Chilcot Inquiry Released
 

Just been released.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...quiry-war-iraq

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Alastair Campbell is cleared...

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/...35088858255360



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Chilcot says the inquiry does not accept Blair’s claim that it was impossible to predict post-invasion problems

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Is is disastrous for Blair & Co. Chilcot hasn't held back at all, anyone expecting a whitewash will be surprised.

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I know legal action is not the remit of this report but I predict Bliar will get away with what amounts to a slapped wrist and the really impressive legal action will be reserved for military personnel. Someone has to pay after all...

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FFS. 7 years to tell us what any village idiot could have told us 7 years ago, the Iraq War was a travesty. And sadly, will tarnish the reputation of Blair as in my opinion until the IW he was a great PM.

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Tony Blair's shameless promise to George Bush on Iraq war 'I will be with you whatever'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/686...-Bush-Iraq-War

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Good to hear Cameron has wasted no time in coming out with the trademark politician response of "lessons must be learned" which is MP-speak for saying something without actually saying anything.

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It's great to hear that Bliar takes 'full responsibility' for the mistakes which were made over Iraq. I wonder what form he believes that 'responsibility' should take...

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Live Chilcot report: Tony Blair takes 'full responsibility' for Iraq war and expresses his 'sorrow and regret' - but says he would do it again

so he would send other peoples children to their deaths in an unnecessary war
wonder if he would send his own

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...vasion-was-no/

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A fresh round of after dinner speaking engagements to discuss it.

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What's it going to take for him to admit he's wrong, Chilcot, isis, well over a million of dead, hundreds of thousands of refugees on Europe's doorstep and that psychopath says he'd do it again

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given the devastation we have all witnessed through various forms of media his statement beggars belief .

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And yet it would not surprise if he gets off scot free given the establishment are very good at protecting themselves.

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Any mention of Dr David Kelly?

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Covered by the Hutton inquiry I think

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Blair will never admit he's wrong, it would destroy his 'legacy'. There are plenty of MP's , including Cameron that voted for the war, which is probably why they aren't quite going for the jugular.. Thing is what are the plans to put it right? Iraq is still in mess, and this country has a responsibility.

Robin Cook RIP and respect.

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I have several points to make on this subject. So if members can bear with me on this matter.

1) When personnel join the Armed Service, they do KNOWING FULL WELL THEY CAN GO TO WAR.

2) A relative of mine used to serve on the HMS Eagle in the Royal Navy. He joined knowing full well he could go to war.

3) we had a PM in Tony Blair, who took advice on several occasions. To sought out permission to deal with a dictator.

4) He made a decision to go to war, with America. And dispose of a dictator in Saddam Hussann.

I feel for the people of the loss of life.

But why state that Tony Blair is a Terrorist. We have major problems with IS at the moment, and yet, we are standing still and allowing this to happen.

Are we as a country supposed to stand still, and allow this to continue.

We have Mugabe, who is torturing people in his country, for many years, and we do nothing.

Surely we have to draw the line at something.

Every time a PM or President makes decision to go to war, to go through the diplomatic route - while innocent people are killed , tortured, yet we stand still.

IF Tony Blair has broken ANY law, then he must face the full force of the law. Its like with the Falklands.

Did we need to go to war with Argentina. And have terrible casualties ?

BUT, l might be bad here. BUT, if you join the Armed Forces, then you do, do what your commanding officer.

And not being funny some of the Demonstrators in London, were that young. They probably don't know what the fighting was about.

PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG.

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Haven't read the report yet but hope it covers adequately the reservations and concerns raised by both the military and intelligence services as both were very frustrated back then as the only thing Blair and co wanted to hear were worst case scenarios. Arthur joining the armed forces of the uk of course means you might go to war but when you do you expect it to be in the national interest of the UK not the US. You expect to be adequately equipped and you expect there to be a plan for afterwards, none of that was present. George bush wanted to finish daddy's job and secure oil and other lucrative contracts for the US and those were the only real goals.

