Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scared"
 

Its already being corrupted and we're turning a blind eye to it

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.t...android-h3g-gb

Re: Islam fastest growing religion in UK as churches decline
 

And that's why we deserve everything that's coming to us. and everything we get.

The British are dumb. just ask a foreigner.

Re: Islam fastest growing religion in UK as churches decline
 

Which report was it? The writer didn't say.Apologies it's Eric Pickles report for the government..Found it on the BBC eventually..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37055521

Re: Islam fastest growing religion in UK as churches decline
 

Eric Pickles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ectoral-fraud/

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Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

What's new about it?

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

This is nothing new and it's a big part of the reason we're find ourselves in the situation we are with various groups who've become used to having a blind eye turned towards their unacceptable behaviour. Having been allowed to get away with if for so long, it's not really a big surprise when it turns out that full advantage has been taken of the situation and tackling the legacy of such a flawed 'policy' is going to be very tough.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

We have been so busy being open, tolerant and multi cultural in the last couple of decades we've allowed an enemy to not just enter the country but setup strongholds and support mechanisms. This is all going to get very unpleasant soon people have had enough and how can we lecture anyone about britishness when we're so reluctant to demonstrate it lest we be called racists. The english flag has been hijacked by the far right and nothing was really done about it our society and culture is so worried about how others may view it we rarely celebrate it.

At this point I'm not sure it has a peaceful solution as we've let things go too far in too many area's. Some friends in london talk about groups of muslim men in certain parts of our capital city patrolling harassing and intimidating people who are doing anything they view as offensive to islam and there are a growing amount of videos popping up showing it as well. For most of my life I've defended different cultures and it saddens me to see the tolerance and open mindedness of the UK being abused and i now believe we are heading down a road that ends with violence. I'd wish i could say it won't happen in my lifetime but i don't want my kids living in that sort of society and i honestly don't think it's too far into the future.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

What particular areas are they patrolling? I'll keep an eye out for them an harass them if you can narrow it down a bit.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Sadly we have allowed our tolerance to be used against us and offered rights without responsibilities. We clearly have a big problem festering away in this country and continuing to give/allow refuge to people who clearly don't respect our values is only adding to it.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Just google "muslim patrols in london" Daddy seems to be east london area mainly and that's where two of my friends live so I'll take their word for it as i never get to london anymore. I will admit to being surprised at that search actually yielding results and it was one of my friends that told me to use it. This is not an islamic state and no muslim has the right to patrol anywhere other then their own front and back garden and the fact some think that not only they have the right but the freedom to do it is disturbing.

Back in the early-mid eighties i honestly thought opposing the national front and standing up for the ethnic communities was going to be the end of the violent end of this and yes i was naive but i was young and i guess it was more hope then anything else. To be returning and maybe surpassing those times in the future is depressing but unlike then i can't defend those communities anymore.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

That's odd, I live in East london and drive round large parts of it pretty much all night, every night and I've never seen any of these patrols, I saw a sticker on a lamp post once in Ilford I think it was proclaiming such but I've never seen drunks or scantily clad women being berated for their behaviour. That's not to say it's never happened just that it might be being exaggerated a bit.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

People were jailed so it was a problem .The group called "Muslim Patrol " have since been locked up or ,as in one case "seen the error of his ways" :)

I don't think it ever got to the stage that people where scared to walk the streets though it mostly seemed to be followers of Anjem Choudary making a nuisance of themselves



http://news.sky.com/story/ex-muslim-...ideos-10341361

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/m...london-streets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_patrols

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-London.html

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

A few stupid boys bothering women and drunks, their crimes and sentences seem to have garnered headlines more appropriate for more heinous crimes to so I think I'll stand by my origional thoughts that it was an exaggerated threat.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Oh i agree ,it was built up by the likes of the Mail ,was never a serious threat

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Exaggerated or not that any of them think they can do that in the UK demonstrates the problem it is not acceptable for a single muslim to go onto our streets and conduct "patrols" and it is ongoing. Most really bad thing's start small and are not seen by many until it becomes a much bigger problem and starts affecting greater numbers this is not an islamic state and i hope it never will be and it's time to start coming down very hard on the element that thinks doing anything other then peacefully following their faith is acceptable.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Actually your dead right . Thinking about it and looking past the exaggeration the Daily Mail tends to put on stories concerning Muslims ,it is completely unacceptable .Laws and public morality are not set by religion in this country anymore and as such no Muslim has the right to tell anyone how to behave anymore than Jehovah Witnesses have to accost a person in their home or on the street

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

I think they were quite harshly dealt with and I'm glad they were, their antics were a complete liberty and will never be acceptable here. Interesting that yet another troubled young man found solace in radical islam, I'm much more concerned about what's going on inside our prisons than what's happening on the streets of Shoreditch where I can guarantee if they'd tried that rubbish on the high street they'd be regretting their actions even more so than they are today.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Well prison's are an entirely different subject that many of us will vehemently disagree on lol.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

It was stated on this forum about photo Id. When going to the polls. I cannot understand why it has not been brought out.
If you think we have - Drivers ID, etc. and on such as important events such as elections. I think this is paramount.

