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Damien 17-08-2016 15:39

[UPDATED] Team GB beats London 2012 medal haul
 
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ecord-overseas

Good news for once! :D

Osem 17-08-2016 18:31

Re: Great Britain set new medals record for overseas Olympics
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35854537)

Brexit was good news so this is twice. ;)

denphone 17-08-2016 18:59

Re: Great Britain set new medals record for overseas Olympics
 
Perhaps our footballers need to learn from our Olympics heroes as they have well and truly done this country proud in Rio.

Damien 17-08-2016 20:01

Re: Great Britain set new medals record for overseas Olympics
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35854586)
Perhaps our footballers need to learn from our Olympics heroes as they have well and truly done this country proud in Rio.

You don't have to turn it into a negative. The Olympic team is an achievement on it's own.

Football is different, highly competitive and the players don't get relative peace and quiet in-between the major international competitions.

denphone 17-08-2016 20:18

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Its not a negative at all as the fact remains that our Olympians know how to win wherever our international footballers don't and if they could learn from our Olympians in quite a few different facets then they would do a awful lot better.

Damien 17-08-2016 20:54

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35854598)
Its not a negative at all as the fact remains that our Olympians know how to win wherever our international footballers don't and if they could learn from our Olympians in quite a few different facets then they would do a awful lot better.

It's a pointless comparison. Football is far better funded across the world, it's far more competitive across the world. If Cycling was as popular as football and better funded in all those nations then we probably wouldn't be dominating it as much as we are. We've been very smart in how we target our investment and time when it comes to the Olympics.

We're doing great at the Olympics and that itself is an achievement. We don't need to use it to have a go at footballers. It's turning something optimistic and cheerful into something pessimistic and cynical. Footballers are the punching bag the UK population never gets tired of hitting.

We're not the best in the world at football, we may well be a cycling. Let's celebrate that.

denphone 18-08-2016 05:24

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Yes we should certainly be celebrating it that is for sure although one person l think should be praised all those years ago for making a decision which has had a great effect since on funding is Sir John Major.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37085873

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/sh...y-olympic-hero

Damien 21-08-2016 07:43

Re: [UPDATED] Team GB beats London 2012 medal haul
 
Last night Team GB exceeded their medal count from 2012. The first nation to beat their home games in the following Olympics.

denphone 21-08-2016 08:04

Re: [UPDATED] Team GB beats London 2012 medal haul
 
A astonishing achievement and it is nice that there will be parades in London and Manchester to celebrate it...

Maggy 21-08-2016 08:19

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I was reading on the BBC that the largest haul of medals we ever had was 146 in 1908..I really should look into the history of the Olympics.It might be an interesting project.

Osem 21-08-2016 08:57

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35855016)
A astonishing achievement and it is nice that there will be parades in London and Manchester to celebrate it...

Why is Frinton on Sea being excluded? I think the parade should be held there, they never get anything... :D

Exceeding the medal haul from London 2012 is a great achievement and another positive legacy of it. I'm certain there'll be countless young people who've been inspired to take up sport as a result of this.

denphone 21-08-2016 09:55

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l will have a word with Theresa May and see what she can do for you Osem in regards to a parade at Frinton on Sea .:)

Osem 21-08-2016 10:17

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Thanks Den! ;)

Just been doing a little analysis of the gold medal figures and it turns out that of the top 3 nations the UK currently has gold medals in 15 of the 19 sports listed. The US has golds in only 12 of the 19 categories and China only 10.

martyh 21-08-2016 13:32

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35855014)
Last night Team GB exceeded their medal count from 2012. The first nation to beat their home games in the following Olympics.

would it be fair to say that our success is a legacy from 2012 despite some people saying it was a waste of money and could not be justified

Damien 21-08-2016 14:54

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35855047)
would it be fair to say that our success is a legacy from 2012 despite some people saying it was a waste of money and could not be justified

Dunno but I am willing to say it is :D

denphone 21-08-2016 15:31

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l was talking to my Mum and Dad the other night about 20 years ago when the Olympics were in Atalanta when sadly we came away with one paltry gold and how much of a upturn there has been in our Olympics fortunes since then.:)

heero_yuy 21-08-2016 15:34

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35855054)
l was talking to my Mum and Dad the other night about 20 years ago when the Olympics were in Atalanta when sadly we came away with one paltry gold and how much of a upturn there has been in our Olympics fortunes since then.:)

Maybe having weeded out all the drug cheats we're competing on equal footings now.

Osem 21-08-2016 15:39

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It's official that the UK will finish second in the medals table ahead of China for the first time ever. Talk about punching above our weight! What a fantastic result. :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37085511


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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35855055)
Maybe having weeded out all the drug cheats we're competing on equal footings now.

You recall the days of the E. Germans too then... :D

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35855047)
would it be fair to say that our success is a legacy from 2012 despite some people saying it was a waste of money and could not be justified

Well I know my neighbour and a number of her athlete friends were greatly inspired by the prospect of the London Olympics and she's now well on the way to being a gold medalist next time around.

denphone 21-08-2016 15:51

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35855055)
Maybe having weeded out all the drug cheats we're competing on equal footings now.

Sadly there are still some cheats around old bean as l don't think we will ever have a drug free championships no matter how hard one tries.

heero_yuy 21-08-2016 15:56

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35855061)
Sadly there are still some cheats around old bean as l don't think we will ever have a drug free championships no matter how hard one tries.

Sadly you're right Den. I should have said most rather than all.

Still top marks to team GB for their results.

