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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35672158

6 years in the job and he and his Governments policies are still failing. None of the extra cuts will be affecting him and his millionaire cabinet colleagues of course. No doubt the poor, disabled and children will be targeted again, leeches that they are.

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I'll get in first: it is Labour's fault ..

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And MPs are to get 1.3% pay rise breaking the government's own cap.:(

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...lic-sector-cap

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It's a bit unfair of you to blame Labour for ;)

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Just getting in first to avoid the rush ;)

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Wise move... :)

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Over the last 9 months MP's have had an 11.8% pay rise.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-warns-7450565

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So it's all Thatchers fault. Just for balance. :D

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Yes, it's only been 25 years since she was in power... :D

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Don't worry it won't be long before George has a fair bit of flak coming his way.;):D

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If there was a half decent opposition that'd be a lot more likely but the truth is that Corbyn's cronies couldn't hit a barn from the inside.

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That will change... every dog has it's day.

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If you think that you could do better then get yourself elected, get on the cabinet and do a budget..

:rolleyes:

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You make it sound so easy, which I guess it is if you go to Eton...

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Like Margaret Thatcher or John Major?

Perhaps it would have been better if he went to a private Prep school and a selective grammar like some other?

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There's no shortage of stereotyping around here is there, especially amongst those who routinely turn a blind eye to Labour's very own toffs, would be toffs and plain hypocrites who choose private education for their own kids whilst campaigning to stop anyone else doing the very same thing.

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No cleatly not like thatcher or major, they were a dying breed 5 years ago.

Like some other what?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12282505

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Yawn

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All getting away from the fact that Osborne's policies have failed. The pain he's inflicted on the country has been for nothing. We're still massively in debt and needing to borrow after 6 years of his medicine. Blaming Labour won't wash any longer. The small recovery we did have he's managed to choke off with his austerity obsession. Someone needs to tell him to leave the stage and take his neighbour with him. Buffoon Boris will be a welcome relief.

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Enough time has passed since Paris so the Police and security services can get another hammering.

More sneaky raids on pension schemes and perhaps an end to the freeze on fuel duty as well.

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Well they can only take from those who have. Yet another disincentive to save for the future...

Private pensions were raided by Brown and so it will continue.

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Like Jeremy Corbyn...

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Jermey Corbyn - a career politican who's never done a real day's work in his life and behaves like a 1970's student union rep. Talk about out of touch.

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Nobody defending Osborne here, even the Tory faithful.... Just the usual Labour are somehow to blame for everything, forever; the records wearing very thin.

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I did say you had to get in early :) Repeat after me .. Tory good .. Labour bad ...

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I think the reality is, regardless of who's in power, if after x no of years, the situations not measurably improved, you blame the Finance guy - in this case Osbourne.

He should be sweating a bit, Camerons not going to give a toss, he's already said he won't be PM for term 3, Ossie boys got his eye on that job though, and it may not happen if he keeps fumbling the finances.

Yes I know we can blame the Chinese or the eskimos or whatever, but the axe drops on the guy in the hot seat, just like it does for an England Manager who's underperformed.

And at this point, it's going to be a bit futile to blame Labour now, people will only stomach so much 'medicine' and then they'll want to see some sort of end to it, that point of evaporating goodwill is fast approaching, Ossie's asscheeks should be clenching - just a little.

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I had high hopes for him but wouldn't go as far as like, oh I see what you're doing, you're attempting to deflect criticism away from the conservative party by bringing labour into it,, I should've guessed it's a tactic you use so often, it's probably more effective on people that have actually voted labour though.

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No, I am saying that people need to be consistent in their criticism....

Strange how it's bad for some to have a privileged upbringing, but not others...

Reverse snobbery

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Repeat after me - consistency good, slanted arguments bad...

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I am consistent, I dislike most politicians until they prove me wrong. It's not bad to have a privileged upbringing either imo, it's very wrong to use to old boy network for a leg up beyond your abilities though, it's something that has riven this country to its detriment for centuries and it's about to we grew up as a nation and said enough enough

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The extent to which Osborne will be judged harshly will be determined mainly by how well, or badly, the UK is doing compared to the rest of Europe and other countries. Right now we're still growing when much of the EU either isn't or is hardly at all. The final choice at election time will not only be down to how well the electorate believe he's performed but also how credible the alternative is. Right now Labour's looking unelectable and the longer that carries on the less Osborne has to worry about.

