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Hi all and long time no see.
I'm hoping somebody on here can help and save me another call to CS. I actually can't fault virgin CS this time but I have a bit of an anxiety about calling people I don't know so would like to avoid the call If I can. Earlier today I received one of those self install packs with the SH2ac and rejoined virgin supposedly at 100mb. I'm only getting 6mb of that and even that took a phone call to an actual customer service person because the automated system failed to activate my router, as I said above I dislike calling people I don't know but to give the CS rep his due he seemed good to me. Now after the call I noticed the connection seemed sluggish compared to the BT fibre I have just switched from and I've had a few page not found errors so I have performed a speed test (or 10) and get a fairly consistent 6mb down 6mb up. lowest down speed was 3mb but this was an anomaly as far as I could tell. My ping has varied from 12ms to 80ms so not terrible but not great at its lowest, still not what I would expect from a suffering connection as I would expect to see a ping in the 100s. A quick google would seem to suggest my power levels are too high but I have to admit to knowing little to nothing about this side of things. I've attached screenshots of both my download and upload power levels. Can anybody with the correct smarts let me know whats too high and/or too low so if I do have to call CS I will at least have all the relevant info to hand? Also would old wiring be a likely cause of this? I expressed some concern to the original person who said I would get a self install kit that the cover of the inlet to the property had Nynex branding and I don't think we have had Nynex here since 2001. Thanks in advance. |
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Yes, your downstream power levels are too high. They should be somewhere in the range -6 to +10 dBmV. Though allow a bit for drift, so I'd want +9 max for a reliable connection.
You don't say whether you're testing your speeds via wired or wifi. Sounds like wifi? Connect a computer direct to your hub via ethernet and post links to your speed tests from http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html and http://www.speedtest.net/ |
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Sorry, yes I should have said that was both wired and wireless. I'm on GB wired, confirmed with a network transfer of about 80-100MB/s. And my wireless is connecting at 360mb according to network and sharing centre in windows.
I'm not able to connect to my virgin right now so I can't post a screenshot from speedtest because I'm heading out to work and I had to reconnect the BT hub for the Mrs while I'm out but my 6mb down 6mb up speed was from speedtest.net last night. Interestingly I ran the test again one last time before bed and I was able to get 10mb down for the first time but another test immediately after only gave 3mb down so its obviously unstable. |
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Holy those power levels are really high
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If you want to avoid calls to VM you could try fitting a FPA ( Forward Path Attenuator or equiliser) of 6 to 10 db. This would bring the DS power nicely inside the limit. The US power is fine.
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as above, you want your downstream as close to 0 as possible and I would start sweating if mine was went over +6. You can either ring tech support and have the stress of explaining it to the ming mongs in India. You need an tech to come out and move your tap point in the street cabinet which will adjust your power levels. Orrrrrr, you can buy one of these which will be perfect.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I've just reconnected to the router over wireless and without any intervention I'm now getting over 100mb which is great.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/02/2.png The only thing of note is that I got a text from virgin today while I was at work telling me they have sent the signal to activate my BB (The one I requested last night) so I don't know if there was just some sort of hiccup with the provisioning system or the SMS notification system, it may even be unrelated. I've now reconnected my whole network and on my wired machine I am getting this.... https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/02/3.png So it all looks good. My only worry is my power levels still seem the same to me (Screenshot attached). Now I know the old adage of "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" probably applies here but I'm just wondering if I may experience problems with levels like this (perhapps at peak times?) and should I maybe still buy the FPA? |
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I am the champion of "if it ain't broken don't fix it" but that being said your power levels are right on the edge and as the weather changes they will only get worse. You can even see it now with those post-rs errors. I would still order the fpa or ring tech support and get a tech out to sort it out.
Love the avatar btw, I forgot to say it earlier. |
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And thanks for the compliment on the avatar. Kosh is one of my all time favourite SciFi characters. I've used the same avatar on here for over 13 years and several years before that on the old nthellworld.com but I have been largely inactive over the last 4 years. |
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B5 rules. I have watched over 100 complete tv series in my life (with a huge amount of variety between them) and B5 is still No. 1. Entil'zha venis.
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dude you are like my long lost twin. BSG is my second favourite series ever and I make a point of watching both once a year.
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I am surprised Kosh (Kush) hasn't joined in yet, that would make us triplets.
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You guys have good taste! B5, BSG (and SG1) are my all time favourite shows.
