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Taf 04-02-2016 14:53

If you are having speed problems
 
A VM Tech installed SG TCP Optimiser onto my PC.

http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

Under general settings set the slider to 100+mbps and set "optimal settings".

My 100mbps connection was solid until the free upgrade to 150mbps. It then dropped to 85mbps.

This program has solved my speed problem altogether! :D

MUD_Wizard 04-02-2016 15:25

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35820441)
A VM Tech installed SG TCP Optimiser onto my PC.

A well known tool from the old days of Windows 95.

Increases the TCP Receive Window size for O/S that don't have auto-scaling.
I used it on my old Windows 95 laptop when I was testing 152Mb.

Windows 7/8 shouldn't need it (as it has auto-tuning), unless you're in a high utilisation area (to squeeze a bit more out of the network).

Which O/S do you have and what's your computer spec?

pip08456 04-02-2016 15:29

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MUD_Wizard (Post 35820451)
A well known tool from the old days of Windows 95.

Increases the TCP Receive Window size for O/S that don't have auto-scaling.
I used it on my old Windows 95 laptop when I was testing 152Mb.

Windows 7/8 shouldn't need it (as it has auto-tuning), unless you're in a high utilisation area (to squeeze a bit more out of the network).

Which O/S do you have and what's your computer spec?

Beat me to it.:D

Taf 04-02-2016 15:39

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
I ran another brand of auto optimiser only a few months ago. Maybe it needed that extra poke to get moving again?

Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit SP2

Intel core2 quad CPU Q6600 @2.4Ghz, 3 Gb RAM, Intel G33/G31 Express Chipset family

MUD_Wizard 04-02-2016 15:50

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35820456)
I ran another brand of auto optimiser only a few months ago. Maybe it needed that extra poke to get moving again?

Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit SP2

Intel core2 quad CPU Q6600 @2.4Ghz, 3 Gb RAM, Intel G33/G31 Express Chipset family

Vista should work to all intents and purposes the same as Windows 7 in this case.

Your CPU is more than capable of 300Mb+ (I'm running 300Mb on a slightly lower spec processer than you).

Note: 3GB is WAAY too low for Vista/7 and will be thrashing the hard disk all the time, slowing your computer down. Get some more RAM! I have 6 GB and recommend 8 GB. Check Windows Resource Monitor while running a speed test to see if the Disk activity is maxing out.

Anyway, either you screwed something up with the last optimiser that TCP optimiser had to fix, or your area is over-utilised like I've been saying all along.

Taf 04-02-2016 16:07

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
3GB max RAM for this motherboard. :(

Virtual memory has always been turned off to STOP any disk thrashing.

I often run 2 browsers, DVD authoring software, file conversion programs and a graphics program at the same time at high speed.

The only programs I had speed problems with were Chrome (memory hog) and sometimes Firefox (something to do with a plugin, possibly Flash).

pip08456 04-02-2016 16:15

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MUD_Wizard (Post 35820461)
Vista should work to all intents and purposes the same as Windows 7 in this case.

Your CPU is more than capable of 300Mb+ (I'm running 300Mb on a slightly lower spec processer than you).

Note: 3GB is WAAY too low for Vista/7 and will be thrashing the hard disk all the time, slowing your computer down. Get some more RAM! I have 6 GB and recommend 8 GB. Check Windows Resource Monitor while running a speed test to see if the Disk activity is maxing out.

Anyway, either you screwed something up with the last optimiser that TCP optimiser had to fix, or your area is over-utilised like I've been saying all along.

A 32 bit windows OS will not recognise nor use any memory above 3GB.

MUD_Wizard 04-02-2016 16:25

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35820466)
3GB max RAM for this motherboard. :(

Yeah I missed you're running 32bit O/S (your CPU is 64bit), so only need half of what I recommended (I'm running 64-bit on 7). Also the recommended for Vista Premium is a lot lower at 1GB. So 3GB should be fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35820466)
Virtual memory has always been turned off to STOP any disk thrashing.

