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alanbjames 15-12-2015 02:40

Network Drive
 
After Christmas in the sales i wanna create a network drive that all 3 of us can access and save to at home at once.

What would be the best way of doing this?
Would getting a Wireless NAS drive do the job?

Also would more than one user be able to access the same file on the drive at the same time?

Thanks.

jb66 15-12-2015 07:38

Re: Network Drive
 
I just connected a NAS via ethernet to my hub and my TV mobile phones etc can all access it,

alanbjames 15-12-2015 12:24

Re: Network Drive
 
Thats exactly what im looking for.

The reason im not thinking cloud access is because i dont want the time od having to download and then reupload the files if edited.

alanbjames 16-12-2015 18:21

Re: Network Drive
 
Can anyone suggest a network drive that works the way i want and is easy to setup?

Hom3r 16-12-2015 18:28

Re: Network Drive
 
I have the WD My Book 2TB, it connects to my router, and can be accessed both internally & externally.

ianch99 16-12-2015 19:03

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35813125)
Can anyone suggest a network drive that works the way i want and is easy to setup?

You should be able to connect a USB drive to your ASUS router and share this on the LAN via the built-in (SMB) networking. Here's a video that covers this:

Set Up USB Storage on an Asus Router

This approach does allow you to access the same drive content from the internet i.e. when you are away from home if you are ok with this security-wise.

The concurrent file access is trickier: read access is no problem but cordinating write access to the same file is tricky when you are using direct filesystem access.

This approach does have the added benefits of making any media content available to streaming DNLA and/or iTunes clients if you need this.

progers 17-12-2015 17:30

Re: Network Drive
 
I have a Synology DS215, it takes two disk drives so you can connect up in RAID format for security. It plugs into your hub and is easy to set up. It comes with loads of free apps, eg Cloud Station which backs up your files as you change them, you can access it remotely if you wish too.

alanbjames 18-12-2015 00:56

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35813130)
You should be able to connect a USB drive to your ASUS router and share this on the LAN via the built-in (SMB) networking. Here's a video that covers this:

Set Up USB Storage on an Asus Router

This approach does allow you to access the same drive content from the internet i.e. when you are away from home if you are ok with this security-wise.

The concurrent file access is trickier: read access is no problem but cordinating write access to the same file is tricky when you are using direct filesystem access.

This approach does have the added benefits of making any media content available to streaming DNLA and/or iTunes clients if you need this.

Would i be able to use an external 1TB drive?

ianch99 18-12-2015 09:10

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35813367)
Would i be able to use an external 1TB drive?

Should be fine. Came across this on google:

Plug-n-Share Disks Compatibility List

alanbjames 18-12-2015 09:15

Re: Network Drive
 
Ta i will give it a try later sometime.

alanbjames 20-12-2015 18:52

Re: Network Drive
 
I think a network drive is a better option.

I followed that video and setup the drive and network and i have tried two drives and get really bad read\write speeds.

It starts off around 1.1mb/s and drops to around 34k where it hangs and then jumps back up and falls and hangs, then jumps again. It took me almost 40mins to download 462mb from the USB drive to my PC.

ianch99 20-12-2015 19:40

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35813731)
I think a network drive is a better option.

I followed that video and setup the drive and network and i have tried two drives and get really bad read\write speeds.

It starts off around 1.1mb/s and drops to around 34k where it hangs and then jumps back up and falls and hangs, then jumps again. It took me almost 40mins to download 462mb from the USB drive to my PC.

Hi Alan, these speeds do seem low. Here's a TBB review of the N66u and the speeds they got with a USB HDD here:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/hardwa...6u.html#backup

Quote:

We tested the USB systems read/write performance by using a large (1 GigaByte) file and timing the operations. We have included the speeds reading and writing to the same device when connected to a PC.
File copy to USB stick connected to RT-N66U 26 Mbps (Mega bits per second)
File read from USB stick connected to RT-N66U 91 Mbps
File copy to USB connected to PC 33 Mbps
File read from USB stick connected to PC 125 Mbps
File copy to USB 2 HDD connected to RT-N66U 126 Mbps
File read from USB 2 HDD connected to RT-N66U 85 Mbps
File copy to USB 2 HDD connected to PC 240 Mbps
File read from USB 2 HDD connected to PC 235 Mbps
File read from routers WAN FTP server (USB HDD) 103 Mbps
File copy to routers WAN FTP server (USB HDD) 59.4 Mbps

The USB system on the RT-N66U seems pretty fast, but the difference between using a USB stick and a USB 2.0 hard drive reveals how important the choice of storage media is when using the RT-N66U as a media server.
To be fair, the router will always be a poor substiute for a dedicated NAS. The HP MicroServer N40L I have running Open Media Vault will deliver 800+Mbps over AFP/SMB network shares but this is much more costly to setup and maintain relative to what you have with the router.

jb66 20-12-2015 19:54

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http://www.ebuyer.com/620412-buffalo...-ls210d0301-eu

progers 21-12-2015 08:31

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http://www.trustedreviews.com/synology-ds215j-review

This is £129 from Amazon, you use your own disk drives, I have two 1Tb drives in RAID format for security. The backup software, cloud station backs up each file as you save it.