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Hugh, you must stop repeating yourself ;) I am just trying to get used to the posting style this forums prefers. I mean, let's face it, trying to debate on here is a struggle ..

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No. They won't.

They won't give a toss about any other countries, they'll care about the one they are in. The one that affects them. Personally.

The next election isn't in the scope of this thread.

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George promised to get rid of the national debt by the end of his first parliament. Not only did he massively fail but , despite all the pain, it's continued to rise to £1.53 trillion! Just as well he's not on performance related pay.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk...ebt_chart.html

We had the hint of a recovery but his 'medicine' has killed it. Things are looking very gloomy again. How he and his Govt. got re-elected continues to amaze me.

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Gonna have to agree to disagree about that and the next election is when any serious arse kicking by the electorate will be done and Labour's economic credibility at that point will matter hugely also. People are and will continue to be affected differently by everything which happens and if they were going to act in the way you describe why did the Tories, Osborne and austerity get elected less than 2 years ago?

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God knows why...

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It's a shame that our MPs don't lead by example.

They can't be surprised that other workers on lower salaries want a pay rise even more when they see overpaid MPs getting one.

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Cutting expenditure wont fuel growth, but these people never learn.

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errr no he didn't

I don't know if that is ignorance on your part or a lie

He promised to get rid of the deficit ... that is how much we have to borrow every year just to pay the bills .. and whilst he hasn't got rid of it he has reduced it year on year

Conflating it with the national debt is dishonest and designed to inflame those who don't realise the difference.

So just to recap ... until the deficit is gone the debt will keep on rising... the deficit was inherited after the crash ... The deficit is being reduced not as fast as promised but it is being reduced despite global economic turmoil

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So just to recap, even when a mistake in a previous post is corrected to show George was talking about getting rid of a smaller more manageable figure, he still failed so the rest of us will have to suffer some more. Well most of us unless you're a member of the Osborne family then it's nose in the trough as usual.

Cheers

Grim

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Fixed that for you... ;)

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Thanks Hugh but loosing the link to the article about the Osborne family business still managing to pay out £335,000 in dividends at the same time as things being so bad that it pays no corporation tax is poor editing. Unless you think what they are doing is morally acceptable?

Cheers

Grim

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While we're on about companies which arrange their affairs, legally, to minimise what they pay in tax, let's not forget all the celebrity luvvies, footballers, musicians, TV presenters, etc. etc. etc. who do exactly the same. Let's especially not forget those who at the same time preach 'morality' to the rest of us...

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especially as:

IFS report dispels Osborne’s myth that we’re “all in it together”

http://www.theredroom.org.uk/wp-cont...n-HEADLINE.jpg

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Are these the same 'celebrities' who the government have named and shamed for using 'legal' tax minimising schemes?

Cheers

Grim

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Small number of people at the top living in luxury. Millions of ordinary people living in austerity. I seem to remember something similar to that in France way back in 1789 and we all know what happened then.

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Are you suggesting we'll be-head our aristo's including her majesty?:D

Mind you I wouldn't be aversed to seeing Blair's neck on the block.

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No way! She's a national treasure!!

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from your report

report] confirms that the richest have lost the most from the Government’s changes to taxes and welfare. Treasury analysis has shown that throughout the parliament that the richest 10 per cent of households have made the largest contribution to reducing the deficit. The Treasury presents the most complete, rigorous and detailed record of the impact of this government's policies on households. At Autumn Statement this confirmed that the richest 20 per cent of households will contribute more to reducing the deficit than the remaining 80 per cent put together.”

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It should come as no suprise that when the government reduce what it is paying out, that those who receive the most lose the most and those that receive little are "remarkably unscathed"

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You do know that Corporation Tax is paid on profits for that year, not turnover, don't you?

The previous years there had been losses in the business, with no dividends paid - link to annual reports here.

From Wiki - Osborne & Little recorded a pre-tax profit of £722,000 on turnover of £34 million in 2014/5. The highest paid director, possibly Peter Osborne, was paid £684,000. Using the 2014/15 UK income tax calculator reveals this would result in combined income tax and national insurance deductions of £310,838.28.

In 2015 it was revealed by Private Eye that, despite having made a pre-tax profit of £722,000, the company paid no corporation tax for the year 2015 – thereby avoiding a "tax bill" of £179,000. The magazine also revealed that the company had not paid any corporation tax since 2008 and had even received a tax credit of £12,000 in the year 2010. This was due to the company making losses totaling £9 million between 2009 and 2014, which allow the carry forward of credits for losses against the 2015 corporation tax bill.

