Time for an English Parliment?
 

The EU referendum result has shown just how essential it is we have an English Parliment. England voted over whelmingly to Leave the EU and the referendum has shown how divided the UK actually is and has been for years.

So, Farage..... Get on the case, get us an English Parliment....

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

NO, we need a United Parliament to vote on what effects the UK as a whole, but where it only affects England then only English elected MP's should have a vote.

While the UK exists there can only be one overall ruling body, but when things only effect one part of it then only that part should vote on it be it Scotland, England, Wales or N.Ireland.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

You can still have a UK Parliment and an English Parliment, it needs to happen and I suspect within 10 years it will of happened.

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Yes lets divide the Kingdom even more :rolleyes:

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l know its pathetic how some think..

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How does having an English Parliment dived the "kingdom", The Scottish Parliment didn't, the Welsh Assembly didn't, etc. Or is this just an anti English thing?

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Where do we stop?

Should we have a Yorkshire Parliament, a Midlands Parliament, a London Parliament?

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Your default rebuttal, if someone disagrees with you, seems to be 'are you anti-English'....

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

Because in our parliament in London the whole of the UK is represented including England ,we do not need an English parliament.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

Go point out where I have called anyone Anti English excluding my last comment?..... I'm waiting...

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I simply want what other people do for their own Nations. but I am told I must be British not English. and that if I say I am English and Proud, I am a racist?

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It was like that once, it changed on Friday. The Scottish are amazing, The Welsh are amazing, the Irish and Northern Irish are amazing and the English are amazing. There no getting this cat back in the bag, England is not a racist country as everyone here will agree. The English are amazing I'm sure everyone here will agree.

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@HUGH

I'm awaiting your evidence to back up your claim, or your apology. An we all know you're furiously going through my posting history:D:D:D

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

Please note, I am English first, British second, have Scottish heritage and live in Wales.

I can live with that why can't you?

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

What can't be live with what? Maybe just maybe he has his own opinion which is perfectly fine! He accepted your opinion, you seem to be struggling to accept his!

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One issue is that England is much bigger, richer and higher population than Wales or Scotland or NI so decisions made for England can have a greater impact on the others than the others have on England.

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I forgot to add, when living in Harrow I was the only Englishman in a house full of Irishmen with an Irish landlord.

You can and should be proud of being English as am I. It does not mean you are racist.

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Scotland managed to stop England extending Sunday trading laws, that had a massive impact on millions of English workers! An the SNP were very very proud of it, even though it didn't effect Scotland at all.

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Incase you were curious, I'm still waiting for your apology or evidence to back up what you've said?

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

After Scotland and N Ireland leaves, Westminster will be defacto an English partliament

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Doopey doooo hummmdeeeee hummmmmmm still waiting?:rolleyes:. Any apology humbly accepted.....

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post3510.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35845471-post88.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35846481-post201.html

and that's just the one's i read ,i'm sure there are other posts that have the same sentiment


Apologies Hugh not trying to steal your thunder or anything but did actually think the same as you ;)

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

So out of 173 post you find 3 examples out of which I said it once and that's your point? You didn't steal anyone's thunder. You did that on your own all by yourself kid.

But this a forum where a black women's centre is considered racist.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

didn't find them i remembered you posting them ,i'm sure if i look i will find more examples.......... sorry but you did ask :shrug:

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

If you can then please find more , we all have a posting history- yours is very interesting ;) but please post keep posting more of me calling people anti English, you've got 1 so far.

Infact if you don't find more I will consider You a failure, so please go prove me wrong.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

No, you're not having an English parliament.

This is the time we need to be a UNITED Kingdom.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

An you're not staying in the EU, so let's be UNITED!

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Still waiting?

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Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

If you are part of a "Union" that is transparent, inclusive and works for all, I'd say "Stay and participate fully".

The SNP wants full independence, but what has Scotland got? 2 main cities, a finite supply of oil and some whisky exports.

Now Plaid Cymru wants full independence, but what has Wales got? 1 main city, defunct coal and steel industries, plus some sheep.

But England is a different story, for the moment.

