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Chris 28-08-2016 17:12

Smart TVs with catch up service apps pre loaded
 
I'm looking to replace our TV with a smart tv so we can get the BBC, ITV C4 and C5 iplayers without mucking about plugging peripherals or a computer into it.

However the more I read the more opaque the subject gets. Often a manufacturer will say their product supports BBC iplayer or even has it built in already, but then customer reviews say it isn't.

Has anyone got one of these they're happy to recommend? I'm looking for full HD, 32" to 40" (absolutely no bigger), with at the very least BBC iplayer preloaded (but preferably all of them).

Chrysalis 28-08-2016 17:49

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I would consider it a way to waste money, tv's tend to have a £100 premium to be a "smart" tv and can vary a lot.

My sister's samsung seems to have a lot of apps like netflix, iplayer, 4od, lovefilm etc. over 20 on the selection screen

Whilst my parent's panasonic is really basic has iplayer, itvplayer, but no 4od no 5od and no lovefilm, does have netflix tho. has 6 to choose from.

I cannot say a specific model, but just highlighting the lottery.

Taf 28-08-2016 18:28

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My son bought a cheap HD receiver from Tesco that does all those "smart" things for a fraction of the price.

http://www.tesco.com/direct/manhatta...skuId=320-7521

Chris 28-08-2016 21:10

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We have no terrestrial signal here and in any case it's the screen on our old tv that needs replaced.

Taf 29-08-2016 08:54

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HD Freesat? Tesco do a box for that too.

BenMcr 29-08-2016 09:38

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The Samsung TVs are usually a good bet as they normally cover them all. It would make sense to look at last year's models though as they'll be cheaper and it's more likely that the apps will be there.

I don't think all the apps are there yet for the 2016 models although they will arrive

Chris 29-08-2016 09:55

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None of Samsung's 2016 sets are listed on the BBC iPlayer support pages as being certified. There is a nice 2015 model with curved screen that is certified and well spoken of in reviews but getting hold of one is tough - almost everywhere is sold out, I suspect permanently.

I have been looking at an LG model this morning, but this is one of the ones that is ambiguous when it comes to iplayer support. I am reading suggestions that a firmware upgrade last month enabled iplayer. I think there's a reasonable chance that stock already held by retailers won't have that firmware already and will require an upgrade immediately on setting up.

1andrew1 29-08-2016 11:47

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If a TV has YouView (Sony) or Freeview Play (Vestel, Panasonic) then it will have all the PSB catch-up services on it. These services are relatively recent so it has been a bit of a lottery until their introduction, particularly when people got used to apps which then were removed or no were longer supported. The fact that Vestel are now starting to ship TVs with Freeview Play on them should put pressure on all other manufacturers to do the same or opt for YouView.

Chris 29-08-2016 14:46

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Yep ... the problem with that is that the first time you set up a Youview TV you need to connect it to a terrestrial aerial, even if you subsequently plan only to use it with a satellite decoder and an Internet connection. As we have no terrestrial service here I can't set up a Youview TV. Otherwise one of the new Sony Bravias would have been quite nice.

Hom3r 29-08-2016 15:46

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We have a 32" 3D & a 40" Samsung smart TVs, both support iPlayer without issue.

I even can stream to my TV via PC, phone & tablets.

1andrew1 29-08-2016 16:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35856493)
Yep ... the problem with that is that the first time you set up a Youview TV you need to connect it to a terrestrial aerial, even if you subsequently plan only to use it with a satellite decoder and an Internet connection. As we have no terrestrial service here I can't set up a Youview TV. Otherwise one of the new Sony Bravias would have been quite nice.

Could you get the shop to do that ? They would get your custom.

heero_yuy 29-08-2016 17:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35856493)
Yep ... the problem with that is that the first time you set up a Youview TV you need to connect it to a terrestrial aerial, even if you subsequently plan only to use it with a satellite decoder and an Internet connection. As we have no terrestrial service here I can't set up a Youview TV. Otherwise one of the new Sony Bravias would have been quite nice.

We have a 42" LED Bravia and it's a fine set. Built in satellite receiver too. The current Bravia's use Android (Linux) so that apps store is available IIRC. Ours uses an earlier flavour of Linux so the apps are preset but most are there including Netflix and Youtube. (4od and 5 are missing:()

With any flat screen TV the sound is reedy at the best so you'll probably want to add a subwoofer as a minimum or run it through a Hi Fi. We have a vibe 100 watt unit.

Chris 29-08-2016 19:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35856520)
Could you get the shop to do that ? They would get your custom.

I'm almost certainly going to buy it online. In any case, I can't saddle myself with something that would instantly become useless should it ever require a factory reset (until I can drive it to visit family and plug it into their aerial)

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35856528)
We have a 42" LED Bravia and it's a fine set. Built in satellite receiver too. The current Bravia's use Android (Linux) so that apps store is available IIRC. Ours uses an earlier flavour of Linux so the apps are preset but most are there including Netflix and Youtube. (4od and 5 are missing:()

With any flat screen TV the sound is reedy at the best so you'll probably want to add a subwoofer as a minimum or run it through a Hi Fi. We have a vibe 100 watt unit.

We have audio issues on our existing TV so it has been sat on top of the hi fi for years. Any new one we buy will just plug straight in, so I'm not even bothering to check the audio quality of whatever we buy.

Uncle Peter 31-08-2016 12:08

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We have two Samsung series 6 TV's in the house (one's a 2015 model and the other one is a few weeks old) and they both run iPlayer, 4OD, ITV On demand without any problems whatsoever.

They also both support airplay from the current version of ios which is very handy providing you're beaming to the right TV ;)

BenMcr 31-08-2016 12:35

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Have you got the model numbers?

Uncle Peter 31-08-2016 14:53

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Originally Posted by benmcr (Post 35856918)
have you got the model numbers?

ue32h6400 (fhd)

ue49ku6400 (uhd)

BenMcr 31-08-2016 14:58

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The 'H' series is actually a 2014 model. The 2015 series are the 'J' series TVs.

Saying that, it's good that the 2016 'K' series has all the apps already.

Uncle Peter 31-08-2016 15:43

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The smaller one was bought in the middle of last year so makes sense yep. It has most of the apps that the new one does though at least all of the ones we actually use in this house. Cracking picture on both, cant fault them.

One thing that did annoy me a bit was that Samsung seem to be doing away with RCA outputs. Given that the TV in the lounge runs through the hi-fi amp I had to buy a DAC to continue using it.

Chris 31-08-2016 17:12

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How do you find the UHD set at rendering an SD source?

Uncle Peter 31-08-2016 17:41

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35856986)
How do you find the UHD set at rendering an SD source?

Probably as good as it's going to get given the screen size and the fact that some of the older, SD content broadcast on Sky isn't the best quality to begin with. Having said that it's significantly brighter, sharper and more vivid than the TV it replaced which was a 4-5 year old LG 42" thing.

To be honest we've not actually watched any 4K content yet but given that the price wasn't that much more than similar models which were just HD it made sense to future-proof as more UHD content starts making it's way onto Netflix etc.


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