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Osem 10-12-2015 21:25

Corbyn supported fraudster's bail application
 
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Four men have been convicted over a phone scam carried out across the south of England that defrauded 18 pensioners out of a total of £600,000.

Mohamed Dahir, 23, Sakaria Aden, 22, and Yasser Abukar, 24, were found guilty of conspiring to commit fraud.

Mohammed Sharif Abokar, 28, was convicted at the Old Bailey of converting criminal property. All four are from north London.

The scam involved gang members posing on the phone as police officers.

A fifth man, Ibrahim Farah, 23, also from north London, was acquitted of conspiring to commit fraud.

The Metropolitan Police said the fraud was uncovered after a separate terrorist investigation found payments in a bank account used by someone who later travelled to Syria...

... Dahir's defence barrister Patrick Harte told the court his client had a letter from Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn "setting out his roots in the area" of Islington. The letter had been sent as part of Dahir's earlier bail application, Mr Harte told the press.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35064360

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A convicted fraudster was behind bars tonight despite a letter from Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to an Old Bailey judge supporting his bail application.

Mohammed Dahir was one of four men convicted of swindling a string of frail pensioners out of more than £600,000 of their life savings...

Dahir was granted bail on May 21 this year when he was awaiting trial and his application was supported by Corbyn’s letter.

The Labour leader’s letter was raised a second time in the failed attempt to get bail a second time today.
...
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3134716.html

It's a pity this guy's 'roots' didn't include decency and honesty.

Taf 11-12-2015 09:57

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If they were supporting terrorism in any way why are they even being allowed to claim bail?

Ramrod 11-12-2015 11:15

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They weren't up for that, 'simply' fraud.
Says a lot about Corbyn. I detest the man.

Maggy 11-12-2015 12:30

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Oh look another post about that evil man .How novel.

Osem 11-12-2015 12:46

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35812412)
Oh look another post about that evil man .How novel.

Oh look another post by someone who's evidently not interested in contributing to the thread, how novel.

tweedle 11-12-2015 12:56

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Why did Corbyn write the letter? We're this fraudsters personal and close friends of his?

Osem 11-12-2015 12:57

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812401)
They weren't up for that, 'simply' fraud.
Says a lot about Corbyn. I detest the man.

Yes, the Syria thing was a result of some other investigation. It'll be interesting to see where that goes.

ianch99 11-12-2015 14:02

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35812412)
Oh look another post about that evil man .How novel.

:clap:

rhyds 11-12-2015 14:15

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The question is how often would an MP write in support of a bail application in this way?

Ramrod 11-12-2015 14:33

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35812412)
Oh look another post about that evil man .

Yes, and he is either evil or possibly just a simpleton. Either way, because of the position he is in, he needs exposing at every opportunity.

Osem 11-12-2015 14:36

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Originally Posted by tweedle (Post 35812417)
Why did Corbyn write the letter? We're this fraudsters personal and close friends of his?

I suspect it was an opportunity to show his support for the poor, oppressed, vulnerable, minorities...

I wonder if he do the same thing now he's the leader of the opposition.

TheDaddy 11-12-2015 20:07

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812435)
Yes, and he is either evil or possibly just a simpleton. Either way, because of the position he is in, he needs exposing at every opportunity.

Trouble is there's something new every day and more often than not there bs, the public aren't buying it either I don't think and those newspaper moguls he threatened to break up can't be happy that despite an almost daily onslaught they still haven't buried him. Of course it also means when something which might be of interest like this for instance comes to light it just gets dismissed as more propoganda

Ramrod 11-12-2015 22:33

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35812485)
Trouble is there's something new every day and more often than not there bs, the public aren't buying it either I don't think and those newspaper moguls he threatened to break up can't be happy that despite an almost daily onslaught they still haven't buried him. Of course it also means when something which might be of interest like this for instance comes to light it just gets dismissed as more propoganda

Dismissed "as more propoganda" by deluded (fellow travellers/useful idiots) socialist twits like him. The rest of us see him for what he is :shrug:

TheDaddy 12-12-2015 00:06

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812495)
Dismissed "as more propoganda" by deluded (fellow travellers/useful idiots) socialist twits like him. The rest of us see him for what he is :shrug:

