Military coup in Turkey?
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36809083 Wow!

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Very volatile situation and really hoping it isn't the side of their military that believes in stronger action against Russia could be a very dangerous period ahead.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Can't win. Erdogan is a dictator. Absolutely full of crap and as corrupt as they come. Just look at his comments on it. Telling Turks to take to the streets. +1to Erdo to take to the streets instead... Didn't think so :erm:

So again. Erdogan is a madman but like above, no one actually knows the outcome of a successful coup.

Erdogan via Skype though. Absolute coward. NATO country and all. ISIS oil and imprisoning anyone that dares speak ill about lord president.

With a bit of luck maybe people are just that fed up with how things are done.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

So is this a good thing or a bad thing? I didn't think things were that bad in Turkey considering their application to join the EU?

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Don't know the answer because no one knows the ultimate goal. Before the coup its been about Erdogan being astonishingly corrupt with no repercussions for it, naturally Turkey would've been blocked from the EU via the UK but honestly it wouldn't set a great example for any decision to allow them in whilst Erdogan remains.

A quick Google of Erdogan corruption or dictator will tell you what happens when the news doesn't bother to report it here.

So you overthrow the government and the grass doesn't turn out to be greener and its worse. As above its pretty volatile at the minute because nobody has a clue.

Removing people like Erdogan without a military coup is ideally a better outcome.

Summary. Turkish government are notoriously corrupt and bad, no one knows if the military plans are better or worse. Grim.

Rumours that Ergodan is attempting to flee the country. Same guy that's consistently berated social media for freedom of speech against him is now using it to rally the public. Brilliant.

Remember how well Syria went?

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Live streaming news

http://www.euronews.com/news/streaming-live/

http://www.neartelevision.com/

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Helicopter has apparently opened fire on presidential palace.

Also, Social media blocked in Turkey for the public.. As the prime minister and infamous Erdo tweet out.. EU application? :confused:

Absolute mess. If it is to solely to oust Ergodan and co we can hardly complain about the mess, world leaders knew he was dictator-esque and corrupt and turned a blind eye. Barely a few months ago he ousted his PM and placed a puppet in charge.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Shots fired at protesters.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Not sure what the NATO angle is on all this.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Horrifying mess this. An anti Erdogan military coup coupled with Erdogan himself urging his supporters to take to the streets and basically confront the military? Is he serious?

Erdogan is one thing and yeah he's as corrupt as they come but you could cause a civil war this way. It's a country split. As above there's sources floating around of the military firing upon civilians. Wants rid of dictator. Shoots at Civilians to do so. Doesn't quite come off does it.

There's no good to come from this at all if the above is confirmed.

Civilians have now taken control of tanks. Clashes between soldiers and civillians ongoing and now confirmed.

https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq

Worldwide news source and live updates w/ local reports.

---------- Post added at 23:35 ---------- Previous post was at 23:23 ----------

Tanks are now pancaking cars as gunshots reign out in Istanbul. Turkey is now basically a Warzone.

General intelligence building blown up.

Appearances on TV by commanders confirm this isn't a full out military coup and is limited it seems. No clue who is spearheading it.

If there is loyal military remaining surely that is a better option than sending your civilian public to stand in front on tanks.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Explosion at the airport now.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Is possible Sonic booms are being misreported as explosions. Eyewitness claims there's been no bombing in Istanbul.

If Turkish sources are to be believed then its almost at an end with only pockets of soldiers still active. Huge explosion reported at 02:00 but again I'd wait in case its merely a low flying jet.

Parliament building hit by bomb. 12 reported dead.

Erodgan finally appears, Istanbul.

Why this is happening. http://twitter.com/Anonops_Live/stat...013376/photo/1

All in all it looks like a failed coup now as pointed out. They failed to take Erodgan before he disgustingly put his own followers in harms way because they also failed to take down online media which allowed Erodgan a platform to stage a counter albeit urging civilians to face armed men.

Best anyone could hope for now is a swift ending as there's only small segments of armed men left according to Turkish media.

---------- Post added at 02:17 ---------- Previous post was at 01:56 ----------

Soldiers stormed CNN and have the employees hostage outside, leaving the room free for all.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Erodgan may have dodged the bullet this time but I don't think it will be long before it blows up again he is just a complete ******* and more and more Turks are seeing it and resenting it. I think the military jumped prematurely overestimating the public mood and assuming wider support that they didn't get in the end. If erodgan reacts in his normal manner there will now be a purge of the military that Stalin would be proud of which will ensure future plots.

NATO will not get involved as it's an internal matter and is not going to escalate beyond Turkey's borders erodgan could request assistance technically but his ego will prevent that. There will no doubt be some meetings within NATO as instability within a member nations military is not something that can be accepted and if this continues to any degree for any length of time I wouldn't be surprised if turkey is asked to suspend it's NATO membership.

As usual it will be the ordinary people that will suffer the most.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Don't worry it's brexit's fault. Apparently


:rolleyes:

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Well it's about time we had something really worrying to talk about either within the EU or on its borders eh.

It'll be interesting to see how the guilty are treated and what sort of recriminations there are. I guess it could all get very nasty.

---------- Post added at 09:55 ---------- Previous post was at 09:49 ----------

Now why doesn't that surprise me?...

Maybe Brexit is the reason his party is a complete shambles too...

