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JPAC 19-01-2016 19:53

TV cost saving news item
 
Quote; "16:36, 19 JAN 2016 BY JAMES ANDREWS
The price of Sky TV has almost doubled since 2008, while Virgin TV costs are up by more than half. But there's less reason to have one than ever before

In December 2008 a basic Sky TV package would set you back £17 a month, while a basic Virgin TV package cost £11 a month.

Now to get the same channels costs you £30 and £18 respectively. That's £156 more a year for Sky and £84 more a year for Virgin. But in the same time wages have risen just 14%, research from Freesat has found.

“The price of TV packages has increased drastically in the last decade and is becoming unaffordable for many families," said Freesat spokesperson Jennifer Elworthy."


http://bit.ly/1Ryi68S

After all these years I still don't understand this dongle thing. OK, buy the dongle but you still have to have an internet connection right? Where's the cost saving?

Chris 19-01-2016 20:16

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There is an obvious cost saving in not paying for subscription TV services. What do dongles and internets have to do with it?

JPAC 19-01-2016 20:25

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Did you follow the link? Just the content

Did you know with a simple £30 dongle or plug in smart box you can beam content from your laptop to your TV - or even connect straight to the internet - meaning you can get iPlayer, YouTube and more from your phone, laptop or tablet straight to your TV.

How does the TV data get to the laptop to be sent to your TV?

Stephen 19-01-2016 20:35

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So you are only paying for the internet then and NOT the TV. So that is where you are saving money.

Simple really

Chris 19-01-2016 20:37

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Via an Internet connection - which has precisely nothing to do with the prices Sky and Virgin charge for their TV packs.

Presumably you have an Internet connection and would continue to have one whether or not you subscribe to a TV content provider, Internet being a basic utility much like your phone or electricity.

MrB 22-01-2016 00:54

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The article is advertising Freesat and Freeview. The reference to dongles refers to Google Chrome so that you can access catch up services and YouTube etc - there is no detail about streaming other content that is available on the internet.

As noted above, you still need an internet connection if you wanted to use Chrome etc but not for Freeview and Freesat.

We could all save even more money if we did not want any of the premium subscription channels - it is true that prices have risen substantially over recent years though.

Chris 22-01-2016 10:05

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If you buy one of the latest generation of set top boxes for Freesat or Freeview (or a "smart" TV), most, or all, of the on-demand and catch-up services are built in. And most of those (iplayer, ITV player, etc) are free to use.

There are of course services that operate by subscription, like Amazon Prime and Netflix, but you can take them or leave them. Even if you take them, it seems to me that they are somewhat cheaper than buying bundles of channels you never watch from Sky, just so you can see one hour of Game of Thrones per week.

I added up once, the true cost of my Sky sub, per programme watched. It was shocking. I cancelled it soon afterwards because it would have been cheaper to buy box sets of everything I wanted than to continue subscribing to Sky.

Then I found if there was less TV in the house, I watched it less, and didn't even bother with any box sets. Result ... More dosh to spend elsewhere.

The cost savings are there for the taking.

Kushan 22-01-2016 14:05

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I literally only have the TV because it's part of the mates rates package. Had a second box for a while, wasn't even plugged in.

I don't remember the last time I went "channel surfing", if I want to watch something, I'll stream it from netflix or some other streaming service.

adduxi 22-01-2016 14:52

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Yes, I also am becoming disillusioned with TV.
I've often come home and thought "hundreds of channels and nothing to watch"
Once the kids leave home, I am seriously thinking of going to Freeview and starting to read books again :)

Taf 22-01-2016 21:08

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I bought our lad an HD receiver from Tesco.

http://www.tesco.com/direct/manhatta...skuId=320-7521

He loves it, and no fees to pay. Just attach to an aerial and BB and away you go.

Sephiroth 24-01-2016 22:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adduxi (Post 35818507)
Yes, I also am becoming disillusioned with TV.
I've often come home and thought "hundreds of channels and nothing to watch"
Once the kids leave home, I am seriously thinking of going to Freeview and starting to read books again :)

Agreed up to a point. I'll be ditching Sky Movies soon; and I'll be ditching my BT Infinity & phone line. I've got a VM line, will move to IP telephony when that's up and running and 4G will become my backup.

I'd want to keep the TV XL pack though. Good stuff on the science channels.

But Adduxi implies a wider point. I suspect that many customers will reach a similar conclusion due to the competition brought about by the excellent streaming services. This will affect VM's business model, I'm sure.

RichardCoulter 13-02-2016 02:46

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35818119)
Via an Internet connection - which has precisely nothing to do with the prices Sky and Virgin charge for their TV packs.

It could do, because of the way that the bundle prices work.

Having broadband may make the price of TV cheaper; which reduces any savings made because of any discount.

