London Mayor - Pledges? What pledges?
 

Well did anyone expect it to be too long before the bus driver's son's pledges began to be rolled back?

What he said before being elected:

http://order-order.com/2016/06/08/sa...-clegg-moment/

and what's actually going to happen:

http://order-order.com/2016/06/08/kh...fares-to-rise/

Quelle surprise.

I await with interest the retraction of his pledge on affordable homes...

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Sadly most politicians say many things before they are elected and do exactly the opposite hence once they are elected.

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Never has the phrase "Those who most wish to rule are those least fit to do so" been so apt. :rolleyes:

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well you get what you vote for [liars]

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tbf, he actually said

Perhaps he intends to reduce the fares back down to present levels at the end of 2019... ;)

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Just in time for the next mayoral election probably... ;)


So when he said a fares freeze what he really meant not a fares freeze. Easy mistake... it must be confusing for him what with being a bus driver's son... :D


Hmmmm.... not exactly an unbiased source but that doesn't mean it's wrong of course:

http://www.mayorwatch.co.uk/how-mayo...es-in-one-day/

Now that didn't take long did it?...

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perhaps the truth isn't his first language ;)

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It doesn't appear so does it. Maybe he could have lessons and charge them to the taxpayer like so many of his peers did when they were justifying their expenses. After all the accusations of weasel words and duplicity levelled against Boris, it all starts to unravel for the bus driver's son a couple of weeks after the election.

Hey ho eh? Let's just have politicians who can promise what they like before elections knowing full well they can't deliver but by the time that's apparent it's going to be too late for anyone to do anything about it. I don't suppose any of that's going on in the current debate is it...

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Just another Labour rant ..

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What about the actual point of the OP - he said he would freeze fares for four years, and now they are going to be raised?

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Let's not get distracted from 'just another Labour rant' by just another 'I've got nothing to say about Labour lies and duplicity' post eh?... :D

Honestly you'd think these rose tinted folk would post some threads proving how well their party's performing since Corbyn pledged to do things as differently as Khan is. Odd that... :confused: :rofl:

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I am shocked!

Not really. It was a stupid pledge to make and it would have been obvious to anyone that it would be broken real quickly. If you travel to work and back 5 days a week then it will work out cheaper the only problem is that it makes a monthly ticket even worse value. It's already cheaper to do PAYG if you do 10 trips a week and this will make it more so.

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Still a Labour rant .. just look at the posting history. The aim is to rant about a Labour mayor and not to present an objective, balanced commentary on the new London mayor's policies ..

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How is it a rant when prior to being elected khan said one thing has since got elected and is now going back on it he either knowingly lied during the campaign or he is inept but either way so soon after getting elected he's reneging on one of his pledges. Anyone that accepts this is a bigger problem then the political windbag in my opinion and demonstrates why we manage to get such poor elected representatives in this country of all colours. Too many British people would vote for a turd if it had the right rosette on it, how about we rediscover our own value and then only vote for those who deserve it and if they are rubbish we bin them five years later. For too long the political parties have had no real value of the UK's citizens and we are partly to blame but if we really want better in future and prevent the likes of khan holding an office we need to do better first.

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If it's the truth is it a rant?

I do see lots of posts about the many uhh 'strange' things Labour do, but I'm not seeing many things posting to show them in a better light. We're not in a Conservative only forum, I'm sure there must be some stuff out there to show Labour in a more positive light, but I'm not really seeing that , why is that?

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+1

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Two failed and one invisible leader, two lost elections, no credible policies, a trail of broken promisies, the biggest economic bust since the thirties and a distain for the working class they claim to represent?

Not that the rest are much better but it's all a matter of degree.

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:clap:

It would also be pretty useful if the silent majority got off their backsides and got registered to vote and actually went to vote however appalling the choices seem..

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Indeed the choices are appalling but many people died so we could all vote nowadays so in my book there are no excuses not to vote.

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:tu:

There's a simple reason why some folks whine when their side's lies are exposed - the truth hurts.

There's a simple reason why this forum isn't full of threads extolling the virtues of the Labour party - even their own supporters around here can't think of any. :D

They may seek to deny the truth but they've nothing else to say...

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Whilst I don't have much time for labour we desperately need a credible opposition which we don't currently have and I think it's highly damaging for our democracy and although labour has mistakes in it's past let's not pretend they are the only one's.

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I'd agree and have said so in the past. IMHO the current government is in the process of making the biggest mistake of all by keeping us in the EU, but we already have a very big thread devoted to that.

So come on Labour luvvies, stop whining and start persuading us why we should vote for Corbyn and in the meantime, less of the denial about the subject of this threat, namely a new Labour Mayor (son of a bus driver for those who didn't know) who's already palpably failed to do what he promised.

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So why don't you balance the commentary by telling us how Khan hasn't lied through his back teeth to get into power ?

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Why should people vote for people/parties they don't support ? It simply isn't right to say people should vote regardless ,they have to have something to vote for . In our system not voting by enough people can send a pretty powerful message

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No it doesn't. It's a first past the post mentality and the winning party doesn't give a stuff about the fact that they don't have the support of anything up to 2/3rds of the electorate of voting age.They just simply ignore them.:rolleyes:

However if you won't be part of the process then you have no right to criticise the choice of those that did bother.:rolleyes:

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Because he can't, he's got nothing to say - just another sad Labour whinger ready to deny or excuse his party's lies and ineptitude. Just look at his posting history... :D

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It's also because this forum clearly trends to the right. Plenty of other platforms are dominated by Labour supporters, it just happens this isn't one of them.

