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Damien 06-10-2016 13:03

UKIP's Steven Woolfe in hospital 'after altercation' - Serious condition
 
He is one of the favorites for the leadership.

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UKIP leadership hopeful Steven Woolfe was taken to hospital following an altercation at a meeting of party MEPs, interim leader Nigel Farage has said.

In a statement he said Mr Woolfe had "subsequently collapsed" and his "condition is serious".

Mr Woolfe, MEP for the North West, was taken to hospital in Strasbourg for tests.
:erm:

Bizarre. Hope is ok.

denphone 06-10-2016 13:05

Re: UKIP's Steven Woolfe in hospital 'after altercation' - Serious condition
 
Yes l hope and pray that he is okay as no one likes this to happen.

1andrew1 06-10-2016 13:14

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Poor guy. I appreciate that things can get heated but to end up in hospital is something entirely different. I wish him a successful recovery and am shocked by the news.

Damien 06-10-2016 13:19

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It seems there was a fight between him and another MEP as there was anger he had considered defection to the Tories but still not confirmed.

pip08456 06-10-2016 13:30

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35862134)
It seems there was a fight between him and another MEP as there was anger he had considered defection to the Tories but still not confirmed.

He recently said he was tempted to defect to the Tories after Theresa May took over, before deciding that Ukip was the only party that could ensure Brexit.

In a statement, he said: "Her support of new grammar schools, her words on social mobility and the growing evidence that she is committed to a clean Brexit prompted me, as it did many of my friends and colleagues, to wonder whether our future was within her new Conservative Party.

However, having watched the Prime Minister's speech on Sunday I came to the conclusion that only a strong Ukip can guarantee Brexit is delivered in full and only our party can stand up for the communities of the Midlands and the North."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7347896.html

Osem 06-10-2016 13:39

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According to Sky News just now, there was a dispute and a punch thrown by a fellow UKIP MEP and Woolfe staggered back and hit his head on a metal bar. He was apparently OK at the time, went on to cast a vote but then collapsed having felt unwell and lost the feeling on one side of his body.

The MEP in question is said to have 'gone to ground'.

Let's hope this doesn't turn out to be as serious as it seems.

Damien 06-10-2016 13:42

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35862145)
According to Sky News just now, there was a dispute and a punch thrown by a fellow UKIP MEP and Woolfe staggered back and hit his head on a metal bar. He was apparently OK at the time, went on to cast a vote but then collapsed having felt unwell and lost the feeling on one side of his body.

The MEP in question is said to have 'gone to ground'.

Let's hope this doesn't turn out to be as serious as it seems.


I've heard he was 'punched several times' and also 'went into a window'. No idea what's true at the moment.

It's very bizarre.

Jimmy-J 06-10-2016 14:11

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ITV have some photos of Mr Woolfe after he collapsed.

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-10-06/u...an-parliament/

1andrew1 06-10-2016 14:22

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More news here. Sounds like Steven Woolfe and his fellow MEP agreed to "carry the conversation on outside" and hit his head on a metal post when he was punched by fellow Ukip MEP.
http://news.sky.com/story/ukips-stev...ation-10607157

Said to be recovering now.
https://twitter.com/lbcbreaking

Osem 06-10-2016 14:24

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35862153)
More news here. Sounds like Steven Woolfe and his fellow MEP agreed to "carry the conversation on outside".
http://news.sky.com/story/ukips-stev...ation-10607157

Yes that's the account I was referring to above. Seems surreal really... :shrug:

Damien 06-10-2016 14:39

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UKIP saying he is conscious and recovering thankfully. Very weird though.

Osem 06-10-2016 14:41

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Let's hope so. :tu:

Damien 06-10-2016 14:55

Re: UKIP's Steven Woolfe in hospital 'after altercation' - Serious condition
 
He has released a statement saying 1) he's fine 2) being kept overnight as a precaution.

pip08456 06-10-2016 15:14

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Good result. It won't have made a good impression on voters though.