I've read on here that in some cases it's cheaper to take a VM landline than not having one- even if it never gets plugged in!

techguyone 13-02-2016 12:54

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I just pay VM 50p/mth for the freeview channels (obviously I pay for the internet/phone too)

Mr K 13-02-2016 16:27

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35821817)
I just pay VM 50p/mth for the freeview channels (obviously I pay for the internet/phone too)

You aren't getting all the Freeview channels though are you? Spike, Talking Pictures, Moviemix, Movies4men etc. You'd be better saving your 50p.

techguyone 13-02-2016 17:45

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Anything I don't get I can just kodi or similar...

I don't mind paying 50p/mth for the ability to record stuff or when kodi goes down etc.

admars 13-02-2016 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35821783)
It could do, because of the way that the bundle prices work.

Having broadband may make the price of TV cheaper; which reduces any savings made because of any discount.

I've read on here that in some cases it's cheaper to take a VM landline than not having one- even if it never gets plugged in!

I phoned up Virgin a while ago, to cancel TV, as I thought I'd be happy with freeview and internet, however I was told I'd lose the discount I get by having, tv, phone, and internet, so it was cheaper to go to the most basic tv package than not have tv at all.

yorkshireborn 14-02-2016 10:20

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we have the full package but the phones been unplugged for the last 6 years never had the need to use it.

and the good thing from not using it is no unwanted / nuisance phone calls.

RichardCoulter 22-04-2016 18:44

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Originally Posted by admars (Post 35821916)
I phoned up Virgin a while ago, to cancel TV, as I thought I'd be happy with freeview and internet, however I was told I'd lose the discount I get by having, tv, phone, and internet, so it was cheaper to go to the most basic tv package than not have tv at all.

Is this still the case with TiVo though, now that M TV customers have to pay £5 a month for the TiVo facility?

Taf 22-04-2016 21:20

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35833755)
Is this still the case with TiVo though, now that M TV customers have to pay £5 a month for the TiVo facility?

The bill doesn't break it down , but it's there as an item to pay for.

23prince 22-04-2016 23:33

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firetv stick and typlayer free channels or £4,99 a month for all the premium ones

Job done for me

RichardCoulter 23-04-2016 17:36

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Do you know of anywhere that lists the channels available on a Fire TV stick?

I can find plenty of reviews for it, but not what channels are actually available!

Kushan 23-04-2016 17:40

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The "channels" available are whatever apps provide. So you've got your iplayers and 4od's and that, whatever NowTV gives you, whatever netflix gives you, etc.

Ignitionnet 23-04-2016 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35833906)
Do you know of anywhere that lists the channels available on a Fire TV stick?

I can find plenty of reviews for it, but not what channels are actually available!

You can root the stick and install all kinds of dodgy streaming apps on it, so the sky's the limit.

techguyone 23-04-2016 19:47

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Fire Sticks are pretty rubbish, you're handicapped significantly by Amazon and the hardware specs pretty basic too, better to get an Android box and get those dodgy apps loaded ;)

alanbjames 23-04-2016 19:58

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i got rid of TV saving me £11 a month and went to Freesat.

I only watch BBC and ITV and most of that is on Catchup TV players.

Kushan 24-04-2016 16:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35833937)
Fire Sticks are pretty rubbish, you're handicapped significantly by Amazon and the hardware specs pretty basic too, better to get an Android box and get those dodgy apps loaded ;)

Balderdash, you're not restricted by Amazon at all, you can install any apps you want from outside Amazon's own store. That's all those other Android boxes do and Amazon's fork of Android is no different.

techguyone 24-04-2016 16:37

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LOl you're having a laugh, Amazon are making it very hard to sideload apps that aren't their own, as it's not in Amazons interests, plus the things only got 0.5 GB usable RAM for a few quid more you can get a proper non affiliated to anyone android box and load what you want. They also removed Kodi from their app store, wonder why that was... oh wait, it's not Amazons.

RichardCoulter 24-04-2016 16:51

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Still think that it would be useful to be able to access each others TiVos- I could watch a film that I forgot to record, whilst they could access mine for an episode of a drama that they missed where no alternative showing is scheduled.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-customer.html

Is this how Plex works?

Kushan 24-04-2016 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35834077)
LOl you're having a laugh, Amazon are making it very hard to sideload apps that aren't their own, as it's not in Amazons interests, plus the things only got 0.5 GB usable RAM for a few quid more you can get a proper non affiliated to anyone android box and load what you want. They also removed Kodi from their app store, wonder why that was... oh wait, it's not Amazons.

Go to Settings > System > Developer Options > Enable “Apps from Unknown Sources”

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/04/3.jpg

A tickbox is all that stops you from sideloading whatever the hell you want. Very hard.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35834086)
Still think that it would be useful to be able to access each others TiVos- I could watch a film that I forgot to record, whilst they could access mine for an episode of a drama that they missed where no alternative showing is scheduled.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-customer.html

Is this how Plex works?

More or less. Plex is cool, you set it up on the machine that has all your media and then any other plex app can log in and view it. It'll transcode the media if it needs to and stream it over LAN or internet.

That said, it has its flaws as well. When inside my network, I prefer good ol' Kodi to watch the stuff on my server, but outside the network Plex is by far the easiest.


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