Shadow Demon UK 21-08-2016 19:14

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I don't think it's that surprising considering the amount of funding Olympic sports get. I read that on average each medal cost £5.5 million in funding, I doubt any other country puts as much funding into Olympic sports as we do.

Damien 21-08-2016 21:20

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35855127)
I don't think it's that surprising considering the amount of funding Olympic sports get. I read that on average each medal cost £5.5 million in funding, I doubt any other country puts as much funding into Olympic sports as we do.

Is that stat right? Seems higher than what I have heard.

It is the funding that's helped though. They increased funding at targeted it better at sports where we're more likely to win Gold. A good article here suggests we're reaping the results of decisions made by John Major: https://www.ft.com/content/0ba195cc-...c-7b39cbb1138a

We can't quantify the economic benefit of the investment in sport but the feeling of the country this week and the feeling 4 years ago from London 2012 is worth it in my view. Who'll forget the Saturday 4 years ago when we won three golds with Mo Farah breaking away from the pack on the final lap? Or the woman's hockey team winning on penalties now? Even if there is no economic or social benefit, the feeling is enough by itself.

Also I love the BBC's coverage of us finishing 2nd. It seems written in a 'go UK!' way. First this is the picture they used to highlight it:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/08/7.jpg

then paragraphs like this:

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China, with a population of 1.357bn to Britain's 64.1m, have amassed more medals (70) than Team GB in Brazil, achieving notable success in table tennis, diving and weightlifting.

However, GB are ahead on golds, which is what the rankings are based on.
:D

Chris 21-08-2016 21:31

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Missus made a good point last night - large amounts of that money are being spent in the UK, on skilled jobs such as the nutritionists and sports scientists that are driving our athletes' performance.

Osem 21-08-2016 22:19

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Yes it is the expertise being brought into the various disciplines which has made much of the difference and success breeds success as we know. The cycling model has been copied into other sports and we're seeing the results.

figgyburn 23-08-2016 06:00

Re: [UPDATED] Team GB beats London 2012 medal haul
 
Here comes the usual clamour to give these(stars,heroes,legends)an honour.Sir this,Dame that,Obe here,Mbe there.These honours are so devalued these days as they are handed out to uncle tom cobley and all.A bit like university degrees,everybody has one.Some of these athelete's have/will become very rich and will do very nicely on the "celebrity" cooking/gameshow circuit.Just not sure honours are warranted for winning a medal.

Mr K 23-08-2016 10:10

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35855056)
It's official that the UK will finish second in the medals table ahead of China for the first time ever. Talk about punching above our weight! What a fantastic result. :)

Depends which medal table you looks at. I know the ones in the USA and China no doubt (!), rank by number of medals which puts China second. However we got more golds and silvers than them, so stuff them they can keep all the bronzes !

Whichever way you look at it its a brilliant performance, however it did cost £5.5 million per medal. Can't help feeling that would would have been better directed at the NHS but then I guess the lottery money just becomes another tax... If it encouraged more to get into sport it would be great, but we're more lethargic than ever.

Maggy 23-08-2016 10:50

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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35855397)
Here comes the usual clamour to give these(stars,heroes,legends)an honour.Sir this,Dame that,Obe here,Mbe there.These honours are so devalued these days as they are handed out to uncle tom cobley and all.A bit like university degrees,everybody has one.Some of these athelete's have/will become very rich and will do very nicely on the "celebrity" cooking/gameshow circuit.Just not sure honours are warranted for winning a medal.

Why not? There are footballers who will earn far more than the Olympic team ever will and some of whom demonstrate far less sportsmanship than our Olympians..
Not every one of them will earn real fortunes..

Kursk 23-08-2016 12:09

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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35855397)
Here comes the usual clamour to give these(stars,heroes,legends)an honour.Sir this,Dame that,Obe here,Mbe there.These honours are so devalued these days as they are handed out to uncle tom cobley and all.

I agree. see thread in 'Sports'

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35855415)
Can't help feeling that would would have been better directed at the NHS but then I guess the lottery money just becomes another tax.

Martyh doesn't agree. see thread in 'Sports'

Mr K 23-08-2016 13:19

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35855436)
Martyh doesn't agree. see thread in 'Sports'

that's reassuring, we rarely agree on anything :D

figgyburn 23-08-2016 14:43

Re: [UPDATED] Team GB beats London 2012 medal haul
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35855424)
Why not? There are footballers who will earn far more than the Olympic team ever will and some of whom demonstrate far less sportsmanship than our Olympians..
Not every one of them will earn real fortunes..

Don't get me started on these prima donna's.Pampered overpaid tattooed stupid haircut clowns.And i used to love my football.Now the games are on in the background with the sound turned down so i do not have to listen to the drivel spouted by the overpaid as well "pundits".I just love the tattooed gangbanger hard man look and then they fall down at the slightest touch and sometimes no touch at all like dying swans.Pathetic.

martyh 23-08-2016 17:11

Re: [UPDATED] Team GB beats London 2012 medal haul
 
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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35855397)
Here comes the usual clamour to give these(stars,heroes,legends)an honour.Sir this,Dame that,Obe here,Mbe there.These honours are so devalued these days as they are handed out to uncle tom cobley and all.A bit like university degrees,everybody has one.Some of these athelete's have/will become very rich and will do very nicely on the "celebrity" cooking/gameshow circuit.Just not sure honours are warranted for winning a medal.

Bah Humbug

I would sooner any honour go to a successful sports person than George Osborne,David Cameron ,Phillip Hammond etc,etc

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35855456)
that's reassuring, we rarely agree on anything :D

Dam straight ;)


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