Asda 'faces £100m equal pay fight' after tribunal case
 

http://news.sky.com/story/asda-faces...wyers-10616825

I think this is great news. I thin that supermarkets pay crap wages. And yet make lots of profits.

My son used to work for Tesco. And his wages were absolute rubbish, and yet the store was making lots of dosh.

I think thay they way that supermarket's look at it is. If you don't want the job, someone will take it.

It doesn't matter where you work, or where it is. You should get the same wages. Simples

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You think wrong. Their margins are tiny.

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Men and women were getting paid the SAME amount for the SAME jobs in the SAME type of workplaces.

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Arthur also forget's that Tesco staff get company shares year on year.

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I worked at an asda distribution depot years ago, there were plenty of women working there and the pay was pretty good but it's very different from working in a shop I'd imagine, harder and more skilled but that withstanding I've found on pretty much any issue that the view opposite of Arthur's is the correct position to adopt.

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Prior to having the silver spoon inserted into my metropolitan elite bottom I worked for Exel on their Tesco distribution contract. Picking orders in the freezer for 2 years. At least 165 items per hour picked, packed into cages, shrink wrapped and labelled, ranging from light boxes of ice cream through to 20kg boxes of chips, all in -30c. Obviously driving an electric vehicle to carry the cages on so that I could fill them.

I've also worked in a supermarket.

One of them was significantly more challenging than the other.

This all seems bizarre.

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Okay I missed this. Are you saying that all jobs should pay the same?

Re: Asda 'faces £100m equal pay fight' after tribunal case
 

In that case you should move to North Korea, that system works brilliantly over there.

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Whip round for his ticket? Let's see if we can get him over there first class :D

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First class would be offensive to Arthur coach will be fine.

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Seem an odd ruling.

Its not unusual for companies to pay differently at different locations.

Re: Asda 'faces £100m equal pay fight' after tribunal case
 

It's not merely different locations but different work environments altogether.

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From the lawyers pursuing the case.

https://www.leighday.co.uk/News/News...omparability-o

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Clever, the way they've stripped out all the obvious differences between a warehouse (very high shelves, fork lifts everywhere, cold, less desirable work location for nipping out for lunch, etc etc etc) and a supermarket. Employers can, and do, have to pay more to attract people to work in less desirable environments. The gender balance in the different workplaces is entirely incidental to this case and the lawyers have made another clanging great big generalisation in attempting to disguise this. If there are men and women in both locations, then it is trivially easy to establish whether Asda pays equally by comparing like with like.

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No ruling appears to have been made yet. There has been no announcement of the result of the 7 day hearing earlier this year (at least none I can find).

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There's a lot of difference between low physical-effort employment in warm and comfortable offices, or light cleaning jobs, and physically demanding roles in other (often harsher) conditions.

And that is why you will (often) find higher percentages of women in the former, and men in the latter.

Parity of pay in the former should be automatic, but not in the latter if you are not physically able to complete exactly the same tasks in the same time. But not all men and women are created equal, so there will be circumstances where your gender alone will not make you the best choice for the job.

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A lot of councils have been caught out by these kinds of cases. Birmingham City Council even had to sell off the NEC to pay for the massive back pay award it got lumbered with.

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In that specific case, the council tried it on by introducing a grading scheme which put home helps on the same pay scale as bin men, but then adding bonuses and attendance allowances to the bin men's contracts while not doing so for the home helps. The existence of the pay grading scheme pretty much settled the argument over whether home helps and bin men were doing work of equal value - clearly they were, or they wouldn't have been on an equal pay scale. It could yet cost Birmingham £1bn to sort all that out. Though apparently they have never explicitly admitted that the sale of the NEC was to cover it.

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Cardiff Council has been shedding jobs by the thousands. Some say it is to reduce the pension bill, others say it's because equality pay could almost bankrupt the city. All the lost jobs are going to private firms.

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The underlying problem was that the pay grading system didn't allow for DIFFERENCES. The jobs were very DIFFERENT, but it was impossible to pay differently using the simplistic local government pay grading system.

There was a case where 2 groups on the same pay grade were paid differently. The mainly men group had their annual pay cut to match the mainly women group. But as the men were expected to work LONGER hours on MORE days, their hourly rate was LESS. So much for equality.