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Erdogan has been "doing a Putin". When he had been Prime Minister for the maximum number of times, he effectively made himself President. And then he started moving more and more powers to himself.

The secular state was guaranteed by Turkey's founder Ataturk, with the military its guardians. But any rumour about anyone military considering a coup met with swift imprisonment by Erdogan.

He has shut down any voice against him: the media, lawyers, military....

He knows that Turkey cannot join the EU whilst North Cyprus is still occupied, but he refuses to talk peace. Throwing EU money at him to control migration through Turkey has been inflating his ego...

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Sounds about right. :tu:

Maybe he's hoping to find other means by which to leverage his way into the EU.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Oh well if Chris Bryant says it's brexits fault it must be I mean it's not like there is an egotistical power crazy loon running things but thinking about it that pretty much sums up his party at the minute complete with fanatics happy to use violence. These days you can always rely on a labour mp to make excuses for everything if they put half as much effort into actually coming up with solutions to problems instead of excuses people might vote for them.

Let's not hold our breath though or cable forum will lose a few members.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Images of Turkish soldiers being tortured and lynched by Pro Erdogan supporters are doing the rounds. Starting to think about taking it back and realising these supposed 'Civillians' probably deserve to be shot at. Outrage because of shots being fired and responding to that after a surrender by torturing people? Absolute filth. Defending democracy my arse, its an outright dictatorship.

That's not proper punishment or justice, that's barbaric and to think they have the audacity to apply to the EU. Get rid of the goatf (explicit) - Boris Johnson's words. First.

What an absolute state Turkey is in. Starting to wish Russia had hammered Erdogan and his puppets after that Jet incident.

To clear it up too, there were two sets of civilian responses last night. Those defending their right to a democracy and those out there on Erdogan's order. The latter of which are responsible for occupying tanks and torturing soldiers. Erdogan is also finger pointing across borders, madman.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

I think we've just been given a jolly good reason why Turkey ought not to be allowed anywhere near the EU. Odd eh? Has it happened because of Brexit or because of Brexit?

Powerful forces at work here...

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

I'm hearing that the Incirlik Air Base is under attack :(

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Any sign of Goldman Sachs?

Barroso seems to be working for them - quelle surprise...

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

It's a mighty convenient coup...

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

In a sense Erodgan now has a platform to cry for even more power? There were suggestions it was staged for his own benefit.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Sources saying just that are being silenced in Turkey. It's also noted that "secular judges" are being rounded-up and imprisoned.

---------- Post added at 12:45 ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 ----------

With a large NATO/USA defence force on hand.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

There's no hope. Its the same old follow the lead of the US/ NATO whom would never really risk dampening relations with Turkey because they're just so close to Russia and who doesn't love plonking their jets that close! So any sense of morality goes out of the window when it comes to actually questioning Erdogan and his dictator like leadership. So long as Turkey allow their land to be used for US reasons then everyone just has to turn a blind eye. The response of the western world for Turkey downing a Russian jet over a 17 second excursion really showed the attitude to Turkey as a whole. Had it been the other way round I feel certain that Russia would have been condemned.

They're mess of a country with countless problems that are simply ignored because they serve the United States' best interests.

Erdogan sent his public into the street. Some civillians, some thugs. 250 dead. Soldiers tortured and countless things wrong with his response and all the US is bothered about is the finger pointing. Embarrasing to have a country like that representing NATO and it would be pretty astonishing to see them get anywhere near EU membership. The EU of course being noted for its human rights etc. Something Erodgan and Turkey forget exists.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Becoming dangerously more blatant now that this was a false flag. Specific arrests and the sheer number only further solidifies this was a predetermined list before hand and has allowed Erodgan unanimous support to purge whomever or whatever he wants.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Sadly yes it's very obvious now this was a staged coup to enable erodgan to eliminate all remaining opposition and the silence from the international community is deafening. NATO is having a meeting later in the week and this will feature strongly I suspect but there needs to be something from the international community and any suggestion of Turkey joining the eu is now off the table if there is any sense. How quickly the roundups happened and the groups targeted give the biggest evidence that this was a stage managed incident with a very clear agenda.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

I think it is class that you have an American President, advising the Turkey government to take on the Coup plotters within the rule of law and thus, avoid re-introducing the Death Penalty on them.

How many American States, still have the Death Penalty again?

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Started rounding up educators now can't have too much of that free thinking got to stamp that right out and to think we thought stuff like this was just deepest Africa or south America not right on Europe's doorstep. Still long as they are dealing with immigrants let's not say too much I'm sure immigrants are treated really well by this regime :erm:.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Just a heads up. ISIS is managed by MI6

https://wikileaks.org/akp-emails/emailid/244728

Source: Turkish government emails.

Story: 300,000 Government emails have been dumped by Whistleblowing organisation Wikileaks as a response to Turkish Purge.

Whilst all emails are naturally being scoured by News sources, it'll be a while before any hit the news.

To recap though. Erdogan: There's only a small number responsible for this coup. 120 soldiers.

45,000 people, sacked, arrested or suspended and this wild purge continues, in as we've discussed above is no longer a conspiracy but probably the most blatant false flag operation in history. 45,000 people whom oppose Erdogan.

The Dictator.

Re: Military coup in Turkey?
 

Here we are.

http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view....ourceID=001172