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Ramrod

18-09-2016 08:47

New York explosion

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bomb blast' injures 29 in Chelsea, with second device found in Manhattan

joglynne

18-09-2016 09:56

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I hope those injured by the pipe bomb are OK. The people who initiate these hateful acts are beyond contempt and don't care who they hurt.

The second, unexploded, devise is described as being a pressure cooker, as I use one of these at least a couple of times a week I will have to take more care but I guess it serves the purpose of an off the shelf pipe bomb. Scary.

Osem	18-09-2016 10:06

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I believe the Boston marathon bombs were pressure cooker based devices. Perfectly safe domestically but when packed with explosives...

Meanwhile there's been a multiple stabbing and fatality (the perpetrator) in Minnesota:

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At least eight people were wounded in a stabbing attack at a shopping mall in the US state of Minnesota, before the suspected attacker was shot dead by police, officials say.
The attack happened in St Cloud, 70 miles (110km) north-west of Minneapolis. The motive is unclear.
The suspected attacker reportedly made references to Allah before he was killed.
None of the injuries were life-threatening, local police said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37399862

Too early to say if these events were in any way linked.

Stephen

18-09-2016 11:24

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35859609)

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I thought both devices were found in Chelsea, which in in Manhattan?

Check the differing reactions from Clinton and Trump!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37399592

Trump clearly being an idiot as usual and Clinton being a lot more like someone who wants to run the country properly.

Ramrod

18-09-2016 11:53

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35859619)

Meanwhile there's been a multiple stabbing and fatality (the perpetrator) in Minnesota:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37399862

Too early to say if these events were in any way linked.

They are probably linked by the religion of peace.......

adzii_nufc

18-09-2016 13:26

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35859624)

I thought both devices were found in Chelsea, which is in Manhattan?

Check the differing reactions from Clinton and Trump!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37399592

Trump clearly being an idiot as usual and Clinton being a lot more like someone who wants to run the country properly.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I assume you meant 'in' so changed the quote to avoid confusion. But yeah, I thought the whole place was Manhattan Island and anything inside would be a borough of Manhattan.

Anyone wanting to know what these pressure cooker bombs look like

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experie...7d3f874a4b.jpg

http://imgur.com/a/JnES7

Quick key - Blue = Phone/Trigger
Red = Duct tape keeping the handle closed.
Black = Wiring and duct tape, wiring links to the phone.

martyh

18-09-2016 14:21

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35859624)

what's trump going to say if it turns out that it was an indigenous white American

Osem	18-09-2016 14:40

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35859638)

what's trump going to say if it turns out that it was an indigenous white American

I don't think he knows or his supporters care. I think he appeals to a lot of them because they feel, rightly or wrongly, that he 'says it like it is' and isn't PC obsessed.

Damien

18-09-2016 14:48

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No point speculating anyway. It could be Islamic terrorism, or far-right terrorism or just some other nutjob. We'll find out soon enough.

Osem	18-09-2016 15:50

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35859645)

No point speculating anyway. It could be Islamic terrorism, or far-right terrorism or just some other nutjob. We'll find out soon enough.

You're forgetting the 'government conspiracy' option.

denphone

18-09-2016 16:20

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35859645)

No point speculating anyway. It could be Islamic terrorism, or far-right terrorism or just some other nutjob. We'll find out soon enough.

I was a act of terrorism sadly but no evidence of international terrorism.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rolling-report

Ramrod

18-09-2016 16:34

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35859667)

I was a act of terrorism sadly but no evidence of international terrorism.

Why 'sadly'?

denphone

18-09-2016 17:09

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l think its rather obvious that no one likes to see these types of violent acts be they by a individual or by a group but sadly nowadays it seems to be happening a lot more then it used to.

Pierre

18-09-2016 19:56

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35859624)

I thought both devices were found in Chelsea, which in in Manhattan?

Check the differing reactions from Clinton and Trump!

Trump clearly being an idiot as usual and Clinton being a lot more like someone who wants to run the country properly.

What exactly did he say that was idiocy?

Stephen

18-09-2016 20:23

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35859688)

What exactly did he say that was idiocy?

Making people think it was a terrorist group or something when no facts were known at the time.

It could easily just be a mental white American than a member of IS or other groups.

Riling people up, telling them to get vigilant.

Ramrod

18-09-2016 20:32

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35859676)

l think its rather obvious that no one likes to see these types of violent acts be they by a individual or by a group but sadly nowadays it seems to be happening a lot more then it used to.

I misread that, sorry :dunce::D

Pierre

18-09-2016 20:42

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35859693)

Making people think it was a terrorist group or something when no facts were known at the time.

no he didn't

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Riling people up, telling them to get vigilant.

Riling them up? Every world leader tells their citizens to be vigilant

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24322498

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-overseas.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...y-9788497.html

No doubt they're just riling people up.

Hugh	18-09-2016 21:10

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I think it was the fact he mentioned it was a bombing before it had been officially confirmed..

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...explosion.html

Pierre

18-09-2016 21:22

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Well that wasn't the assertion to which I was replying. However, he was right.