You just have to look at the Corbyn crap. It wouldn't surprise me if that hasn't happened there.

If l am not wrong. The Labour Party revealed that some 'members' have been excluded

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

In hindsight a national ID card may not be such a bad idea one form of ID that makes things more secure and would help solve more problems then it would create.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

I can't understand why so many people are against them aside from the fact that the government would be in charge of the introduction and their history of big IT projects is somewhat flaky

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

There are more than enough fake forms of id already. Let's face it, any id is not going to be thoroughly checked in that situation. There isn't the time, inclination, or the mass technology required. The basis of the problem is too embedded.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Other countries manage it yes their is forgery but for passable quality forgeries the cost is prohibitive for normal people and I'm sure we can come up with something. For the last couple of years I've had a nagging feeling we're at or very quickly aporoaching an irreversible fork in the road for how we proceed towards the future and i don't see a happy ever after branch just a bad and worse choice.

Whatever happens things need to get tougher for those who choose to come and live here, not only do they need to come with the understanding the onus is now on them to integrate and adapt to the UK it's customs, culture and type of society but if they don't then they will be removed enough of bending over backwards as we have in the past.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

But do other countries have the same level of underlying problem as we have here?

How thorough would any id checks be? And who does the checking?

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

I believe ID cards wil only work for people who obey the law.

the ones that don't obey the law the cards won't be of any use to.

which defeats the point of it all really.

it's a bit like do you insure/tax and MOT your car. or do you not bother.

and drive for weeks and months without anyone noticing or caring.
some may notice and care. obviously.

but they're the wrong people to be able to do anything about it.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

We can't carry on as we have it doesn't work it just creates problems and splits in society and increases resentment some of which showed in the EU referendum we had a large group of people shouting out for real change. I don't want the society of the UK to be split into groups each with growing resentment and dislike that at some point will turn to hatred and violence towards each other and it is happening. In some cases like i hope with the UK it's a slow burn with chances to prevent it but it can also just explode because of events and things go very bad very quick.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Absolutely.

I still think that Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood" speech will come true*, except that it may not necessarily be between whites and non whites, but between the many different races that we've allowed into our country.

* It could be argued that it's started already with the murder of Lee Rigby etc etc.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

I am sensing that you disagree with this?

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

I think he means the Celts, the Picts, the Romans, The Jutes, the Angles, the Saxons, the Vikings, the Normans, the Huguenots, and the Germans (the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas) :D

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

But these have mostly been absorbed into a single culture, with some differences, whereas some more recent incomers don't want to do this and want to enforce their cultures.

I can understand incomers want to keep (some of) their identity and that's fine, it's what make the UK so interesting. I can even understand they want to group together. What isn't right is that they want to force changes in our law to accommodate things we may not agree with (trying to be careful here, please take this in the right way).

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

I fully support a National ID card scheme.

I do not, however, support such a scheme where everyone has to pay for one directly out of their own pocket.

Incidentally, didn't the cost of a passport increase to cover the cost of an ID card issued at the same time?

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

No, i'm not going back that far.

It will probably happen when we've gone, so it will be the young ones who will suffer.

Let's hope his prediction will be wrong.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

What do think the 'Rivers of Blood' speach predicted?

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3...od-speech.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw4vMZDItQo

Judge for yourselves.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Reading the transcript, I am surprised just how right wing he was. He comes across as a very unpleasant individual.

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

And yet most of what he said has just been used as reasoning to exit the EU .To answer Richards statement that the rivers of blood speech will come true ,most of what Enoch Powell rather spookily predicted, already has happened

Re: Vote rigging in Muslim communities "goes unchallenged because PC police are scare
 

Like him or loathe him as an individual fault his view of what the UK would be like in the future he appears to have been disturbingly accurate and that's not a good thing. He also highlights another danger though he didn't see it as such and that was for want of a better term the "quiet opinion" that exists in many people and communities in the UK a growing resentment at the watering down of our nation to accomadate those from outside. Lack of any integration on the part of many ethnic communities compounds the situation and at a time when money is getting tighter for us to be spending large amounts on translators and multi language signs is ridiculous and sends a double message.

On the one hand we have numerous politicians saying that everyone here should be able to speak and write english to an acceptable degree but then we bring in translators and multi language signs and leaflets that halt any attempt amongst many to learn the native language. The UK seems to have no pride or belief in it's identity enough to really defend or promote and if needed enforce it onto people living here it's almost as if those in power are embarased or scared of whatever accusation to stand up and push the issue.

I see the changing attitudes amongst my own family most of whom have gone from a carefree not really bothered attitude to one of being concerned and angry about the immigrant situation and i don't think they are unique in this regard. Battle lines are slowly being drawn within society and it's a matter of when not if it kicks off into something none of us want. Time has definately run out for the stock response of the last two decades where anything but support for immigration was silenced by accusations of racism and ignorance.

This is a problem we must start addressing now and we must come up with practical measures to rectify and rebalance the nation before it's completely taken over by extremists on both sides and we end up seeing the results daily on the news.