Do you think that all of the hundreds of thousands of companies that offset Corporation Tax because of trading losses are in the wrong, or just Osborne & Little?

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The worst thing about Labour's incompetence at the moment is that Osborne doesn't have anyone to really call him out on his budget. He hasn't done that well really. This last year is peak-Osborne. He introduced tax credits amongst a bullish assessment of the economy, he then rolled that back after a HoL rebellion and 'finding' a couple of billion down the sofa, and now it seems he is going to have to cut hard and quickly. He keeps making optimistic deadlines for when the deficit will be cut before missing them.

It's 6 years on now. He can't, although probably will, come out with the 'fixed the roof when the sun was shining' metaphor because he isn't.

The main argument in his favor is that you have Mao-quoting, IRA-supporting, incompetent opposite him. However if your strongest suit is that you're not John McDonnell then you have problems.

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I really haven't got a problem with the rich who pay what they should, and do in fact pay in far more than they get out. My problem is with the rich who lecture the rest of us about morality and charity whilst doing their utmost to avoid paying UK tax by, for example, moving to places like Monaco.

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Reminds me about Cameron's pledge for the cabinet the publish their own tax returns. It's never happened, wonder why?

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Something which Gideon said was morally reprehensible

Sorry my mistake, morally repugnant were his exact words, which is kinda worse really

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35822153-post25.html

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Well, Osborne & Little are in good company using deferred tax credits, with the Guardian Media Group and Trinity Mirror using deferred tax credits of millions of pounds in 2013 and 2014 - strange no one is outraged about them...

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Firstly, the present problems and the past has NOTHING to do with a Labour Government.

Since Cameron and his puppets got into power. They have well looked after each other, paid themselves lots of money in pay rises.

And yet the rest of the country, have really suffered. My son who is diables, as had his benefit cut in two. By the shameful DWS.

The Conservative lovers on this forum, who say. Where does this extra money come from.
Quite simple, stop sending millions of pounds oversea's. Stop finding money to help countries.

then there wont be any problems on Budget.

I suggest everyone watch the YouTube item on Mhaini Black, who is MP in Scotland.

This is the type of MP, to run the Labour Party. She has spoken from the heart. And brilliant.

Obviously, her speech was in a nearly empty house. But this is what the Labour Party need.

When Osborne makes his Austery cuts, he will tear more money back from us - yet, pay the cronies, who play on there ipads, and fall sleep in the House.

There is one big difference in this country, the rich, and the poor. There are two divides

Corbyn, doesn't have the bottle to take on Cameron, this is why the Tories, will be around for many years.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...feated-7467001

Just come in

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Umm she's SNP not Labour and it's MHAIRI (Maybe the Scots can't spell Mary)

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It was a hypothetical question. Miss Black spoke with passion, for her voters. This why she got elected.

She should take over from Corbyn (by joining Labour)

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Gideon is outraged for one, they're all fine examples of what he called morally repugnant

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If Labour hadn't gone on a splurge of spending and borrowing then maybe further cutbacks might not have been needed and the country could weather out any impending international economic storm.

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No, they're not - you are deliberately mis-quoting him, as he was talking about people/companies who set up/utilise dodgy tax-avoidance schemes which would be challenged by HMRC, whereas in this case we are discussing something that is on the HMRC website, with guidance, and that is used every year by thousands of companies legally and without challenge from the HMRC.

But you already knew that, but didn't let it stop you making a cheap political point...:dozey:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17525977 Deferred tax credits are no more morally repugnant than pension tax relief - they are both defined and managed by HMRC, under strict guidelines.

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The spending wasn't actually excessive the problem was how thin the tax base was. Much as it is now actually, the economy having not been balanced.

I am guessing this is a bad thread to ask for ways to mitigate the insane tax rate at £100k?

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If the economy is supposed to be doing well and you are still have to borrow to cover your spending, you are spending too much. If the borrowing was a sign of the economy being bad, then Labour screwed the economy up by around 2000. If there wasn't excessive spending back then, what would there be to cut back?

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How many times has the budget been in surplus in the past 30 years?

Deficit versus growth and what the deficit is being spent on are key. Not making essential investment shifts bills onto the following generations too, and potentially at higher interest rates.

Debt to GDP ratio matters, not nominal debt.

Simply saying surplus good, deficits bad is a gross oversimplification. A fair amount of the relaxation of austerity the Chancellor has done has actually been the right kind - they went after the 'easy' and expedient savings and quickly realised this was a bad idea.