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Hence the further outside the -6 to +10 range you are the more unreliable your connection is. Which explains the speed dropping to very low then suddenly normal figures. Peak times are not so relevant in that context, except for any variances in SNR. You could just as easily have low speeds and/or disconnections at 4am with those power levels, but most of the time it should be ok. Having your levels close to zero won't improve things further if you already have good enough SNR to support anywhere in the acceptable power range, which you do. There's no problem with your post-rs errors, as they were from boot time. ---------- Post added at 06:45 ---------- Previous post was at 06:36 ---------- Quote:
Carry on Kosh... (Sci-fi version of the carry-on comedy movies) |
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Carry on Kosh is a carry on movie I think I would actually enjoy :D |
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We need more good Sci-fi on TV! As much as I enjoy the comic book craze going on at the moment, it's not the same.
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There's plenty of sci-fi on at the moment and more new series coming. New sci-fi series (not Marvel/comic book) worth watching and current episodes: The Expanse S01e10 Colony S01E07 Minority Report S01e10 The Man in the High Castle S01e10 Older (definitely worth a re-watch): Ascension (2014) - mini series in 3 parts Wayward Pines (2015) - mini series Continuum (2012-2015) - 4 seasons Dollhouse (2009-2010) - has to be watched for the final post-apocalypse episode Fringe (on Netflix) Other new stuff: The Shannara Chronicles (fantasy/sci-fi mix) The Magicians S01e06 The above two, although not sci-fi are well worth a watch. -- SPOILER --The Shannara Chronicles starts with pure fantasy but later you find out it's a post-apocalyptic world far in the future where technology has become magic.--SPOILER-- Don't bother: 11.22.63 (bad time travel series) |
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I love all Star Trek and Stargate. I am watching Colony and The Expanse every week, got Minority Report downloaded but haven't watched it yet. Ascension was excellent and I wish it hadn't been cancelled (along with Dollhouse). Continuum had a good run and it was nice to see Kira finally made it back. Also watching and enjoying The Shannara Chronicles atm but I gave up on The Magicians on ep, the acting was sooo bad. I have got 11.22.63 but haven't watched it.
A few worthy current contenders you haven't mentioned: The 100, The Strain, Vampire Diaries. I haven left out your comic book stuff like Agents of Shield although I really do enjoy it. In terms of older stuff you might want to consider if you have time: Defiance Eureka Falling Skies Revolution Star-Crossed Alias Dark Angel Andromeda Jericho Odyssey 5 Taken The 4400 Threshold V Lost Heroes and I really want to save Smallville till last. If I could marry any one in the world right this very instant it would be Kristen Kreuk :luv: |
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Just re-watched TOS Assignment Earth recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOnX3Tkf6E Quote:
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I could add another 50 sci-fi series probably to your list from the 60's until today. ---------- Post added at 00:43 ---------- Previous post was at 00:03 ---------- More great series.. Dark Matter (2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TqwBlTQfTg Kill Joys (2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST9OkLjTu9Q Almost Human (2013): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2ojHR40TQ Sense8 (2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9c_KSZ6zMk You also forgot classics like.. Farscape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWG5e0u6SPQ Lexx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWNTtlSbyVg Coming soon Hunters (April 2016): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-ReGtWNs1I West World (2016): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg64ULxYZQA ---------- Post added at 01:43 ---------- Previous post was at 00:43 ---------- Just started watching this. Looks great. The Wizards of Aus (2016) trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClYDL7jgj0 Web series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv3D...mmCygg&index=1 ---------- Post added at 02:34 ---------- Previous post was at 01:43 ---------- Time-trap (short film): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpmk...g#t=450.965553 Envoy (short film): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3-21AMbFFk ---------- Post added at 02:47 ---------- Previous post was at 02:34 ---------- Quote:
Either an FPA or tech visit, which will get you a free FPA anyway, unless they move you to another tap in the cabinet. |
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I watched Dark Matter but didn't mention it because it is what I call "take it or leave it" tv and isn't particularly fantastic. I couldn't get in to Almost Human or Sense8. I did watch Lexx but didn't mention it for the same reason and Farscape did my head in (don't get my started on Firefly). I am really looking forward to Westworld this year.
You seriously need to watch Jericho. Let me know when you get to the end of season 1 and I'll tell you all about the nuts campaign, it was a historic event. |
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I'm so glad General mentioned Andromeda in his list and Lexx,-well series 1 with Eva Heberman......
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Into The Badlands. OK It's on Netflix so not strictly TV but it's a series that has potential and my attention. BTW Gen, I will get you that thing you want (B5) as soon as possible. I haven't forgotten. |
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I didn't like the new series of V, I gave up on that eventually.
