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Osem 24-07-2016 19:06

Machete murder in Germany
 
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A machete attack by a Syrian asylum-seeker has left one woman dead and two other people injured, police in south-western Germany say.
Witnesses said the attack happened after an argument developed between the man and the woman in the town of Reutlingen, near Stuttgart.
Police said the attacker had been arrested and there was no indication that it was terrorist attack.
The incident comes amid tension after other bloody events in the past week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36879196

Where is all this going to end Mrs Merkel?

Ramrod 24-07-2016 19:42

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To me, it looks like we are importing cultures where deadly violence is closer to the surface and more likely to erupt. :(

Osem 24-07-2016 20:28

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35850946)
To me, it looks like we are importing cultures where deadly violence is closer to the surface and more likely to erupt. :(

... and raising a lot of false hopes for a much better life which many are not going to find. Then what?...

Hugh 24-07-2016 20:33

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35850946)
To me, it looks like we are importing cultures where deadly violence is closer to the surface and more likely to erupt. :(

From Glasgow?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...frankfield-ro/

http://www.smh.com.au/world/fear-and...#ixzz29OOYzoUl
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In Glasgow, Scotland's biggest city, a stabbing occurs every six hours - and many more go unreported. Survey after survey, from the World Health Organisation to the United Nations, identifies Glasgow as one of the most violent cities in western Europe. Among young males aged between 10 and 29, the rate of homicide is similar to Argentina, Costa Rica and Lithuania (not other cities - whole countries). Alcohol-related death rates are three times the British average while Scots have one of the lowest life expectancies in Europe.

nomadking 24-07-2016 21:01

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The difference is that incidents in Glasgow and the like are usually a result of an argument/disagreement of some kind and likely to often involve alcohol. Basically this incident, along with others is the result of arguments/disagreements with everybody not a Muslim.

Damien 24-07-2016 21:08

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35850953)
The difference is that incidents in Glasgow and the like are usually a result of an argument/disagreement of some kind and likely to often involve alcohol. Basically this incident, along with others is the result of arguments/disagreements with everybody not a Muslim.

ISIS and Islamic extremism in general have killed more Muslims than they have non-Muslims.

Also it says in the article that this was the result of an argument and not terrorism.

figgyburn 24-07-2016 21:37

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Germany is now reaping what merkel has sown.It seems to me that eu citizens are expendable as far as the elites at the top are concerned just as long as their"agenda"carries on merrily.☠

Maggy 24-07-2016 22:08

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35850939)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36879196

Where is all this going to end Mrs Merkel?

What do you care? We are out of the EU and it's no longer anything we have to care about surely? We are safe within our own borders and we aren't going to have the same issues..We will control who comes here once we finally leave..Won't we?

TheDaddy 24-07-2016 22:27

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A bomb has gone of now :(

Maggy 24-07-2016 22:51

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Where did you hear that?

TheDaddy 24-07-2016 23:14

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35850970)
Where did you hear that?

http://m.sputniknews.com/europe/2016...URL_shortening

RizzyKing 24-07-2016 23:28

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Being in or out of the EU won't affect whether these attacks are planned or happen and only a moron ever thought differently. I think there might be a little more planning to this then we realise at the minute, big attacks are difficult to execute, prepare and finance. Radicalising individuals who need no more then a driving licence or knives is a lot easier and can occur in areas outside of the normal traditional target areas creating a general sense of fear.

Body count is lower per incident but can quickly escalate in terms of number of incidents and it's a policy that can be effective on a quicker scale then training people to fly aircraft or coordinate city wide run and guns. This is one of the nightmare scenarios that security and intelligence services have been dreading and let's hope this isn't the start of such a campaign.

Taf 24-07-2016 23:45

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...newspaper.html

TheDaddy 25-07-2016 00:01

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Looks like the person that died was the bomber, so it's not all bad news

Ramrod 25-07-2016 11:06

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35850970)
Where did you hear that?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...german-city-o/

Osem 25-07-2016 11:31

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35850962)
What do you care? We are out of the EU and it's no longer anything we have to care about surely? We are safe within our own borders and we aren't going to have the same issues..We will control who comes here once we finally leave..Won't we?

What do I care?

Well only that Merkel's madness has affected the whole of Europe and will I believe further undermine it, especially when the time comes to disperse the less desirable element around the EU and try to remove those whose asylum claims are rejected like the Syrian guy who's just blown himself up having been refused asylum. Odd that it should happen so soon after my post eh?