If he was wrong then ok, open season, but it was a bomb.............

So what is it, Trump is wrong because he got it right?

Paul	18-09-2016 21:31

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35859706)

I think it was the fact he mentioned it was a bombing before it had been officially confirmed..

Perhaps he already actually knew, he'd likely been briefed before any "official" announcement.

Osem	18-09-2016 21:34

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Let's be honest it wasn't a difficult guess was it.

Stephen

18-09-2016 21:39

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35859709)

Well a bomb it may have been, still no idea who left it.

Trump jumping up and down stating people need to watch out and be vigilant, could cause inocennt people to end up injured if they of a certain religon or race.

The bomb could still have been planted by a disgruntled City employee or a total loon ball with a grudge against someone.

The fact that IS or ISIS still haven't come forward to say it was them, when the incident in a shopping mall where a number of people were stabbed has already been claimed by IS, says to me that it may not have been IS this time.

Pierre

19-09-2016 06:02

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35859715)

Well a bomb it may have been, still no idea who left it.

He didn't make any claims to who might of left it

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Trump jumping up and down stating people need to watch out and be vigilant, could cause inocennt people to end up injured if they of a certain religon or race.

I didn't see him jumping. I say again every world leader and security expert says we should vigilant in the current global climate, why is Trump wrong to say it.

It's ok when Obama says it though?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/barack-...isis-1.3372167

Or is he causing innocent people to be injured?......

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The bomb could still have been planted by a disgruntled City employee or a total loon ball with a grudge against someone.

The fact that IS or ISIS still haven't come forward to say it was them, when the incident in a shopping mall where a number of people were stabbed has already been claimed by IS, says to me that it may not have been IS this time.

It may not be, it may be - we don't know. Some people have been arrested we'll find out.

It was a bomb, it was an act of terror, it does appear to a group not an individual.

What group it was is really irrelevant.

Maggy

19-09-2016 08:02

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...MCNEWEML6619I2

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Five suspected explosive devices have been found in a backpack near a train station in New Jersey as the security alert gripping America ratcheted up in the wake of the Manhattan bombing.

One of the devices exploded when a bomb squad robot tried to disarm it near Elizabeth train station, Associated Press reported the local mayor as saying.

Christian Bollwage said that the device exploded shortly after 12:30am on Monday. The FBI was leading the investigation and working to disarm the other four devices.

Damien

19-09-2016 08:02

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The whole thing is very weird. They seemed to know very early it was not 'international terrorism' - whatever that limits it to - but we still don't know who did it.

Damien

19-09-2016 13:35

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They named someone: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-phone-reports

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New York police have named a suspect in the bombing that injured 29 people in Manhattan on Saturday night, as officials backtrack from initial claims that the attack did not have a “foreign” connection.

Ahmad Khan Rahami, a 28-year-old naturalized US citizen born in Afghanistan, was identified by authorities as a suspect on Monday morning.

The investigation “might suggest a foreign connection to the action, which would then obviously raise an issue of the foreign nature of this attack”, New York governor Andrew Cuomo told CNN.

Pierre

19-09-2016 13:37

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Amad Khan Ramadi, a naturalised American originally from Afghanistan.

Is the main suspect. Others may follow.

Or.........it could just still be a disgruntled council employee.

Damien

19-09-2016 14:03

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35859749)

Is the main suspect. Others may follow.

Or.........it could just still be a disgruntled council employee.

Well he still could be. ;) Albeit it's unlikely.

joglynne

19-09-2016 16:11

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Ahmad Khan Rahami arrested

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/ny...hami.html?_r=0

adzii_nufc

19-09-2016 18:00

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The reason the second device failed to detonate was apparently due to two thieves attempting to steal it and unknowingly disarmed it. That's why the bag was removed.

The suspect has been arrested 10 minutes from a police station and barely moved an hours journey from the site.

Its a worrying sign though. If this is what an incompetent terrorist can achieve...

Osem	19-09-2016 18:32

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The sad fact is that no special equipment, knowledge or expertise is required to cause mayhem in our society - e.g. vehicles driven into crowds, cans of petrol ignited within large buildings, laser devices used to blind pilots, the emergency services, motorway drivers etc. etc. etc.

Pierre

19-09-2016 18:53

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I bet trump feels such an idiot..............

adzii_nufc

19-09-2016 19:04

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He's too busy laughing up Clinton's re-opened email scandal

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...without-trace/
Seems like as soon as they're buried, something else drags them back up. Although this one could be a lot more serious if they can without doubt link the male in question. http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...eddit-for-tips

Starting to pick up, major news corps will seek proper verification though as it could turn sour, it's not like Reddit ever donned a cape and became vigilante in the past (Boston Bombings)

Then again, I don't think Trump cares, he'll use the dirt any way it comes. Fact or fiction or even just plain opinion as he's done regarding health claims.

On topic then and I feel like this bomb stuff isn't quite done yet. Just get the feeling there's something more to come, failed or not. How long before we have to deal with fringe lunatic's like this here that are going to head a step further than just a knife? All this has done is inspire the next idiot to do better and shown it can be done.

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