Almost Human was entertaining! It's a shame it was cancelled. Though the (ex) wife and I used to joke that it should have been called "CSI: Future". I should point out, I love the comic book stuff as well, it's just there's so much of it at the moment I'm starting to get a little comic booked out. |
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my bad for posting the wrong link. You want the 10db attenuator out of these.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Technetix-...gAAOSwL7VWiWVU ---------- Post added at 20:42 ---------- Previous post was at 20:36 ---------- I have just had a good google and I can't believe that you cannot buy them anywhere. |
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The power levels won't fix it. It's something else. 10db doesn't cause an issue even though its out of specification. If you call virgin they will send a techncian to put one on but I'd set your expectations really low
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Also oddly I'm getting close to 90mb now. If this was an area utilisation issue shouldn't I be getting the lower speed I have been experiencing in the evening 6mb (ish) with it being the weekend?
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no, if it is a utilisation issue there are simply too many people subscribed in your area for the capacity which is available. My speed has always been 100% and I never have any issues. Say for example there is 10gbits of bandwidth for 5000 people in my area, you might have 10bits for 20000 people. If you are over subscribed it doesn't mean it is going to be slow all the time because for that to happen everyone would have to be using it all the time.
During the week day when everyone is at school and work then utilisation is going to be low so the chances are that you are going to get full speed. In the evenings when everyone is home and playing games, youtubing and netfllixing then the utilisation is going to be high and speed is going to be an issue. You may think that slow speed is a symptom of a fault the sad truth is that it will be all over the place because it is entirely dependant on who is doing what at any given time of the day on any day of the week. (I would still get a tech out to sort your power levels out). |
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the bottleneck/capacity issue will be further up the network chain so you will both be affected. His power levels are spot on though and that is what you should be aiming for. As an fyi, it sounds like he is hitting max speed and is probably provisioned for 60/3 (vs your 100/6)
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it is easy to find out. Go to http://192.168.0.1 and
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/02/1.jpg https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/02/2.jpg https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/02/3.jpg That is the config for 152/12. You can see what yours is for 100/6 and if your friend has the same you know he is on the same tier, if it is less then you know he is 60/3. |
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When one node/cable maxes out sometimes it starts affecting node/cables nearby. Or you could both be on the same node and affected by the same fault. Or you could both have separate and independent faults. |
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I've just spoken to CS and spoke to a friendly Scottish lass (I think, I'm not good at identifying accents lol) She was very helpful and identified the power level issue quickly and I now have a tech booked in for Thursday afternoon so fingers crossed it will at least improve my situation. I can live without a perfect connection although that would be nice but 6mb is way too low. I could get adsl faster than that and for a fraction of the price. I used to have perfect 150mb in my old house about half a mile away so I know the dream is possible lol :D . |
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If you haven't seen it yet, Powers (2015) was an excellent sci-fi show last year..
It's been renewed for a 2nd and 3rd season. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1yNhPGrOFY Looking forward to season 2 this year. |
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I was aware of it in advance of it airing but was too busy to watch it at the time. When I got round to it I could only get up to 1x06 so I didn't watch it because I knew it would annoy me if it was good and I couldn't finish it off. Reading your post has made me have another look and I can now get the whole of season 1 so I will defo be giving it a go. I love stuff like this, Heroes and X-men etc. It always makes you think about what type of power you would want to have and whether you would use it responsibly or for your own good and possibly lead you to the dark side without realising.
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Now that would be something. Imagine having a power like the little kid at theginning of xmen 2 where you can hack into digital communications(tv/internet), be aware of everything going on and watch/monitor everything simultaneously. I defo wouldnt have to worry about not having enough time for my tv series.
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you wish
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Terry is rather famous and started as a child: https://frankfurt-festival.com/terry-tauliaut |
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It looks like it is my turn. Internet has been sluggish all day. I just ran a speed test and I am getting 2mbits down. The upload test wouldn't even start and timed out with a connection error. I have just had a look at the shub stats and my upstream channels have dropped to qam32 and have got a tonne of T3 timeouts. Lets see how long it lasts!
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And that's from a person who's on a low demand area and never had a problem.
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that is why I thought I would mention it, it is beyond rare. I don't know what the problem was but it is all good now. I have been hosting a l4d server for friends all evening and it has run nice and smooth and I have just done a speed test and everything is back to full speed again.