Hmm.. dubious. http://lifehacker.com/5426041/unders...dnt-disable-it

I turned off indexing, backups and Superfetch on Windows 7 (Superfetch was fine for a while and then went crazy).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35820466)
I often run 2 browsers, DVD authoring software, file conversion programs and a graphics program at the same time at high speed.

The only programs I had speed problems with were Chrome (memory hog) and sometimes Firefox (something to do with a plugin, possibly Flash).

Yeah, Flash is a constant memory leak, so glad that Youtube and others have moved to HTML5 video. HTML5 takes more CPU though.
Javascript is still a constant memory leak, due to architecture. Not much you can do there except avoid badly scripted sites.

At the end of the day it's whatever works for you.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35820469)
A 32 bit windows OS will not recognise nor use any memory above 3GB.

You can tell I haven't thought about 32bit for years now. :D

pip08456 04-02-2016 16:30

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
It's only because my old overused and trustworthy laptop is on a 32 bit system.

Gavin78 04-02-2016 20:02

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
I tried what the op said, didn't make a difference I know it's like 9pm nearly when I did the test but I'm not in a congested area....even on wifi finder it doesn't find any VM user near me and VM staff on the forums have said my area isn't congested this is tested wired and I also get the same results wifi

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I might have to try my old router and put it into modem mode and see if it makes a difference

Kushan 08-02-2016 11:50

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35820466)
3GB max RAM for this motherboard. :(

Virtual memory has always been turned off to STOP any disk thrashing.

I often run 2 browsers, DVD authoring software, file conversion programs and a graphics program at the same time at high speed.

The only programs I had speed problems with were Chrome (memory hog) and sometimes Firefox (something to do with a plugin, possibly Flash).

I would give serious consideration to wiping and installing a 64bit OS. Also buying yourself some more RAM.

Taf 08-02-2016 12:41

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35821059)
I would give serious consideration to wiping and installing a 64bit OS. Also buying yourself some more RAM.

3GB max RAM for this motherboard. :(

I have restricted finances that are about to get much worse due to pensions starting (daft but sadly very true) so a new PC is a distant dream. :(

Kushan 08-02-2016 20:06

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35821067)
3GB max RAM for this motherboard. :(

I have restricted finances that are about to get much worse due to pensions starting (daft but sadly very true) so a new PC is a distant dream. :(

Is it definitely a motherboard limitation? I've never seen a motherboard with such an arbitrary limitation, especially one from the Vista Era.

pip08456 08-02-2016 20:13

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35821115)
Is it definitely a motherboard limitation? I've never seen a motherboard with such an arbitrary limitation, especially one from the Vista Era.

More especially one that takes a x64 cpu.

Taf 09-02-2016 07:53

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
It says so in the handbook. :dunce:

Kushan 09-02-2016 08:17

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
How very odd! What Motherboard is it?

pip08456 09-02-2016 10:21

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Have you checked to see if there is a BIOS upgrade to fix the issue? I've never heard of a MoBo that takes a x64 cpu being limited to only 3Gb memory.

Synthetic 10-02-2016 15:28

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
3GB is a very odd limit too, usually goes in 2's (2GB, 4GB, 8GB etc)

EDIT: if you use the scanner at the below link it'll confirm how much RAM your mobo can support

http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/systemscanner

Taf 10-02-2016 15:38

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Hmm.. the scanner fails to run

"CrucialUKScan.exe The application failed to initialise properly"

:(

General Maximus 10-02-2016 15:41

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
you are doomed

Synthetic 10-02-2016 15:44

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35821407)
Hmm.. the scanner fails to run

"CrucialUKScan.exe The application failed to initialise properly"

:(

Strange. Just ran it myself from that link, something definitely up with your system :(

pip08456 10-02-2016 16:18

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic (Post 35821406)
3GB is a very odd limit too, usually goes in 2's (2GB, 4GB, 8GB etc)

EDIT: if you use the scanner at the below link it'll confirm how much RAM your mobo can support

http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/systemscanner

That scan told me the max was 2GB, I have 3 (Intel cpu) but can actually use 4 if I wish.

That said mine is an old laptop. Main desktop has 16GB but can take 32.

alanbjames 10-02-2016 20:22

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Scanner told me a max of 8GB on my board yet im running 16GB and i know its a max of 32GB.