Blair lied and he knew damn well at the time he was lying and committed the UK to a bad military operation that cost both UK service people and UK civilians their lives, that's not even touching the utter devastation of Iraq and it's people. He should be punished for what he did but all that will happen is he will go off and make a load more money for himself he's a ******* and a disgrace.

Don't compare Iraq to the Falklands as they have nothing in common.

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Do you ever get tired of being proven wrong. The difference between gulf war 2 and Falklands is that we weren't led into an illegal war based on lies, to not know even the most basic facts regarding this shows you've not paid any attention over the last decade or so.

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Arthur you are wrong. Yes members of the armed forces know they can end up in a war, however they don't expect to be sent to a war zone based on lies. I was in the forces and had no problem fighting for my country when called to do so. Going to war because Blair had lied to parliament in my eye's is a war crime.

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One of the things that came out was the complete lack of an exit strategy when the war was over and Saddam deposed ,the lack of which has caused most of the problems with IS and Syria.


I can't decide what's worse ,Blair knowingly taking us into a war based purely on gross exaggeration ,incompetence and even downright lying or the fact that he would do exactly the same again if he was in power.I completely understand that taking a country into war is never an easy decision for a leader of a democracy and to me that is all the more reason to make absolutely sure of the intelligence and the facts on this Blair has failed miserably .Company directors get sent to jail for criminal negligence ,this is the same imo

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This is just... breathtaking

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36733979

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The best thing he could possibly do is to just stop speaking,everytime he opens his gob he insults the families of the dead servicemen,not to mention the civilians in Iraq

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All because of 9/11 ... Bush was under pressure to strike back WRONGLY. America is our ally and Blair was Bush's puppet WRONGLY.

Afganistan how many of our armed forces have died there! I question is that/this a worthy cause PROBABLY... How do you change the mind set of a culture, time will tell.

As for the Chilcot enquiry, I think we already know 95% of the findings before publication and was it necessary.

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Yes because now it is a historical fact that Blair is a lying *war criminal*

not sure if war criminal is the right word but can't think of anything that would be even close to describing what that man is .

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Although that were not the conclusions of the report.

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i think this sums up his attitude

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close enough though ,and he could well be subject to criminal proceedings as a direct result of this inquiry

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The thing about people like Bliar is that, eventually they start to believe their own lies and can't accept they're ever wrong. That's what brings about their downfall.

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Then the sooner it happens the better. Our armed forces are worth more than the political ambitions of one man.

When they put their lives willingly on the line it is for their (our) country and they are to be applauded and respected for it.

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Block, neck, axe.

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lift carpet sweep ;)

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Surely a spike in traitors cloister? And while we're at it dig up Heath behead the corpse and put the skull on a spike for the EU betrayal.

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At least we've sort of bought Tony to account. Meanwhile over the pond, George W. goes unquestioned and continues to lead a war hero's life of luxury in that mad bloody country.

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Very blood thirsty today l see.;)

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He might be thirsty but at least his hands aren't covered in blood like bliars, I hope all the talk of him being charged with misleading parliament comes to something, he needs to face justice but I won't hold my breath.

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If Blair gets off Scot free it sets a dangerous precedent and must not be allowed it's rare for people and politicians to agree on something but we do agree Tony Blair has to face consequences for what he did and I don't mean making more millions off the suffering he caused. George bush is as bad but a t least he isn't jumping into everything giving his wisdom Blair can't bugger off no matter how hard the message is given.

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What can people actually get Blair for? It isn't clear. First of all any international organisation is probably out of the question so it would be a domestic charge. Even then it's hard to see what you could convict him of. The report didn't say he lied and the best evidence we have is the 'i'll be with you whatever' which, considering the following context of that letter, isn't a smoking gun.

There is a sense he should be held accountable and the common's doing some sort of motion seems the best avenue for that but in terms of the legal system I haven't seen what it could be. Not a lawyer though obviously.