There are already "parliaments" for Scotland and Wales, with limited powers for national issues. So an English "parliament" with the same powers seems logical and fair.

But all I see is a monster growing: bureaucrats begetting more bureaucracy and more bureaucrats. And that costs money, money the "Union" needs for other things.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

You know as well as I do that what we've got doesn't even resemble a 'parliament'.

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I have no problem with him at all, but he has called me racist and says he can prove I answer everything with "you're anti English"

Now the racist thing is fine, I'm not racist and that's all I need to know but usually moderators step in to delete the posts and issue warning. So it seems I have to accept being called a racist on a public forum and the moderators accept this. But the "you're anti English" thing, actually yeah I have to accept that as well on the cable forum. But I do forward all comments/ threads I feel suitable to social media sites and other forums.

The world has changed, the English are not your whipping boys, accept and get progressive or get left behind with biggoted views.

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Tell that to the MSP's... Members of the Scottish Parliament. An it managed to prevent a change to English trading laws. Effecting the lives of millions of English people. An the remain votes of 2.5million scots seems to be reason for the Scottish parliament to consider overruling the votes of 17.5million British!

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

No, you use the 'report post' function and we'll decide what happens.

Why the hell would I want to tell that to MSPs? They have very little if any influence over my life.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

Sorry for making you wait, I was at work until recently - this was the one I remembered.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...l#post35844802 Please show me a post where I called you a racist.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

I agree we cannot allow the U K to split up, I am really worried for Scotland we know Sturgeon is doing her very best to break us up altogether, I want to be Scottish and British, not Scottish and European, God Help Us,

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

Can we get off this racism crap and deal with the real issues.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

No problem, I'm a patient guy, an I always have sympathy for shift workers.

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I thought Scotland voted in the majority to remain?

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

+1

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I don't work shifts

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"They" have very recently demanded that the name of the talking shop be changed to The Welsh Parliament.

Ego boosting I suspect.

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They should have NO influence over your daily life unless you were in Scotland.

Ditto the Welsh Assembly (spit) for anyone outside of Wales.

One day the Northern Ireland Assembly will stop the infighting and start working for the people of Northern Ireland.

So an English body should be formed to deal with purely English matters.

The biggest mistake of the present partition of responsibilities has been the fracturing of the NHS.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

That's what I mean. England would be out and Scotland could in, We must all be as one G B ,

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

Hugh, don't make matters worse. Or we could end up with a Middlesex Parliament. That will shock everyone. Its just on the borders of rich Surrey

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

Your posting style coupled with the way you can't be bothered or are unable to spell 'and' reminds me so much of another member - now sadly banned and oh so missed by many on here.

Cheers

Grim

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

It was a big mistake to devolve power to the other countries in the UK in the way they did.

It would have been far cheaper and just as effective if the MPs for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland took the decisions in respect of their own countries without the need and massive cost of building regional parliaments.

If it had been done that way they would have had more money to spend on dealing with issues in their own country.

Instead we now have the ridiculous situation of the English wanting an English parliament as well as a UK parliament. I wonder if there will be a regional parliament building for this new English parliament. What a waste of money.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

No matter were you are in the world there will always be some people that are racist.

English and proud time for a British Republic.

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Yes, reminds me of the same person as well Grim. Must be a coincidence....

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

There's a lot to be said for a Federal UK. The abbreviation is good for starters.

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 

Having an English Parliament is as big a waste of money as the creation of all the other devolved parliaments.

It would have been simpler and cheaper if we had English MPs taking the lead on English issues, Scottish MPs leading on Scottish issues, Welsh MPs leading on Welsh issues and Ulster MPs leading on Ulster issues. UK wide issues would involve all MPs.

The money spent building the parliament buildings could have been better spent on dealing with the issues that each nation has identified.

Devolved parliaments are a recipe for a disunited UK.

The problem is similar to the formation of the EU.

In the past Foreign secretaries and their departments negotiated trade deals with other countries.

Now we have the massive and highly expensive EU parliament and infrastructure plus meetings of EU leaders to do the same job.

If we had left things as they were, the money wasted setting up and maintaining the EU could have been spent on actual issues identified by national parliaments.