Apple Ditches Headphone Socket in iPhone 7
 

So the rumours were true ....

http://news.sky.com/story/apple-unve...one-7-10569218

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£119 for wireless "air pods" .....i don't think so :rolleyes:

wonder how much they charge for the adaptor to connect traditional ear phones

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Nothing. There is one in the box with the phone.

However I am sure the UK price is going to be £159

Also the ear buds that come in the box connect by lightning connector.

There are better and cheaper Bluetooth headphones out there.

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Read between the lines of the whole thing. This is solely to receive licencing fees from the various companies that will now develop third party connectors or audio hardware designed for this phone. Apple being Apple. What's new?

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Our twins dumped wired headphones/earphones years ago and changed to bluetooth. And my daughter's phone recharges without a physical connector, plus the battery is sealed inside.

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Seeing as Apple are the third manufacturer to ditch the 3.5mm jack this year, I'd say it's more likely to be part of a general trend away from its use. The socket for the jack is a void inside the phone's casing that is a waste of space except when in use (and there are a lot of people who don't use their iPhone for playing music).

Plus, they're including a lightning-3.5mm adaptor in the box so they're hardly pushing people to buy wired headphones with a lightning connector are they.

This is part of a long running philosophy at Apple anyway. They ditched the 3.5" floppy drive and serial and parallel ports from their computers long before any other high street pc brand.

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Apple...

Not quite what they used to be.
iPhone 7 so many leaks, it's as well jobs is dead he'd have been livid. :clap:

Apple could have deflected the no jack thing by simply including Wireless charging of the phone. You know that thing Androids been doing for years. It would at least have stopped the charging phone or listening to my el crappo lightning port headphone jack add on dilemna.

Not everyone wants or likes bluetooth speakers/headphones, apart from the fact that now you have yet another thing to charge up, the quality is never as good as a good wired headset.

Still nevermind, if Apples waterproofing is as good as the thickness of the metal used in construction [bendgate] or the placement of wi-fi antenna in the phone [antennagate] then shortly I'm sure we'll have WATERGATE :D

That'll stop people stressing over the headphone jack.

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Well, at least they don't explode...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...anes/90115874/

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Bluetooth would still work. As would anything using the adapter but lightening or their W1 chip will probably require licensing.

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The leaks were almost certainly intentional. Apple PR clearly leaked the headphone news ahead of time to soften the impact of it's removal. The backlash isn't nearly as bad as it would have been had it not been known in advance.

I think the metal they use the phone hampers the wireless charging and they're unlikely to use plastic. The rumour is they're working on 'true' wireless charging which would not require connection to the pad or what have you, just being in the vicinity of the charger. Although I do think they should have had wireless charging already.

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I'd agree if the leaks were only headphone jack, the phone sites I frequent have practically given the whole specs away long before it was released.

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Well some of them yeah. They didn't get the info on the A10 chip though.

Apple won't be able to be as secretive as before due to the sheer amount of phones they need to make. They'll have to ramp up months before release and enviable they will be a lot of leaks.

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Pretty rip off prices in the UK, compared to the US (for all iPhones).

Their "exchange rate" is about 1.07

iPhone 7 Plus $769 > £719 (1.07)

iPhone 7 $649 > £599 (1.08)

iPhone 6s Plus $649 > £599 (1.08)

iPhone 6s $549 > £499 (1.10)

iPhone SE $399 > £379 (1.05)

Blaming "Brexit" is just an excuse IMO, the dollar exchange rate is 1.32 atm.

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Dollar prices tend to appear much lower because they don't normally include sales tax, unlike UK prices which by law have to include VAT.

They probably are still cheaper in the USA, but not by quite as much as it first seems.

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Do something controversial and dress it up as a bold technical step forward and hey presto! everyone's talking. The buzz generated gets the product into heads even those who think it's a load of old cack.

Far less people would give a stuff if Apple released just another iPhone with a few upgraded bits inside.

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Oh like most years then.

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No wires so they will fall out in the wrong place and be lost.

another poor decision by apple

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I would say to price them up for the UK, change the $ to a £ and add £100

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Not a big deal, I've been using my beats Bluetooth headphones for ages.

Even little Pierre jnr has a set of Bluetooth headphones for his IPad that I got from toysrus

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I had no idea all Androids have had wireless charging for years, an you do realise Apple is a Manufacturer of hardware. Android is Googles mobile operating system don't you?

It's hard to compare Android to Apple, baring in mind Android is available on over 5000 devices priced from £9.99 to £3999, from phones , to set top boxes , to TV's , from over 200 manufacturers. I never understand why anyone would compare Android (an OS) to Apple (a company) Android compared to iOS works I guess. Or Google to Apple, but not Android to Apple lol. But then I guess not everyone is as tech savvy as me.

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stop being annoying. He never said all Android phones. Also he was refering to Android as an OS and the hardware that is obviously given with it.

Also ignoring the other stuff it's more the flagship devices. The rest of us understood that.

So yes we can compare Apple to Google cause they do their own hardware in terms of the Nexus line which yes is made by other companies but to Google's specifications.

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Do I think losing the headphone socket is a good idea? No. Not from a consumer point of view. I can see the advantage for Apple (leaves a fair amount of space for other devices), but for the consumer, it increases wear and tear on the one port available on the phone, so if that port is damaged, the user may not be able to charge the phone (the iPhone 7 does not support wireless charging). I had this problem with my old HTC Tytn.

That said, I went out and bought a decent set of bluetooth headphones that while they look a little like old school hearing aids (the ones that hang over the back of your ear), they sound brilliant (which, for me, is the main thing), so assuming I upgrade to an iPhone 7 next year, I won't have to use any adaptors or buy Air Pods. While I can upgrade from November, I've not been that impressed with Vodafone, so want the freedom to move to a new carrier, so need to wait until February.

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I realise many things, including how not to run my mouth off when I've only been here 5 seconds, stop being pedantic.

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:D:D:D

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The name might have changed (after being banned - again) but the missing 'd' off the word and is such a give away. I wonder if he'll last longer than RBMark did ;).

Cheers

Grim

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The only apples we have here are the ones you can eat. :)

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Indeed. See here.

I already realised, I'm sure hes feeling really miserable atm ;)

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Benchmarks are in, they're very good: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-7...ews-23474.html

Apple making their own chips is paying off. I suspect they'll eventually look at putting these in their lower end laptops as well.

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I see the Note 7 is conveniently missing.

I fread reviews it was far superior to the i7

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The Note 7 uses the same chip as the S7. Last years iPhone beats the Note 7:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhon...e-test_id84387

and look at the Ars benchmarks: http://arstechnica.co.uk/apple/2016/...7-review/5/#h2

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/09/6.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/09/7.png

It's a blowout.

Even without the benchmarks though the day to day use is a problem for Samsung: http://www.xda-developers.com/with-t...d-performance/

Apple's A chips outpace anything in the Android market at the moment. Apple use it across their (high-priced) range and even their lower end options will use the previous year's chips. That level of scale and investment is a massive benefit.

They're even more powerful than many of Apple's laptop range. Whatever you think of Apple the development of their own chipsets is one of the most interesting things happening in technology at the moment. Since the 5S they've been getting huge leaps in performance. Next year they'll be able to drop the 5S and make iOS 11 fully 64bit. With every supported platform being 5S or above then Apple and developers can target very capable platforms.

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doesn't the note 7 blow up ?

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To be fair the prices in the US exclude sales tax as well - so you should either add 15-20% on to the US prices, or deduct 20% from the GB prices to compare like with like..