The Buffalo NAS backup software does a complete back up so you would need additional software if you want to back up as you go

alanbjames 22-12-2015 23:26

Re: Network Drive
 
I bit the bullet and got the synology ds615j with a 3TB WD Red NAS drive.

It was a bit of a pain in the rear after i setup it wouldnt accept my user or password which i looked at the forums and its a common issue. I had to do the reset and login using the standard admin and then change all my details manually.

alanbjames 23-12-2015 20:37

Re: Network Drive
 
What sort of transfer speeds should i be getting on this?

Atm im getting an average of 87-91mb/s.

Hom3r 23-12-2015 21:22

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Is that wired?

It sounds right for a 100MB connection.

alanbjames 23-12-2015 21:33

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its wired yes on a 1GB connection.

progers 24-12-2015 08:35

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35814045)
I bit the bullet and got the synology ds615j with a 3TB WD Red NAS drive.

It was a bit of a pain in the rear after i setup it wouldnt accept my user or password which i looked at the forums and its a common issue. I had to do the reset and login using the standard admin and then change all my details manually.

What's the spec of the DS615? I can't find it anywhere

alanbjames 24-12-2015 19:21

Re: Network Drive
 
https://www.synology.com/en-global/products/DS215j#spec

progers 25-12-2015 18:02

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35814287)

That's great Alan, you put 615 in your post!

If you need any help, pm me, it's the same as I have.

alanbjames 25-12-2015 19:40

Re: Network Drive
 
Sorry i have 615 on the brain for some reason and thanks for your help :)

qasdfdsaq 30-12-2015 03:45

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90MB/sec is fine

90Mb/sec is poor

90mb/sec isn't even possible.

General Maximus 02-01-2016 18:07

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Good choice to go for a proper NAS. If I had got here in time I would have recommended Buffalo instead of Synology but at least you have gone in the right direction. I have got a 2x3tb Linkstation which can be setup with various raid options and can be accessed from anywhere on the network.

alanbjames 02-01-2016 18:45

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Thats what i like about this NAS. I can access it from any of my 2 Pcs and my laptop when its connected wirelessly.

progers 08-01-2016 08:52

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35815305)
Good choice to go for a proper NAS. If I had got here in time I would have recommended Buffalo instead of Synology but at least you have gone in the right direction. I have got a 2x3tb Linkstation which can be setup with various raid options and can be accessed from anywhere on the network.

General, I've had Buffalo and the Synergy and have to say I much prefer the Synology, much easier to use and a great range of add ons like Cloud Station for back up and Surveillance Station for my security cameras (if only they worked wirelessly with that bit of kit we are currently testing shhhh)

SnoopZ 08-03-2016 22:51

Re: Network Drive
 
Can you put a Plex media server on the DS215j?

broadbandking 09-03-2016 19:32

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Was the benefit of having your plex server on your NAS and not your PC, I had it set up to read from the NAS and it worked perfect

SnoopZ 09-03-2016 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35825890)
Was the benefit of having your plex server on your NAS and not your PC, I had it set up to read from the NAS and it worked perfect

I don't want to have to have my PC on basically so it is a huge benefit to have it on a NAS along with the rest of the movies where i could access it from other rooms with the right kit.

I currently use the very basic media server on my Xbox One and wanted to try it via the Plex app on there.

Although you do make a very good point as the PC is usually on when i want to watch a movie so i may try it as long as it can see my NAS where the files are stored.

I was originally asking this question as my Mybook World has started to go pear shaped so i may buy another NAS to replace it.

broadbandking 09-03-2016 20:18

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35825898)
I don't want to have to have my PC on basically so it is a huge benefit to have it on a NAS along with the rest of the movies where i could access it from other rooms with the right kit.

I currently use the very basic media server on my Xbox One and wanted to try it via the Plex app on there.

Although you do make a very good point as the PC is usually on when i want to watch a movie so i may try it as long as it can see my NAS where the files are stored.

I was originally asking this question as my Mybook World has started to go pear shaped so i may buy another NAS to replace it.

When I did have my NAS all I did was map the drive and when plex asked where to look for media I pointed it to my NAS and was fine.

SnoopZ 10-03-2016 19:38

Re: Network Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35825904)
When I did have my NAS all I did was map the drive and when plex asked where to look for media I pointed it to my NAS and was fine.

All sorted now i have the Plex server on the PC streaming media off my NAS to the Xbox One Plex app, it sure looks alot better than the built in media player.


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