S4C HD
 

Anybody know which channel number this is? I can't find it

Thanks

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Channel 166 according to https://www.s4c.cymru/e_how_digital.shtml

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It's not in HD on my tv

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Just contacted S4C and they say that some football matches will be on in HD on the Virgin platform in the next week or 2 which I don't care about , but as a standalone channel there will not be HD on Virgin Media. Just sky and Freesat.

How pathetic. People in Scotland can get S4C HD on Sky but I can't get it on Virgin even though it's being broadcast 2 miles away from my house. The mind boggles.

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Sorry, didn't spot that. According to http://www.a516digital.com/2016/04/s...-commence.html, the HD service was closed several years ago due to funding cuts, but they are currently testing a new HD service on satellite only.

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Just showing the Euros in HD on cable in my book is an own goal. :D

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S4C are probably still looking at the costs involved. Virgin only really covers Cardiff, Newport & Swansea in Wales, so its a big outlay to cover a small area, even if they chose to restrict output to Welsh headends.

The HD service cannot go on Freeview either, as there is no capacity available.

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Watched a bit of the Wales game on S4C yesterday, the quality of picture was appalling, very grainy, not just explained by SD . Commentary sounded entertaining though, they got a bit excited about the goals!

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I watch alot of sport on S4C and the feed is the worst I have seen on television. It's like stepping back in time and watching an early Eurotrash episode. Awful.

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Eurotrash is coming back

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Will probably have a better picture than S4C SD

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It's not worth watching anyway

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-37573615

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Tbf they do show quite a bit of live rugby and soccer. More than any other Freeview channel? Massive game on Saturday , Bala v Alloa (stuff the Premiership...)

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There's a lot of repeats, but there are some very good programmes on there. Y Gwyll (Hinterland on BBC) will be starting again at the end of October and the Ralio programme is probably the best rallying coverage available on non subscription TV

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Any danger of getting s4c HD to Virgin anytime soon lads?

It's been on Freeview and Sky since May apparently. But not on my tv package.

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Its on Sky & FREESAT, which S4C pays for in one transaction direct with the satellite operator, plus a nominal charge to appear in the EPG's of the platforms mentioned.

S4C HD is not available on Freeview due to capacity restrictions (the slot it would use on PSB3 is allocated to Channel 4 HD in the whole of the UK).

More than likely its not on VM due to cost. As mentioned before, VM coverage in Wales is very limited for what S4C would have to pay out to add HD to the platform.

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I agree, as I don't think that it's for technical or capacity reasons. The feed was present off the EPG all the time when it wasn't made available for the football matches.

I'm surprised that it would cost VM anything to carry it though, aren't all PSB channels carried on a cost neautral basis??

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I see, thanks. It's extremely frustrating though that it's on SKY and not VirginMedia. I pay a hefty sum each month for my tv package, yet Freesat users get this channel and I don't. I tweeted them and in fairness they did respond saying they are looking into the possibility of it coming to VM.

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S4C's always been a bit poor at aiming its HD services on to the right platforms.

For example, in 2010 they had their HD service on freeview only. The problem was that S4C's main audience is in rural North, Mid and West Wales, where freeview (let alone HD) was near enough impossible to receive at the time, so many were using satellite instead. It didn't last that long.

Now however freeview HD is more widespread and covers all areas where freeview is available, but S4C aren't on it yet. It would have made much more sense to reverse the plan and roll out on satellite first, and then freeview.

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While the powers that be have seen fit to offer S4C SD PSB capacity on Freeview (which they inheritied from analogue), this was never extended to HD coverage & was never included in network planning. So while you could say the SD version of the channel is classed as a PSB channel, if OFCOM doesn't treat the HD version as such, then no-one else is obliged to either.

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I think its more a case of can't than won't. The only HD capacity available on Freeview ATM is on Mux 7 & 8. Only 3 transmitters in the whole of Wales have channel allocations for these muxes due to ITU restrictions imposed to protect Ireland's "airspace". These only cover SE & NE Wales. Mux 7 & 8 are also UK wide licences, so would require S4C to provide its HD service to the whole of the UK.

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That's a bonus.............:rolleyes:

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Thanks, I didn't realise that Ofcom were still not treating the HD variants as PSB channels.

This will have to change in time as the PSB SD channels will be closed at some point on Freeview at least, by 2020 is when this is expected to happen.

Perhaps S4C HD will return full time to VM when it's classed as a PSB channel that VM don't have to pay for??