Mr K 07-10-2016 08:44

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UKIP will collapse soon, and the swivel eyed loons will crawl back to their natural home, the Tory party. Should be nice for the Ice Queen ;)

Hom3r 07-10-2016 11:14

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So who ever threw the first punch, should be sacked (perhaps both).

I mean I want to punch a few idiots I work with but if I did I would be sacked.

Osem 07-10-2016 14:14

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I've heard on the radio earlier that no punches were thrown and it was more a case of a bit of a scuffle with a very unfortunate outcome. I guess it'd be in the interests of some to portray it like that though so I'm still open minded... :shrug:

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The UKIP MEP involved in an altercation with Steven Woolfe has said he "categorically did not" throw a punch at his colleague.
Mike Hookem acknowledged he and his colleague had a "scuffle" in the European Parliament but insisted that he did not hit him.
"I am innocent," he told the BBC. "I never threw a punch. I never assaulted him. I will stand my corner."
UKIP's Steven Woolfe will be kept in hospital for a further 48 hours.
Thursday's incident is being investigated by UKIP and the European Parliament, where it has been announced the inquiry will be led by Conservative MEP Sajjad Karim.
There have been varying descriptions of what happened during what UKIP called an "altercation" and Mr Hookem told BBC Radio Humberside only he and Mr Woolfe knew precisely what went on.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37587814

Damien 07-10-2016 14:37

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Someone yesterday said that if he had punched him then why was there no mark on Woolfe?

Worth noting the reports of the 'punch' came from within UKIP. Something is going on.

Osem 07-10-2016 14:45

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35862361)
Someone yesterday said that if he had punched him then why was there no mark on Woolfe?

Worth noting the reports of the 'punch' came from within UKIP. Something is going on.

Punch to the body? Punched might have missed or just grazed him? Maybe more of a lily-livered 'slap' which missed than a proper punch? If I were going to punch someone the last place I'd choose is the head. In all likelihood there was no punch and I think it's going to boil down to the usual combination of Chinese whisper style confusion and exaggeration which often accompanies events like this. I can't see what anyone would have to gain by lying about this, even if they don't like either of the parties concerned.

martyh 07-10-2016 15:59

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Problem with UKIP is that they have no direction now .All those UKIP members would not normally be seen dead in the same room as each other ,the only thing uniting them has disappeared so now it's going to be a slaughter house

TheDaddy 07-10-2016 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35862361)
Someone yesterday said that if he had punched him then why was there no mark on Woolfe?

Worth noting the reports of the 'punch' came from within UKIP. Something is going on.

Punch on the chin or that sweat spot on your jaw just below your ear won't leave a mark, it'll knock someone out though

Mr K 07-10-2016 17:07

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35862384)
Punch on the chin or that sweat spot on your jaw just below your ear won't leave a mark, it'll knock someone out though

Wouldn't want to meet you on a dark night Daddy ;)

Obviously as kippers, their swivel eyes will have naturally unbalanced them. I reckon one accidentally opened a door in the others face, however the punch up story sounds less embarrassing....

heero_yuy 07-10-2016 17:23

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35862384)
Punch on the chin or that sweat spot on your jaw just below your ear won't leave a mark, it'll knock someone out though

Solar plexus is also pretty effective so I've been told.

martyh 07-10-2016 17:48

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35862396)
Solar plexus is also pretty effective so I've been told.

So's a smack on the bonce with a 3x2

heero_yuy 07-10-2016 17:55

Re: UKIP's Steven Woolfe in hospital 'after altercation' - Serious condition
 
Perhaps they should forget electing a leader and have a knockout boxing competition? :D

pip08456 07-10-2016 18:59

Re: UKIP's Steven Woolfe in hospital 'after altercation' - Serious condition
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35862403)
So's a smack on the bonce with a 3x2

A 4x2 is better as it has a higher tensile strength but.

Whether a blow was struck appears to be bye the bye, it is alledged (so far) that he hit is head on a rail. It may be a punch was thrown which he avoided but sent him off balance causing him to hit is head on said rail which caused his injury.

Will we ever know? I doubt it.

It is good that an enquiry is taking place but will it result in a cover up?


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