You'd love that to be true but the only genuine factual example we have so far is the Oldham election, where labour's share of the vote actually went up

Interesting headlines those press barons made up...

http://azvsas.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12...y-our.html?m=1

Hugh 12-12-2015 00:19

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tbf, it was a VERY safe labour seat with an excellent local candidate...

nomadking 12-12-2015 00:55

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In a report earlier this year, the Electoral Commission named Oldham West and Royton as one of the constituencies alleged to have a "greater risk" of voter fraud.
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A number of residents in the town - which, according to the 2011 census, has a relatively large population of people of Pakistani (10.1%) and Bangladeshi (7.3%) origin
With a turnout of just 40% that is a huge voting block.

TheDaddy 12-12-2015 02:47

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35812504)
tbf, it was a VERY safe labour seat with an excellent local candidate...

One which everyone was expecting them to do badly in, so much so the headlines were already written and not only did they win they got a higher turnout, one of the things I like about corbyn is the way he's got these media mogul types squirming

nomadking 12-12-2015 03:22

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35812507)
One which everyone was expecting them to do badly in, so much so the headlines were already written and not only did they win they got a higher turnout, one of the things I like about corbyn is the way he's got these media mogul types squirming

Higher turnout?:confused:
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Labour's total majority was lower this time around but the party ended up with a higher vote share as the turnout - just over 40% - was lower than at May's poll.

TheDaddy 12-12-2015 06:27

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35812509)
Higher turnout?:confused:

Sigh was their majority increased

Hugh 12-12-2015 08:04

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Actually, their majority decreased, from 14738 to 10722.

Their percentage majority (on a lower turnout) increased to 38.7% from 34.2%.

Ramrod 12-12-2015 12:53

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.......and they were probably voting for the labour candidate despite Corbyn, not because of him.

Osem 12-12-2015 18:23

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Or because someone 'told them to' like in Tower Hamlets...

nomadking 12-12-2015 19:03

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It's not as if he would stand up in court in support of somebody who pleaded guilty in connection with murder, would he?:rolleyes:
Link
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MP Jeremy Corbyn made a heartfelt appeal in court on Monday on behalf of a man involved in a gang feud which left one dead and another with brain damage.
The youth, Yahya Salah, 21, was a friend of Mr Corbyn’s eldest son, Ben, from the time they both attended Acland Burghley School in Tufnell Park.
...
“They are not angels, I know,” he said, as Judge Peter Ader challenged the glowing character references that made the accused “sound like peace campaigners”.

Kymmy 12-12-2015 19:48

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I was a long time labour voter until the last elections... They went down hill since Blair left so looked at the options and voted conservative.

Since then Corbyn got leadership and I can honestly say that it's now hit rock bottom. They have a leader who promised old labour (not my style) yet has based every decision not on the party's wishes but purely based on his own personal views.

So now count myself as a conservative and not a labour supporter and will do until at very least Corbyn is removed

denphone 12-12-2015 20:11

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Personally l think we have four very poor leaders currently so basically its choosing one from a very bad bunch as none of them measure up to some of this country's leaders from yonder.

Kymmy 12-12-2015 20:25

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The thing is that Blair for me was the first labour government that I ever knew as we only came back into the country after Thatcher got into power so I never knew "Old" labour

Ramrod 12-12-2015 21:29

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35812605)
So now count myself as a conservative and not a labour supporter and will do until at very least Corbyn is removed

I'm a conservative voter and yet am deeply unhappy with this current bunch :(

Osem 12-12-2015 21:32

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35812611)
The thing is that Blair for me was the first labour government that I ever knew as we only came back into the country after Thatcher got into power so I never knew "Old" labour

You didn't miss much. Wilson told us that devaluing Sterling wouldn't affect the pound in our pockets and justified it by claiming we needed to break out of the straightjacket of boom and bust economics.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/3208396.stm

Now where have we heard words to that effect before?... :confused: :rolleyes:

Ramrod 12-12-2015 22:13

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35812611)
The thing is that Blair for me was the first labour government that I ever knew as we only came back into the country after Thatcher got into power so I never knew "Old" labour

My family emigrated to South Africa in the 70's because labour f*cked up the economy so badly.