Regardless of our trading status with the EU they are our nearest neighbours and we will never be unaffected by what goes on there no matter what the final result of the negotiations is. We ought to be far better able to control who comes here but our past glorious leaders have shown themselves to be either wholly or largely in favour of a virtually open door. Fingers crossed, May finally delivers what so many people clearly want but in the meantime the gates are still very open to assorted migrants/refugees amongst which there will be a proportion of intolerant religious zealots, criminals, budding terrorists and the like whose affect on our society will be highly corrosive.

We, of course, have our own problems here with vast numbers of migrants/refugees who it's taking far too long to process and deal with. That may be largely nothing to do with Merkel or the EU but if anyone thinks that what's happening in France, Germany, Belgium etc. isn't going to happen here sooner or later they're deluded IMHO. We've given false hope to a great many people and when they discover that everything isn't going to be quite as rosy as they expected we are going to pay a price and ironically it's not the failed decision makers who tend to get blown up, it's ordinary people who in large numbers didn't want any experiment with mass, uncontrolled migration in the first place

I'm not Donald Trump, seeking to give the impression that we can build a wall and it'll all go away. It won't and I've been saying that here for years. It's too late to prevent the damage which has been done within the UK, we can only hope to minimise the potential for further problems ad the sort of carnage which people are now reaping by way of thanks for Merkel's welcome.

We are clearly not safe from foreign terrorists/murders/religious zealots within our own borders because we've already been subject to the vast numbers which other EU states have only more recently been affected by. We've also succeeded in allowing a home grown variety to be spawned as we applied our values of tolerance to the religious extremism which was evident and growing. We will however be a bit safer if we are no part of a club which will ultimately allow the free movement the countless thousands who are going to be allowed to remain in the EU. I'd rather we had some control of who we let in as opposed to none.

Maggy 25-07-2016 16:39

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With all due respect not all of that is down to being in the EU..A fair bit is to do with us always wanting to meddle where we shouldn't.

Hom3r 25-07-2016 17:42

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We are lucky that weapons and explosives are hard to come by.

Osem 25-07-2016 19:57

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35851095)
With all due respect not all of that is down to being in the EU..A fair bit is to do with us always wanting to meddle where we shouldn't.

With all due respect, where did I claim it was?

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We, of course, have our own problems here with vast numbers of migrants/refugees who it's taking far too long to process and deal with. That may be largely nothing to do with Merkel or the EU
Clearly our glorious leaders have brought some of this upon us but that fact is no reason for us to let the worst happen in front of our eyes as some form of eternal penance. Nobody asked me if I wanted us to bomb Iraq, Syria or Libya. Did anyone ask you?

nomadking 25-07-2016 20:13

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35851095)
With all due respect not all of that is down to being in the EU..A fair bit is to do with us always wanting to meddle where we shouldn't.

You are forgetting the "minor" little details of being aggressive and violent, when and where, nobody else was meddling or otherwise. All we've done is allowed those that were ALREADY deranged to be deranged here, rather than there.

Maggy 25-07-2016 20:31

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35851136)
With all due respect, where did I claim it was?



Clearly our glorious leaders have brought some of this upon us but that fact is no reason for us to let the worst happen in front of our eyes as some form of eternal penance. Nobody asked me if I wanted us to bomb Iraq, Syria or Libya. Did anyone ask you?

I was going on your reference to Chancellor Merkel..

And no I didn't want to bomb any other countries..But being in the EU had nothing to do with the decision or the result..Plus it's not all down to us..Islamists decided unilaterally to attack us and the US and the EU for their own reasons..We just handed them more reasons to use as propaganda to use against us.

Osem 25-07-2016 21:20

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35851147)
I was going on your reference to Chancellor Merkel..

And no I didn't want to bomb any other countries..But being in the EU had nothing to do with the decision or the result..Plus it's not all down to us..Islamists decided unilaterally to attack us and the US and the EU for their own reasons..We just handed them more reasons to use as propaganda to use against us.

So what has any of that to do with what I wrote? I mentioned Merkel since she opened the doors not that long ago and Germany is already paying the price - hence this thread about what's going on in Germany and my reference to her. I didn't blame her or the EU for what's been happening here since the days of Finsbury Park Mosque. :confused:

Having said that, we'd still be better off if we could detach ourselves from the huge migrant mess which is plain for all to see in Europe.


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