Some of it, however, the more cynically politically motivated cuts and short-termist sales of assets, is nuts.

The ongoing shifting of more activities onto local authorities while continuing to cut their budgets so that they rather than central government will take blame for example is repugnant.

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Incidentally the major issue is that ridiculous requirement to be running a surplus in 'normal' times.

The Chancellor is hoist on his own petard, has robbed himself of flexibility, and has run the economy for political and ideological ends way too much.

The OBR predicted that private debt would be the substitute for public borrowing and that is, with interest, what is happening.

The economy is more dependent on services than ever before after it became politically expedient to ignore rebalancing attempts.

We have had a big asset price boom that's led to huge amounts of capital not generating any economic growth. Employment is high but productivity is still in the toilet - the jobs don't seem to have been much good.

The economy is very precarious indeed and this is nothing to do with Labour but a Chancellor whose long term economic plan is more like a long term plan to try and become the Prime Minister.

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Cheap political points, like trying to bring the mirror or the Guardian into the discussion and I'm sure you know in the same speech he was talking about clamping down on firms hiding in tax havens, guess who does business with one such firm

http://www.channel4.com/news/george-...-offshore-firm

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This.

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Georges gift to the hard up rich of cutting the top rate of tax has cost the country £2.4bn - clever old George. Doubtless he'll get it back from the disabled or children.http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6905836.html

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Who in their right mind believes a word pretty much any politician says, Gideon is a snake and a charlatan just like the rest of them, no better no worse

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Linky

And if you don't like that source try this one

It all depends on who you believe.

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Perhaps a more credible source is this paper from the LSE:

cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/EA029.pdf

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I don't believe George or The Sun that's for sure. Tax receipts from the rich may have gone up this year, but only because one's clever accountant has shifted one's income into the cheaper tax year. The net loss to the Tax payer has been £2.6bn. He must take us all for muppets.

I see the Torygraph are called for more tax cuts for higher earners or what it calls 'middle classes'. Someone need to tell them that the average wage in the UK is £26k.

You can certainly see where Georges priorities lie, with his rich mates and those that don't need the money. The rest of us can suffer more cuts to pay for it. The rich get richer and the poor continue to get poorer - life under the Tories. Still it's what we all voted for isn't it ? :rolleyes:

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Massive increase in personal tax allowance threshold, living wage boost. I'm sure those in receipt are poorer. :confused:

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A personal tax allowance increase at the same time as a national insurance increase that will more than wipe it out for millions. http://paullewismoney.blogspot.co.uk...-millions.html

As for the living wage in ain't fully coming in till 2020! By then it might not seem that generous an amount.

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As he said, not fully coming in until 2020 then

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And a lot of things can happen between now and 2020 as we all know..

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All bets are off so far as I can see and whichever colour of incumbent government we get I expect future changes to such things as pensions, personal taxation, benefits etc. to be more drastic and happen far more frequently than ever before. Gone are the days when planning ahead meant planning for retirement 30 or 40 years hence with some semblance of certainty - a) an awful lot of people now at work will never be able to retire and b) the goalposts are going to be moved repeatedly in one way or another that it's impossible to plan for anything other than a few years ahead.

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Young people starting their working lives now will probably have to work until they are 75 according to government hints in the pension review that is going to be taking place in the next 14 months.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...nsion-age.html

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Might that be because they are going to live longer?

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The thing is there will be some who will remain in good health who will probably be capable of working up to 75 but then there are also the workers who do tough physical manual work who are going to find it very hard continuing to do physical manual work up to 75.

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Yes it's all very well saying that people can't retire until they're 75, for example, but what jobs are these people going to do at that age and won't they simply be taking work that would otherwise have gone to younger people starting out on their careers?

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It's going to be a big burden for employers. Imagine all the 'reasonable adjustments' they are going to have to make for doddery 75 year olds, how productive are they going to be, will they be more of a liability than is worthwhile ?

I don't quite believe lifespans are extending as fast as the govt. is claiming. They seem to be changing this every couple of years now. How is anybody supposed to plan for retirement ? There's an element of cost cutting going on here. Another one of George's 'invisible' cuts that is going to affect the poor most.

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http://www.theguardian.com/money/201...pension-reform

George has bottled another decision on pensions for the rich. Mustn't upset the Daily Fail or Torygraph voters.

Where will his axe fall in the budget;
children again? the NHS? the disabled? Boris?