Kymmy 13-12-2015 00:12

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812627)
My family emigrated to South Africa in the 70's because labour f*cked up the economy so badly.

LOL.. Exactly the same here... Which part of SA did you end up in?

TheDaddy 13-12-2015 04:09

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35812515)
Actually, their majority decreased, from 14738 to 10722.

Their percentage majority (on a lower turnout) increased to 38.7% from 34.2%.

Thanks Hugh, knew it was something like that but couldn't remember exactly what, I blame this stinking cold!


Corbyn has popularity increase in polls to

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6770876.html

Damien 13-12-2015 07:14

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35812647)
Thanks Hugh, knew it was something like that but couldn't remember exactly what, I blame this stinking cold!


Corbyn has popularity increase in polls to

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6770876.html

The Independent is a being a bit misleading that those poll results though. For example far more people also disagree with him being a good leader. Additionally this 'positive difference' rating has dropped since September with more disagreeing with that than they did in September.

Mr K 13-12-2015 08:29

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I heard Corbyn is solely responsible for climate change. He also eats babies and is responsible for England's rugby disaster. Shame on him.

Our media is appalling. You expect it from the Daily Fail , but now even the Torygraph is going for daily character assassination, instead of reporting news. I suppose its just a reflection of the low intelligence of all those that lap this up. Fortunately a lot, even those not sympathetic to Corbyn are seeing through it.

Refreshingly he is very open and consistent with his views. These haven't changed once he has become leader and he doesn't alter them to win votes or please media moguls. I think the press are running scared of someone who takes no notice of them and they can't control.

tweedle 13-12-2015 09:47

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35812657)
I heard Corbyn is solely responsible for climate change. He also eats babies and is responsible for England's rugby disaster. Shame on him.

Our media is appalling. You expect it from the Daily Fail , but now even the Torygraph is going for daily character assassination, instead of reporting news. I suppose its just a reflection of the low intelligence of all those that lap this up. Fortunately a lot, even those not sympathetic to Corbyn are seeing through it.

Refreshingly he is very open and consistent with his views. These haven't changed once he has become leader and he doesn't alter them to win votes or please media moguls. I think the press are running scared of someone who takes no notice of them and they can't control.

It's always good to read other members opinions, unfortunately sometimes members can confuse their own personal opinions with facts. Interesting you think those who disagree with Corbyn are of low intelligence.

Maggy 13-12-2015 09:57

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I just want a government that isn't mainly made up of people who are out for themselves and their future prospects at the expense of taxpayers and voters.

denphone 13-12-2015 10:48

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Originally Posted by tweedle (Post 35812665)
It's always good to read other members opinions, unfortunately sometimes members can confuse their own personal opinions with facts. Interesting you think those who disagree with Corbyn are of low intelligence.

They certainly are not of low intelligence but it would be nice if there was more reasoned adult debate rather then a minority insulting members if their political thinking is different to theirs.:)

Osem 13-12-2015 11:00

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812627)
My family emigrated to South Africa in the 70's because labour f*cked up the economy so badly.

So, let's get this right. Your family emigrated here, then our economy got cocked up so they emigrated again to SA and their economy got cocked up so they came back here and the same thing happened again???

There seems to be a common theme there somewhere and it's not just Labour's economic ineptitude mate... :erm:



:D ;)

Ramrod 13-12-2015 11:52

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35812640)
LOL.. Exactly the same here... Which part of SA did you end up in?

Newcastle in Northern Natal. Stayed there till '81.
You?

---------- Post added at 12:52 ---------- Previous post was at 12:45 ----------

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35812673)
So, let's get this right. Your family emigrated here, then our economy got cocked up so they emigrated again to SA and their economy got cocked up so they came back here and the same thing happened again???

There seems to be a common theme there somewhere and it's not just Labour's economic ineptitude mate... :erm:



:D ;)

lol. They didn't 'emigrate' here so much as fled for their lives from the communist occupation of their country. That's why I detest Corbyn. He represents an evil system of opression that for some reason many in the UK have forgotten about and now call those of us who can remember the lessons of history as having 'low intelligence'. Amazing.....and ironic because it's precisely UK socialists like that Stalin would have called "fellow travellers" or "useful idiots"

Ken W 13-12-2015 12:09

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All fraudsters found guilty should have all their assets seized and a minimum of 1000 lashes over a 7 continues day and chained up and thrown in the dungeon.