Edit: It looks like my router did a reboot at tea time and my upstreams are back on qam64 and I haven't got anymore t3 timeouts. Disappointingly though it looks like I am not getting email notifications from the forum to my gmail account. Can you send me a pm to confirm. |
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Maybe the propaganda gurus at VM have hacked the internet and are trying to prevent the spread of lies and negative comments which emanate from this site.
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P.S. Perhaps we should have a game of L4D some time. Feel free to add me on Steam as Kushan :) |
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I did a reboot myself before making my original post and it didnt solve anything. My connection is down completely now but luckily i am spared the pain of ringing India. I have checked the service status page o my phone and there is a known issue with a fault reference. It says it will be fixed by 14:00 which is fine because i am about to go out for lunch and watch London Had Fallen again. I'll add you on steam later and we can defo arrange a game. I dont know whether you have heard but Valve are making l4d3.
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it is defo going to be l4d3, they have put Half Life 3 on hold atm.
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Portal 3? Dota 3?
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Na, we are full steam ahead with the zombie apocalypse. I have added you on Steam btw, I just hope I got the right you.
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good point mud but it is my fault for causing the confusion. I have just read it back and even confused myself. I have always referred to the shub as the shub and my Linksys router as "my router". I should have said I rebooted the shub because it is in modem mode. I have never had to reboot "my router". :doh:
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Hmm, I stopped getting notifications about replies to this thread 2 weeks ago so I'm sorry I haven't been by.
Still no improvement with my situation as far as my line speed goes. The tech came to the house, fitted a -10db FPA. That got the power levels perfect but given the issue I was having he figured it was best to make a call while he was here and confirmed with someone that we have a utilisation issue on the cab that had already been flagged. Estimated resolution date is 30/6 so I rang up to see what they could offer me for the next three months. Best I could get was £10 discount which included a downgrade to 50mb. I said that was no good to me because I need the upload speed of the 100mb which I was still getting even when my download speed dipped below 2mb. I only have internet so though £10 off might be proportional if you have other services with VM and these other services are working fine. I don't feel that less than a third off my bill for less than 1/50 of my connection at the most important time of day was good enough but they couldn't/wouldn't budge on the £10 discount. I decided to take advantage of the fact that I was a brand new customer and I decided I was going to leave VM. The CS person I was speaking to put me through to retentions and I expected to be offered a little bit more of a discount to stay but I got nothing and ended up terminating the contract. Now I know from past experience how cancellations work with VM so I fully expected somebody to call me back later in the week. Sure enough two days later I got a phone call and have been offered £10 per month discount for 12 months on my 100mb so no need to step down to 50mb. Thats effectively 4x the discount I was originally offered but averaged out over the year or 3 months free depending how you look at it. As long as the connection is sorted on the 30/6 as promised I think that's a pretty good deal so I took it. Everybody I have spoken to within VM has been polite, sympathetic, helpful and most importantly for me easy to understand. I'm not the sort of person who goes on a rant about offshore call centres but with the anxiety I have making these phone calls in the first place I'm always filled with dread when I get a crackly line to somebody with a thick foreign accent. So even though I've had a shaky start with VM this time around I'm quite happy with how it turned out. And thanks again to everybody on here who offered advice, help and new Sci-Fi suggestions :D . |
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I would leave. Dates are always pushed back
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Having said that, my congestion issue was not going to be fixed until May but ended up getting fixed in mid-february. This was an exception, though.
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Thanks guys I'm depressed now hehe. I'm going to give them a chance. If my connection isn't better by 1/7 they will be getting a call. Will be an interesting call that one because In my opinion I should still have the right to cancel because they aren't delivering on what was promised but I'm betting they wont see it that way.
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well bear that in mind because you'll be the only one to blame when you start moaning that you are still getting pants speed and they won't do anything about it. The whole reason why they fob you off and give you bs over the phone is to take you out of the grace period and into your contract period and then there is no getting out of it.
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Well guess what? 6 weeks after it was supposed to be sorted these are my speed test results tonight....
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/5548824145 Tonight is no exception either. It may have actually gotten a little worse since I last posted here. Think I'm going to try and cancel again, should be fun as I'm not in my cooling off period anymore (I should have Listened General Maximus). I'm going to go down the breach of contract route as they have promised several things to me (Speed, resolution deadlines etc). If I could just get 20mb down in the evening I could probably ignore it but 2mb is unbearable. EDIT because link wont show as image for some reason? |
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There is a reason why i took the time to say what i did all those months ago. I am going to bookmark this thread and make reference to it the next time somebody thinks about ignoring my words of wisdom ;)
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