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Yet rather than attempt to redress the balance with reasoned argument or even contradict the OP he resorts to it's 'another Labour rant blah blah blah...' Pathetic.

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My point was not to support or defend Mr Khan. My point was the endless sequence of biased Labour Rant threads .. but you knew that ..

Regarding Mr Khan, being a politician, he will lie. They all seem to do it nowadays, I mean, look at the Leave campaign ;) Why so surprised? He was either naive or stupid. Maybe when he got hold of Boris's financial accounts he realised there was no money to do what he has promised? Who knows ..

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Why make a promise if you don't know if you can fulfill it?

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You only see it as a rant because it is Labour involved .I agree though Osem does rail against Labour quite a lot ,but so do I and many others on this forum,maybe you should consider that the reason is because of the disappointment we feel in the labour party ,the party, that in these days of the super rich taking whatever they feel like, should be supporting the working man and should be the party i and perhaps Osem would be supporting if the party had any real substance .

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Oh come on ,London is hardly broke :rolleyes:

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A new contraction for Londoners to get used to? - khan't ;).

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Most people agree with what labour used to stand for and were happy to support it but these days few are sure what their core values are as they seem putting it politely fluid. Corbyn was a bad choice for leader far too divisive and his past alienates many, add in that he has been exposed by the EU referendum as someone more interested in party politics then being open and honest as he clearly is not a remain supporter only siding with remain to keep some mp's in the labour party happy and it's an unelectable mess which hands it to the conservatives.

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I thought it'd be Boris's fault... :rofl:

If Khan didn't know the numbers maybe he should have kept his big mouth shut and not just made a load of false promises. I dare say it'll also be Boris's fault that the bus driver's son made up some entirely ridiculous numbers for affordable housing in London and failed to meet them come the next election. Same old lies same old Labour.

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I actually watched London Tonight, and this was brought up - naturally.

And the point was brought about the fares in London.

Some points of the fares, was put in by The Government, and cannot be changed by Khan.

The mayor problem is that during the time that Boris, was London Mayor. He brought some items, that cannot be changed by Khan.

You see Khan, is picking up some crap brought out by a Tory

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http://www.mayorwatch.co.uk/sadiq-kh...ise-each-year/
I suggest you read this.

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Only in politics can you get off the hook by blaming predecessors so convenient and easy and best of all not only do we the public buy into it we fight each other over it genius planning.

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Rizzy, isn't that strange when members on this forum blame Labour for all the problems that have arisen in the UK. Before the Tories got into power

Didn't Boris. buy several water cannons at £250.000, which have NEVER BEEN USED in London.

What the shrewd Conservatives have done, is bring out laws that cannot be changed.

Didn't they pass a power to say that, elections would only been held every FIVE YEARS.

Mr Khan, has only been in power several weeks, and he has already been criticised.

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Well said Arthur .. not sure they would like you pointing out though ..

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Whilst there are, realistically, only 2 options it's likely to remain the case. It's a big ask voting for complete unknowns in any serious election so the big two benefit from the inertia and resulting apathy, knowing they can basically say pretty much what they want and still have a good chance.

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Pfft. People were blaming Ken Livingstone for things way into Boris' second term.

No. What happens is that the other transport networks have to be reimbursed by TFL for TFL-paid usage of their network. In this case those fares would not have been reduced making it more expensive, and unrealistic, for TFL to cut fares for them essentially subsidising their usage.

Kahn shouldn't have made the promise. He also made reference to the rising price of travel cards in an article he wrote so it's not unreasonable to expect that would have been included in the price freeze.

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Rant:

Seems about right ..

The ranting is not because of "disappointment in the labour party" ... if there was a balance of threads where the current Government was brought to account on their failings (yes, there are some) then you may have a point. Or, threads about things that the Government oppostion may have deserved credit for (yes, believe it or not, there are some) then, again, you may have a point. But ...

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Then highlight some of these high points for the opposition, sorry but complaining about a thread when your first contribution is "another labour rant" is a bit rich really.

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It could also be pretty useful if the noisy minority stayed at home sat on their hands.

One excuse is that many people died so we could all have the freedom of choice not to vote if we don't want to.

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Thanks for making my point.

Khan and now is, however, the subject of this thread and all the pre-election guff about being different was clearly just a lot of hot air. Despite being a bus driver's son he's really no different from the rest and an even bigger let down to the ordinary people he made so much fuss about representing.

The silence from the rose tinted crew is truly deafening... :D

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Rich? Nope .. just accurate ..

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Yes, because they were basically forced into it by the Lib-Dems.

Your beloved Labour supported the policy, allthough they did try to alter it to four years, not five.

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Thank you for detailing the meaning of the name Cameron. How apt. Obviously his parent's were psychic!

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If we were to have a law that says we're allowed to beat the liar with a stick if it's shown that the person lied. then they wouldn't do it.