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HamsterHam 09-01-2016 16:19

Power Levels
 
Hi all

I just upgraded to the Superhub 2ac with 200mbps speed however my power levels seem odd.

With a 10 dB attenuator my downstream levels are -5 to -7 and without it they are +7.3.

Is that bad? It seems like my net isn't so consistent.

Cheers.

General Maximus 09-01-2016 17:24

Re: Power Levels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HamsterHam (Post 35816560)
Is that bad?

yes it is, you want them to be bang in middle (i.e. around 0). I wouldn't want mine at either -7 or +7. You can either ring VM and ask them to send a tech out with a new fpa for something like 3db or you could just save yourself the hassle and buy one yourself. This would be perfect.

HamsterHam 09-01-2016 17:35

Re: Power Levels
 
I rang them and the guy I spoke to said they're okay which I thought was odd. I might buy that! Cheers.

jb66 09-01-2016 18:15

Re: Power Levels
 
I'd be happy with 7db

HamsterHam 09-01-2016 20:53

Re: Power Levels
 
Now I am getting 4mbps! Loads of T3 Timeouts! So angry.

Upstream levels are 51.46. Is that high?

Engineer booked for Monday.

jb66 09-01-2016 21:15

Re: Power Levels
 
Upstream is too high

HamsterHam 09-01-2016 21:22

Re: Power Levels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35816615)
Upstream is too high

Okay, what should they be? I have an engineer booked for Monday so hopefully they will fix the issue.

What really is annoying as the speed was fine two days ago so how can this all of a sudden happen?

DJSADERS 10-01-2016 15:24

Re: Power Levels
 
in the mid 40's is ideal for upstream...

heero_yuy 10-01-2016 15:45

Re: Power Levels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HamsterHam (Post 35816616)
What really is annoying as the speed was fine two days ago so how can this all of a sudden happen?

If your upstream and/or downstream levels are marginal then only a small change in the local noise environment can cause this. Same reason that a small loss of signal or reduction in signal to noise will cause extreme pixelation in a DTV broadcast if the signal is on the limit.

General Maximus 10-01-2016 15:48

Re: Power Levels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DJSADERS (Post 35816684)
in the mid 40's is ideal for upstream...

ja, mine has always been 45

MUD_Wizard 10-01-2016 16:50

Re: Power Levels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HamsterHam (Post 35816560)
With a 10 dB attenuator my downstream levels are -5 to -7 and without it they are +7.3.


-7 dBmV is out of range. It can cause reliability problems.
+7 dBmV is in range. That would work fine.

I have my downstream levels around +7 to +9 dBmV during summer.

The acceptable range for downstream is generally -6 to +10 dBmV. Anywhere inside that is fine (doesn't need to be zero and won't benefit any more from being zero than being +7 dBmV), but if you allow for drifting levels then you don't want it right on the edge of the range.

You should expect your levels to change by about 3 dBmV between winter and summer.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by HamsterHam (Post 35816610)
Now I am getting 4mbps! Loads of T3 Timeouts! So angry.

Upstream levels are 51.46. Is that high?

Yes. You want it in the 40's, though high 30's is also fine. Higher downstream helps reduce the upstream. Though the modem keeps increasing the power until it gets a signal through, so depends on whether the issue is just the low downstream level or something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamsterHam (Post 35816610)
Engineer booked for Monday.

The "engineer" will probably just take the attenuator off.

DJSADERS 10-01-2016 18:13

Re: Power Levels
 
The engineer should go to the cab or fit an HDU to decrease the upstream... and then adjust the downstream accordingly...

Could even be a bad connector or splitter some where

jb66 10-01-2016 18:23

Re: Power Levels
 
IS the upstream 51 without the attenuator?

DJSADERS 10-01-2016 18:32

Re: Power Levels
 
One thing to remember with the attenuators... Wideband does up and down (white one)... Forward path only does down (purple one) ;)

HamsterHam 10-01-2016 20:39

Re: Power Levels
 
I've taken the attenuator off. Current levels are downstream 8.3 and upstream 41.

Getting better speeds but no where near 200. Max around 50.

jb66 10-01-2016 20:45

Re: Power Levels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HamsterHam (Post 35816732)
I've taken the attenuator off. Current levels are downstream 8.3 and upstream 41.

Getting better speeds but no where near 200. Max around 50.

Wired?

HamsterHam 10-01-2016 20:49

Re: Power Levels
 
Nah but using an Asus ac WiFi adapter which got me 200 few days back.

jb66 10-01-2016 20:53

Re: Power Levels
 
You really need to do a wired test using speedtest.net, you might be wasting your time looking for a fault with virgin

HamsterHam 10-01-2016 21:58

Re: Power Levels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35816736)
You really need to do a wired test using speedtest.net, you might be wasting your time looking for a fault with virgin

Okay so wired I am getting 160ish. WiFi around 60.

I was getting 200 via WiFi few days ago which is odd. I have a USB-AC56 Dual Band Wireless AC1300 Asus adapter as well so should be getting way over 100.

And now we are back to this for upstream:

Power Level (dBmV) 51.25 N/A N/A 55.00

jb66 11-01-2016 06:02

Re: Power Levels
 
If that's the upstream with the attenuator off then that's one of the problems.

HamsterHam 11-01-2016 23:34

Re: Power Levels
 
So the engineer came and changed the splitter and the cable. Power levels are now:

Downstream varies between 5 and 6
Upstream is 42-44.

I also changed the frequency settings as the guy on the phone two nights ago changed them to awful settings. I set 2.4GHz to 300Mbps and 5GHz to 1.3Gbps and I seem to be back to getting over 150Mbps on WiFi.

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Speed test at 00:34 on WiFi.

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