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bolgerp 14-09-2016 12:24

Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Hi all... I was wondering if anyone has used the Sky Q service alongside Virgin 200M Internet and Superhub 3 and if you have any experience/tips/hints to share? I am considering changing my TV service from VM TiVo to Sky Q. I was talking to a friend yesterday who has installed Sky Q with a different internet provider (also fibre). He said that it should work fine with Sky Q and a secondary internet provider. What I didn't realise is that you also need a Sky provided "Hub" to connect the Sky Q box and any Sky Mini boxes that you might have. Stupidly, I thought the Sky Q box would "talk" to the Sky Mini box through the Wi Fi network, which I thought would be great as my VM Superhub 3 is outstanding and gives me excellent speed and connection all through the house... even out to the end of the garden.

It seems this isn't the case. As I understand it, Superhub>Sky Q>Sky Hub>Sky Q Mini. I may have got this wrong though...

Is there anyway to avoid using the Hub as I have heard the signal strength isn't that strong from the Sky Hub and I'd like to avoid using boosters.

Many thanks in advance...

Stephen 14-09-2016 14:55

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
No the Sky Q and mini will connect over wifi.

The only thing that won't happen if you use a different Internet provider is the Q boxes won't act as wifi repeaters nor will the built in powerline feature work.

yorkshireborn 15-09-2016 06:28

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
i have SkyQ and miniQ and vivid 200meg but I have the SH2

I have no problem with wifi connections but as Stephen said the mini Q does not act as a wifi extender. I have no sky hub as you only get this if you take sky broadband.

bolgerp 15-09-2016 06:59

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Excellent.... thanks both. I'm not worried about the wifi repeater/powerline piece as my Superhub gives me excellent coverage all throughout the house so no need for them... many thanks for the info!

martyh 15-09-2016 18:35

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
might be worth pointing out that Sky have just introduced Sky fibre max with speeds up to 76 Mb

Stephen 15-09-2016 20:15

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Only years after most other fibre providers.

martyh 15-09-2016 20:22

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35859352)
Only years after most other fibre providers.

i'm not sure if this is as well as or instead of Sky fibre pro .There are differences ,mainly the price but i can't see any details of it's a replacement or not

Stephen 15-09-2016 20:24

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Pro has now gone.

bolgerp 16-09-2016 07:33

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Unfortunately, no Sky Fibre in my street! Which is odd as I can get 200 VM and 350 BT.

Stephen 16-09-2016 07:42

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Well VM is on their own network and perhaps Sky don't have any access in the local cabinet.

muppetman11 17-09-2016 14:33

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bolgerp (Post 35859389)
Unfortunately, no Sky Fibre in my street! Which is odd as I can get 200 VM and 350 BT.

Over 300mb with BT that's clearly FTTP rather than BT's fibre to the cabinet.

Stephen 17-09-2016 16:02

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
If you can get 300Mb off BT then surely you can get normal FTTC?

Skie 17-09-2016 19:11

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Not necessarily. Might be a new estate that only has the infrastructure for FTTP in place. Doubt they would bother installing cabinets to provide a worse service in an area.

Ignitionnet 18-09-2016 19:00

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
There is pretty much nowhere that has both FTTC and FTTP from BT. If you've spent all the money on getting fibre directly into houses no point in spending some more to build cabinets to deliver a maximum of 1/4th the performance.

Stephen 18-09-2016 19:07

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
I've seen some areas with both.

Pierre 18-09-2016 20:23

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35859340)
might be worth pointing out that Sky have just introduced Sky fibre max with speeds up to 76 Mb

Oooooooh!

Paul 18-09-2016 21:32

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
£5 a month more than the 38Mb service.

Ignitionnet 19-09-2016 08:51

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35859684)
I've seen some areas with both.

The only premises with both are either:

1) Where FTTC doesn't work, line is too long, and BDUK programmes have subsidised rollout of FTTP to some premises on the extremes of cabinet coverage.
2) The odd premises where the owners have paid for FTTP on Demand, but only that one premises has FTTP, it's not available to others.

I'm not aware of any substantial areas with both. There might be an alternative FTTP network available but not both from BT to any volume. Spending 20 grand on a cabinet then a grand per premises delivering FTTP on top isn't great business sense.

bolgerp 22-09-2016 09:55

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
I'm not sure if I have fibre to the property or cabinet, I must say.... when I was about to move into our new house, I went onto the BT website and did the checker to see what options I had... 350MB was available. There is a BT exchange literally 2 minutes walk from my house... perhaps that has something to do with it?

---------- Post added at 10:55 ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 ----------

I just redid the check... and it's still showing as 300MB (apologies, not 350).

Stephen 22-09-2016 10:02

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
that is fibre to the premise

bolgerp 22-09-2016 10:12

Re: Sky Q and Virgin 200M Internet
 
Cool.... didn't know that!


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