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1andrew1 23-05-2016 12:58

Ten 300 Mbps locations confirmed
 
Kirknewton (West Lothian)
Houston, Crosslee, Craigends and Brookfield (Renfrewshire)
Bridge of Weir (Renfrewshire)
Ratby (Leicestershire)
Wilsden (West Yorkshire)
Kilmacolm (Inverclyde)
Stoke Poges (Buckinghamshire)
Lightwater (Surrey)
Hartley Wintney and Phoenix Green (Hampshire)
Oakley (Dorset)
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...-supercharged/

Pierre 23-05-2016 15:36

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Not just 300meg but these will all be fttp.

Gavin78 23-05-2016 15:39

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Wilsden (West Yorkshire)

lol so they are testing people in a village just outside of Bradford.

What do they hope to gain from testing it in a village with a small number of people

Paul 23-05-2016 15:48

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Exactly the same as if they tested it anywhere else, what diferrence does it make ?

BenMcr 23-05-2016 15:49

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They aren't testing anything. This is an extension to the Virgin Media network, and the areas selected were based on the number of interested people in those communities.

http://about.virginmedia.com/press-r...tainment-boost

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The 10 communities, which will see fibre broadband delivered directly to premises, received the most votes as part of Virgin Media’s ‘Supercharging Local Communities’ initiative.

Gavin78 23-05-2016 15:58

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35839248)
Exactly the same as if they tested it anywhere else, what diferrence does it make ?

Testing something on a handful of people isn't the same as testing it on a bigger town or a city. Not if those people they are testing it on are only checking emails or watching the odd netflix program.

Kushan 23-05-2016 16:18

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35839254)
Testing something on a handful of people isn't the same as testing it on a bigger town or a city. Not if those people they are testing it on are only checking emails or watching the odd netflix program.

Jealous much? :P

Who are you to say what those people will do with it, just because they live in a small villiage?

There's far more to this than just the number of people served, for all you know there's a node right next to the village that would make the cost of deployment relatively cheap. For all you know, they're testing what the costs of a small village deployment will be in case it makes sense to target other villages instead of large cities. Maybe the small number is ideal for Virgin because it allows them to trial FTTP without having to serve thousands of people. For all you know, it's cheaper to deploy it to this village because there's a lot less red tape compared to some large metropolis.

Either way, they don't just throw darts at a map, you can guarantee that these 10 places have been picked for a reason.

spiderplant 23-05-2016 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35839241)
Wilsden (West Yorkshire)

lol so they are testing people in a village just outside of Bradford.

What do they hope to gain from testing it in a village with a small number of people

Population 4807 (thank you, Wikipedia). Not exactly a small village.

jungleguy 23-05-2016 17:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35839241)
Wilsden (West Yorkshire)

lol so they are testing people in a village just outside of Bradford.

What do they hope to gain from testing it in a village with a small number of people

because its cheap, but sounds good in the media.

Pierre 23-05-2016 18:41

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It's not a test. The test was done well over a year ago in Papworth, Cambridgeshire.

Since then fttp has been deployed in Leicestershire and now to these other areas.

This is to reinforce the idea that if you get enough people to sign up then they'll build it.

pip08456 23-05-2016 19:25

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It doesn't matter where it's deployed there will always be those that complain because they can't get it ATM.

It's the whole spoilt brat approach.

"I want it and I want it NOW!"

Ignitionnet 23-05-2016 19:25

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35839254)
Testing something on a handful of people isn't the same as testing it on a bigger town or a city. Not if those people they are testing it on are only checking emails or watching the odd netflix program.

Given that's what most people do with their connections if this were a test it would make sense to do it in such areas.

jungleguy 23-05-2016 19:53

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35839280)
It's not a test. The test was done well over a year ago in Papworth, Cambridgeshire.

Since then fttp has been deployed in Leicestershire and now to these other areas.

This is to reinforce the idea that if you get enough people to sign up then they'll build it.

Papwoth was a trial, it wasn't based on customer demand, and penetration was pretty poor due to BT Infinity being in the area and VM billing system being a bit of an achilles heel as offers require a phone line.

If anyone with access experience will tell you, these areas they are building are within spitting distance of their existing network. I think cable my street enquiries have little influence in where they go. More a case of finding 2 spare fibres which are less than 1km dig from core network.

raging bull 23-05-2016 19:59

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My younger sister living in Wilsden will not complain at all!
Currently using BT wet string.

pip08456 23-05-2016 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jungleguy (Post 35839307)
Papwoth was a trial, it wasn't based on customer demand, and penetration was pretty poor due to BT Infinity being in the area and VM billing system being a bit of an achilles heel as offers require a phone line.

