the UK is proof that we enjoy a lot more 'freedom' than Russia does.

Damien 17-10-2016 13:50

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35864238)
What does RT know about freedom of anything? If ever there was an entirely government biased media organisation RT would be the supreme definition of it.

To be fair Russia is big on freedom of the press, it's just unfortunate that so many of their journalists as so careless near open windows and stray bullets...

Osem 17-10-2016 13:57

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35864239)
To be fair Russia is big on freedom of the press, it's just unfortunate that so many of their journalists as so careless near open windows and stray bullets...

Yes, they're particularly 'free' to broadcast what Putin tells them...

RichardCoulter 17-10-2016 15:47

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Sounds like our Government is sick of this propaganda being pumped into the UK. Doing this indirectly by getting NatWest to do this is probably more tactful in a volatile situation.

Allowing alternative viewpoints to air is one thing, but this is probably simply the mouthpiece of Putin and his lies.

RT only broadcasts on VM in the ROI.

Damien 17-10-2016 15:53

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So far it looks as if it's Natwest alone and they're free to move elsewhere.

RichardCoulter 17-10-2016 16:01

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35864253)
So far it looks as if it's Natwest alone and they're free to move elsewhere.

It'll be interesting to see if any other bank will touch this hot potato (even without any unofficial Govt. intervention).

Is RT on Freesat?

Media Boy UK 17-10-2016 16:03

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35864256)
It'll be interesting to see if any other bank will touch this hot potato (even without any unofficial Govt. intervention).

Is RT on Freesat?

Yes.

https://www.tvchannellists.com/List_...esat_(UK)#News

RichardCoulter 17-10-2016 16:20

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35864257)

Cheers MB :)

deadite66 17-10-2016 18:20

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Assange's internet killed
RT's account stopped.

Hilary's flexing her claws i see.

Damien 17-10-2016 18:33

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Originally Posted by deadite66 (Post 35864279)
Assange's internet killed
RT's account stopped.

Hilary's flexing her claws i see.

Maybe or maybe his internet is down? For a global conspiracy closing someone's accounts with 2 months notice and taking down their wi-fi is rather boring.

RizzyKing 17-10-2016 19:23

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The tinfoil hat brigade and delusional will be beside themselves with this news for the rest of us we won't care.

Damien 17-10-2016 19:28

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Anyway if Assange wants internet I am sure there is a Starbucks not too far, he should pop down.

deadite66 17-10-2016 19:55

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Days after the CIA is reported to go after Russia due to the embarrassing Clinton leaks Assange and RT take a hit.

CIA Prepping for Possible Cyber Strike Against Russia

https://twitter.com/danrolle/status/788019208453890048
Quote:

I've spoken with 14 other @wikileaks task force members who have also experienced internet/phone outage.
Believe what you want.

Damien 17-10-2016 20:01

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My Virgin Media has been up and down for weeks. I don't think it's a international conspiracy.

Mick 17-10-2016 20:15

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35864298)
My Virgin Media has been up and down for weeks. I don't think it's a international conspiracy.

Quite right but 33,000 missing emails belonging to HC, is, if Wikileaks have them.

Damien 17-10-2016 20:49

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35864299)
Quite right but 33,000 missing emails belonging to HC, is, if Wikileaks have them.

Wikileaks have always made a point that they put it in other places ready for revelation. Stopping his internet access wouldn't stop their release. He wasn't the person who hacked them so someone else would also have access and finally they're not the state department e-mails but campaign e-mails from her campaign manager.

He has been releasing them for weeks. He has been promising to release the 'big' thing for months now. Before the summer. Maybe he doesn't have anything.

Maggy 17-10-2016 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35864295)
Anyway if Assange wants internet I am sure there is a Starbucks not too far, he should pop down.


:D

Damien 17-10-2016 20:51

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RBS are now saying they've never issued it. That RT's letter is one they sent to a supplier of RT: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...unts-1-4260808

Mick 17-10-2016 21:28

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35864303)
Wikileaks have always made a point that they put it in other places ready for revelation. Stopping his internet access wouldn't stop their release.* He wasn't the person who hacked them so someone else would also have access and finally they're not the state department e-mails but campaign e-mails from her campaign manager.