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This further erodes the fast disappearing "We are all in it together" premise. With these sort of things going on:

IDS urges Tory MPs to vote through cuts to disability benefits - despite his own watchdog warning they are unfair

it only goes to reinforce the perception that this government is far removed from the One-nation conservatism of Disraeli et al.

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Hate to break it to you but government deficit's are a normal thing, as far back as records have been done which is a 100+ years the vast majority of years have all the rich countries running a deficit.

There is nothing wrong with deficit's (and borrowing) providing there is economical growth.

Like the same in modern day to day business, even large corporates like BT borrow money to fund investments, they even borrowed to give out payments to shareholders.

Sadly the current government have brainwashed a lot of people into thinking it is some kind of unsustainable situation to have a deficit.

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agree with all of that. :tu:

The most devious is probably the shifting of costs to councils, as most people are completely unaware of what is happening there.

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I assume you're a supporter of the privately educated multi millionaire Jeremy Corbyn. I assume he also has private health care?

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Why are you are so fixated with Mr Corbyn's personal habits? This is bordering on the weirdly obsessive .. Has he run over your cat or something?

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I don't own a cat, did IDS run over yours?

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Echoing the comments above that George should have maybe staying with History:

George Osborne would fail his economics GCSE – he can’t even get the basics

Depressing ..

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Has anybody checked George's GCSE certificates ? He probably just bought them.

Not that you need any qualifications to be Chancellor of the Exchequer - could be one of the reasons we're continually in deficit...

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He definitely needs a rethink, endless cutting only gets you so far.

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"..The Institute for Fiscal Studies’ illuminating green budget shows that by 2019/20, public expenditure outside health.."

bloody tories protecting health services .. oh wait

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.. but cutting other services .. no need to wait

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Except they aren't. They're protecting a subset while moving burdens onto local authorities whose budgets they are continuing to cut aggressively so that they have someone else to blame.

It's part of the reason they don't want a more efficient, integrated health and care system. They'd have to widen the ring fence and either spend more or take some blame for the pain their cuts are causing.

This is also why they are so in favour of elected mayors - gives another level of scapegoat for their own cuts to local authority budgets.

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I remember reporting here about the reenablement program where hospitals are discharging patients into the care of carers funded by the council, someone on here asked me to post proof which I duly did, that person never replied since on the subject. Its as if people pretend this isnt happening, hands over ears.

On top of that they enforced handcuffs to councils by disallowing council tax rises above 2%, as well as forcing them to protect pensioners on council tax benefit cuts.

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Oh dear, George out has run out of money ...
http://www.theguardian.com/business/...budget-obr-pay

His much promised wages growth hasn't happened, so he can't grab as much tax..

Or can he? I'd stock up on wine, beer and fuel this week....

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Yes I expect the budget will be 'interesting'

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6927056.html

George's latest wheeze; cut another £150 a week in disability benefits to fund further tax cuts for the rich. Needing to go to the toilet or dress are unnecessary luxuries and they don't need help with that.

I think he's a modern day Robin Hood, but he's just got things the wrong way round... Easy mistake to make...

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They've really got a hard on for the disabled, its completely meaningless while they waste 12+ Billion /yr on Foreign aid, the savings made from cutting benefits pales into insignificance, I think sensible people realised cuts needed to be made, and on the whole, have stood them with reasonable good grace, but we're now some 6 years in and no end in sight, Civil Service infrastructure is at its lowest since WW 2

Ossie needs to get a grip his one trick pony act isn't cutting it, and they'll get punished next Election, even if Labour are unelectable, people just may well vote UKIP/Lib Dem as Fark you gesture. UKIP may actually get some MP's next time especially if as I expect, we don't vote to leave the EU.

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Why should disabled people get weekly payments for aids and appliances they already have

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Seem to remember a lot of people saying that last election and still haven't come to terms with that fact they where wrong .Just because someone is disabled does not mean they should be the recipient of a never ending supply of money

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Thats just wrong, you see the promise of 'Jam tomorrow' remember that? only works as long as Tomorrow comes, we've been cutting things for a very long time with no sign of tomorrow coming, is it really that much of a stretch to think that people might just be getting a bit sick of it?

It does seem like the disabled are getting a good kicking though no two ways about it.

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I'm currently eating that jam and so are an awful lot of people i know .

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Like wise. I'm having to turn work down or schedule it into the summer. Nobody complains when being given extra money financed by state borrowing but they really squeal when that borrowing has to be paid for.