If anyone with access experience will tell you, these areas they are building are within spitting distance of their existing network. I think cable my street enquiries have little influence in where they go. More a case of finding 2 spare fibres which are less than 1km dig from core network.

Surely if VM (or any other provider) has enough interest for a service which makes it financially viable they will do it.

Gavin78 23-05-2016 20:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35839257)
Jealous much? :P

Who are you to say what those people will do with it, just because they live in a small villiage?

There's far more to this than just the number of people served, for all you know there's a node right next to the village that would make the cost of deployment relatively cheap. For all you know, they're testing what the costs of a small village deployment will be in case it makes sense to target other villages instead of large cities. Maybe the small number is ideal for Virgin because it allows them to trial FTTP without having to serve thousands of people. For all you know, it's cheaper to deploy it to this village because there's a lot less red tape compared to some large metropolis.

Either way, they don't just throw darts at a map, you can guarantee that these 10 places have been picked for a reason.



jealous? give me a break I don't really care I have 200mb and I think it's overkill I only have it as the package deal worked out not much cheaper than dropping down.

But there is at least 3/4 of us at any one time on the net doing various stuff I don't use netflix but I think 100mb would be more than enough. At least atm

I wasn't saying what they can and can't do in any event only speculating a small village vs a town for testing purposes I don't have VM's reasons for doing it just having an opinion

pip08456 23-05-2016 20:50

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35839325)
jealous? give me a break I don't really care I have 200mb and I think it's overkill I only have it as the package deal worked out not much cheaper than dropping down.

But there is at least 3/4 of us at any one time on the net doing various stuff I don't use netflix but I think 100mb would be more than enough. At least atm

I wasn't saying what they can and can't do in any event only speculating a small village vs a town for testing purposes I don't have VM's reasons for doing it just having an opinion

It has already been tested/trialed. It is now being deployed.

Ignitionnet 23-05-2016 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jungleguy (Post 35839307)
Papwoth was a trial, it wasn't based on customer demand, and penetration was pretty poor due to BT Infinity being in the area and VM billing system being a bit of an achilles heel as offers require a phone line.

If anyone with access experience will tell you, these areas they are building are within spitting distance of their existing network. I think cable my street enquiries have little influence in where they go. More a case of finding 2 spare fibres which are less than 1km dig from core network.

Wonder when the 10GPON they tested in Papworth will be going live.

I can see how the lack of a phone line in the RFoG areas is problematic.

The Leeds villages stuff involves more than a 1km dig from core.

I fully imagine the business case for enabling areas is way better when they are close to the core, so expressions of interest required are lower.

Or it could be a gimmick :)

Pierre 23-05-2016 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jungleguy (Post 35839307)
Papwoth was a trial,


And in the context of these thread and the comment made, the difference between a test and a trial is what exactly.

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these areas they are building are within spitting distance of their existing network.
no sheet Sherlock, they're not going to build 10's of km away from existing network.

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cable my street enquiries have little influence in where they go.
. Yes it does. There are lots of places nationally that are within building distance of the VM network. If there are guaranteed customers that's where they'll go first. You Obviously have very little grasp of what you trying to talk about authoritively.

MrIca 24-05-2016 10:34

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Not a great deal going on in North West England yet is there?

1andrew1 24-05-2016 11:38

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Originally Posted by MrIca (Post 35839386)
Not a great deal going on in North West England yet is there?

Or Northern Ireland and London. Maybe that's because these areas are pretty well covered by VM compared to other parts of the country?

23prince 24-05-2016 13:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raging bull (Post 35839310)
My younger sister living in Wilsden will not complain at all!
Currently using BT wet string.


She probably will when it slows down in the evenings.Which I am sure it will no matter how it's delivered.

JordanTheToaster 24-05-2016 13:14

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Originally Posted by 23prince (Post 35839414)
She probably will when it slows down in the evenings.Which I am sure it will no matter how it's delivered.

I have had 300 for 2 months now and I've slowed down under 250 4 times in these 2 months.

heardd05 24-05-2016 14:51

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how much do you pay a month for that service david

23prince 24-05-2016 15:33

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Originally Posted by JordanTheToaster (Post 35839416)
I have had 300 for 2 months now and I've slowed down under 250 4 times in these 2 months.

Which means you are one of the lucky ones in a good area. I've had 300 3 times since the start of May the rest of the time it's sub 50m, to throw context on it.

And yes - I am dumping it within the first 28 days.

BenMcr 24-05-2016 15:46

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The standard Money Back Guarantee and cancellation policy is 14 days, not 28 days.

MUD_Wizard 26-05-2016 02:13

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35839334)
Or it could be a gimmick :)

Cynic! Though probably true.

They're doing a Google, milking the press in stages with winners of the golden ticket.


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