He has been releasing them for weeks. He has been promising to release the 'big' thing for months now. Before the summer. Maybe he doesn't have anything.

* You're not telling me something I don't already know Damien.

I would not call their revelations they have released so far nothing, each one of them they have released makes her unfit to run for President but she was unfit before their revelations but here are just a few of them....

I would also not call the HC rigging the debates with Bernie Sanders nothing either. She was given the questions and the answers before the debates with him.

The so called paid for speeches with Goldman Sachs. This is not nothing which leads me on to the next one...

....Clinton has very different positions between public and private views on Wall Street reform.

Qatar, giving $1 Million to BC for his birthday, in return for special favors. Raises serious ethical issues regarding Clinton Foundation.

There has been many more revelations Damien, I am sure you can look them up, but don't let this put a dent in those rose tinted specs you have regarding HC, quite frankly you're as bad as the US mainstream media with your ignorance.

Damien 17-10-2016 22:01

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35864311)
There has been many more revelations Damien, I am sure you can look them up, but don't let this put a dent in those rose tinted specs you have regarding HC, quite frankly you're as bad as the US mainstream media with your ignorance.

I think it's unfair to call me ignorant. In another thread you refused to read links that were given to you to rebut some of the arguments you made but I didn't respond in such a fashion.

Anyway, the mainstream media has been covering the e-mails.

Here is a live blog of them from Politico: http://www.politico.com/live-blog-up...kileaks-000011

Here is the NYTimes reporting on one of her bank speeches where she said she would support covert action in Syria if it yielded results: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/17/us...ipt-shows.html

Here is the story, again from NYTimes, about the Qatari donation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/us...oundation.html

Here is the story, from CNN, about the town halls questions being 'leaked':
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/11/medi...eaks-question/
and the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.8f799a2847cb

These were not hidden stories. They've been covered by the 'mainsteam media' and I've read them because they're not hard to miss. Just because some website says they're not being covered doesn't mean it isn't true.

What is true is that the full e-mails do not match the headlines often given to them by Trump supporters.

Yes. Clinton seems to have been given at least one question in advance about the death penalty. It's bad and as the Washington Post says they shouldn't allow contributors associated with a campaign too close to the news production.

Yes Qatar offered $1 million for 5 minutes of Bill Clinton's time. Presumably to lobby for something. However it was for their foundation, not Clinton's personal bank account. We also have no idea if the offer was taken up. We do know however that Qatar are donators to the foundation anyway so this $1 million either came or didn't, but they would have donated elsewhere.

The biggest problem with the Foundation is the suggestion that donations were made in return for time with President Clinton. Which isn't going to cause a fuss. Or Hillary Clinton, which would. The latter would be worse.

All of these e-mails add up (so far) to Clinton being dodgy and political. She is open is lobbyists and politically calculating. It is however not going to be a surprise for anyone. I think it would have been a bigger deal had they not been released days after the video of Trump came out. You can thank our friend in the embassy for that. There is no smoking gun yet though, these are reaffirm what people don't like about Clinton but they don't have any big surprises or confirm some of the wilder theories.

However if that's what makes her unsuitable for office then, in addition to the Wikileaks e-mails, the mainstream media is a good source for looking at Trump as well. Since the Washington Post broke the story a while back that Trump used money from his charity to settle personal legal cases. That would actually be illegal. Why does that not disqualify 'crooked' Donald Trump?

Mick 17-10-2016 22:29

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35864316)
I think it's unfair to call me ignorant. In another thread you refused to read links that were given to you to rebut some of the arguments you made but I didn't respond in such a fashion.

Dead right I ignored irrelevant and a lot less than credible links, if we going to discuss fashions in how people tend to respond on here, you think just googling stuff and shoving it in my face makes it credible and worthy of a rebuttal ? Anyway, as for what makes HC unsuitable for office, I have covered this enough in that other thread you speak of, end of the day, I have already said DJT, is no angel, but HC is the devil compared to him.