General Maximus 10-02-2016 20:51

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
works ok for me, correctly identified motherboard and said 16/32.

Synthetic 11-02-2016 07:05

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Weird, it's always been spot on for me!

heero_yuy 11-02-2016 07:44

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Correctly identifies my old war horse can only have 2gb RAM (Installed) I do have an SSD for the main apps and OS so it still runs fairly well on XP.

Like Taf I don't spend money where it's not really needed. I did sport out on a 27" 1080 compatable monitor though last year as my eyes don't get any better and CAD work does strain them.

JordanTheToaster 11-02-2016 14:05

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
That program is either on drugs or it's terrible i'm guessing both since it said i have a max of 4 despite me having 32

Kushan 11-02-2016 18:15

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
I wouldn't trust any tool to tell you what your maximum is, there's no way for the tool to reliably know this. You need to identify your motherboard model with something like speccy, then do some googling to find the true limit.

Don't necessarily assume that the manual for the motherboard is correct, often this is down to higher-capacity modules not being available when the motherboard was released, so they can't claim it supports higher capacities because it was never tested. You get the same thing on phones with expandable storage, they'll usually say "Supports Micro SDHC up to 64GB or something, but when 128GB or 256GB cards come along, they work just fine.

General Maximus 11-02-2016 18:38

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35821570)
they'll usually say "Supports Micro SDHC up to 64GB or something, but when 128GB or 256GB cards come along, they work just fine.

interesting point, I have never thought about that before or tried it. Has anyone else?

pip08456 12-02-2016 19:48

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35821570)
I wouldn't trust any tool to tell you what your maximum is, there's no way for the tool to reliably know this. You need to identify your motherboard model with something like speccy, then do some googling to find the true limit.

Don't necessarily assume that the manual for the motherboard is correct, often this is down to higher-capacity modules not being available when the motherboard was released, so they can't claim it supports higher capacities because it was never tested. You get the same thing on phones with expandable storage, they'll usually say "Supports Micro SDHC up to 64GB or something, but when 128GB or 256GB cards come along, they work just fine.

Also when higher capacity come along there's usually a BIOS update to cover them which doesn't happen automatically.

Gavin78 14-02-2016 00:29

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
this might be a hub 3 problem or windows 10, possibly the software taff suggested but I can't use my ethernet cable as it knocks off the internet every couple of mins.

I installed the software and set it as suggested. having not used ethernet before installing the software. However I get limited connection pop up after a few mins then back on again after a few mins and it follows that cycle. I told the software to go back to windows default but still get the same problem.

Wifi is fine so not sure what the problem is.

arcimedes 14-02-2016 07:01

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Have you tried a different ethernet cable and or a different port on the shub?

MUD_Wizard 14-02-2016 22:28

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35821939)
this might be a hub 3 problem or windows 10, possibly the software taff suggested but I can't use my ethernet cable as it knocks off the internet every couple of mins.

Neither the hub 3 or the SG TCP Optimizer. There's no plausible reason for either to cause this kind of problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35821939)
I installed the software and set it as suggested. having not used ethernet before installing the software. However I get limited connection pop up after a few mins then back on again after a few mins and it follows that cycle. I told the software to go back to windows default but still get the same problem.

Wifi is fine so not sure what the problem is.

Since you haven't used ethernet before, then you have no baseline to compare with.

I would connect the ethernet then reboot the hub. Wait several minutes before trying to access the hub. Ping the hub continuously on 192.168.0.1 and proceed from there.

tweetiepooh 15-02-2016 10:16

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
64bit Linux is free :) And plenty of software is also free and can be better than paid Windows code. (I do realise it's not for everyone and not all code is really stable or user friendly enough)

Chrysalis 20-02-2016 22:08

Re: If you are having speed problems
 
be aware that tool is largely useless for a modern windows OS.

Windows 7+ you cannot finetune the TCP window (receive side), you cannot adjust sack's, you cannot adjust large window support etc.
Also in windows 8+ unless you on the enterprise version you cannot toggle delayed ack's now.

So I suspect the improvement is largely by luck.


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