Damien 17-10-2016 22:42

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35864324)
Dead right I ignored irrelevant and a lot less than credible links, if we going to discuss fashions in how people tend to respond on here, you think just googling stuff and shoving it in my face makes it credible and worthy of a rebuttal ? Anyway, as for what makes HC unsuitable for office, I have covered this enough in that other thread you speak of, end of the day, I have already said DJT, is no angel, but HC is the devil compared to him.

I googled some of the stuff. I have been following the Politico Liveblog and the NYTimes though.

I just brought it up because you told me I was as ignorant as the mainstream media for the things you listed when I already knew about them because they were in the mainstream media.

Mick 17-10-2016 22:50

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35864326)

I just brought it up because you told me I was as ignorant as the mainstream media for the things you listed when I already knew about them because they were in the mainstream media.

I only said that because it's how the way you put across that Wikileaks have yet to release the 'big one' and that they don't have anything and I am like thinking.... seriously ?

RichardCoulter 17-10-2016 23:53

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35864305)
RBS are now saying they've never issued it. That RT's letter is one they sent to a supplier of RT: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...unts-1-4260808

Quote:

Originally Posted by omnidirectional (Post 84260751)
That Scotsman article was from 16:32, the BBC article which was last updated 2 hours ago is still saying the accounts are closed and also includes a quote from Natwest saying the decision wasn't taken lightly.

It will be interesting to find out what actually happened.

RichardCoulter 27-10-2016 19:20

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Russia Today is currently off air and broadcasting a caption saying "scheduled maintenance GMT 9:00pm-7:00am" along with some music.

Damien 27-10-2016 19:37

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IT'S WAR!!?!!?

RichardCoulter 27-10-2016 21:24

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35866141)
IT'S WAR!!?!!?

I think something is afoot, it's highly unusual for a channel to go off air for hours due to "maintenance"!!

It's off air on satellite, not sure about VM Ireland & Freeview.

Damien 27-10-2016 21:27

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Probably is down for that. If it had been pulled we would have heard of it by now. RT are nothing if not hysterical at the slightest chance of pointing out Western hypocrisy. They tried to make an international event out of having to change banks.

Chris 27-10-2016 21:36

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Just as long as the Russian nuclear sub commanders don't have RT being off air for 10 minutes as a standing order to launch ... :erm: :D

Mick 27-10-2016 21:44

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It's not War. Hopefully... :erm:

http://news.sky.com/story/russia-doe...putin-10634571

Putin plays down the threat Exaggeration, he also dismissed claims by the US Government (and Hillary Clinton, sorry had to get that in there ;) ) the Kremlin is interfering with the US Election.

Damien 27-10-2016 22:01

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35866186)
It's not War. Hopefully... :erm:

http://news.sky.com/story/russia-doe...putin-10634571

Putin plays down the threat Exaggeration, he also dismissed claims by the US Government (and Hillary Clinton, sorry had to get that in there ;) ) the Kremlin is interfering with the US Election.

Well he would wouldn't he. He also said Russian soldiers weren't in Crimea, the passenger plane wasn't shot down with Russian equipment and it's purely bad luck that all his major political opponents end up dead or in prison.

Osem 27-10-2016 22:15

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35866190)
Well he would wouldn't he. He also said Russian soldiers weren't in Crimea, the passenger plane wasn't shot down with Russian equipment and it's purely bad luck that all his major political opponents end up dead or in prison.

Yes, Polonium-210 in your pot of tea is very bad luck indeed... :rolleyes:

Mick 27-10-2016 23:28

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35866190)
Well he would wouldn't he. He also said Russian soldiers weren't in Crimea, the passenger plane wasn't shot down with Russian equipment and it's purely bad luck that all his major political opponents end up dead or in prison.

I still prefer not to end up in a war with them though... :Sprint:

Maggy 27-10-2016 23:32

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Putin is just one facet of an ever increasingly insecure world..


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