Ignitionnet 13-12-2015 13:05

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35812678)
All fraudsters found guilty should have all their assets seized and a minimum of 1000 lashes over a 7 continues day and chained up and thrown in the dungeon.

Plagiarism from the Saudi Arabia penal code isn't cool. ;)

Osem 13-12-2015 13:23

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812676)
lol. They didn't 'emigrate' here so much as fled for their lives from the communist occupation of their country. That's why I detest Corbyn. He represents an evil system of opression that for some reason many in the UK have forgotten about and now call those of us who can remember the lessons of history as having 'low intelligence'. Amazing.....and ironic because it's precisely UK socialists like that Stalin would have called "fellow travellers" or "useful idiots"

Out of the frying pan into the fire you could say then. ;) :)

Like you, I'm not likely to forget Labour's previous anytime soon.

Ken W 13-12-2015 14:01

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35812683)
Plagiarism from the Saudi Arabia penal code isn't cool. ;)

What punishment for fraudsters would you suggest?

Kymmy 13-12-2015 14:02

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812676)
Newcastle in Northern Natal. Stayed there till '81.
You?

Springs, Transvaal. We also came back about the same time :)

Damien 13-12-2015 14:08

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35812691)
What punishment for fraudsters would you suggest?

Depending on the seriousness a jail term of some kind.

Ken W 13-12-2015 15:03

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35812694)
Depending on the seriousness a jail term of some kind.


A couple of years ago I attended a police meeting in my village and the there was a Detective Inspector there and he said the ring leaders get 7 year prison which means they would be out on parole in about 3.5 years,:td:

tweedle 13-12-2015 16:58

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35812657)
I heard Corbyn is solely responsible for climate change. He also eats babies and is responsible for England's rugby disaster. Shame on him.

Our media is appalling. You expect it from the Daily Fail , but now even the Torygraph is going for daily character assassination, instead of reporting news. I suppose its just a reflection of the low intelligence of all those that lap this up. Fortunately a lot, even those not sympathetic to Corbyn are seeing through it.

Refreshingly he is very open and consistent with his views. These haven't changed once he has become leader and he doesn't alter them to win votes or please media moguls. I think the press are running scared of someone who takes no notice of them and they can't control.

I assume you're a Corbyn supporter? If so could you answer something for me. I have read Corbyn is a atheist. If this is true then he thinks all religion is poppy cock. Does he tell his friends from various religions that he thinks their God does not exist?

He obviously won't support somethings he believes is nonsense, that's just hypocritical.

Ignitionnet 13-12-2015 17:08

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Originally Posted by tweedle (Post 35812706)
I have read Corbyn is a atheist. If this is true then he thinks all religion is poppy cock. Does he tell his friends from various religions that he thinks their God does not exist?

He obviously won't support somethings he believes is nonsense, that's just hypocritical.

I'll pick up on this one.

Just because he may think religion is nonsense doesn't obligate him to try and force other people to fit with his beliefs, and I'm not aware the man supports religion.

It's the many other alarming things that he definitely supports that freak me out, not his lack of attempts to convert theists.

tweedle 13-12-2015 17:53

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35812707)
I'll pick up on this one.

Just because he may think religion is nonsense doesn't obligate him to try and force other people to fit with his beliefs, and I'm not aware the man supports religion.

It's the many other alarming things that he definitely supports that freak me out, not his lack of attempts to convert theists.

I never said he should convert anyone, what I'm wondering is... When he stands next to people of various religions and supports them do they not object to the fact he does not believe their "God" exists?

If he were a Christian leader of the Labour Party that would be important in defining him as a leader, if he were Muslim that would be important as defining him as leader, surely being atheist is important as defining him as a leader in such a multi faith country? But yet it seems to be ignored.

Ramrod 13-12-2015 18:16

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35812692)
Springs, Transvaal. We also came back about the same time :)

Spooky! :D

Kymmy 13-12-2015 18:43

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The one thing about Corbyn that to me says it all was his comment on that he would never push the nuclear button after his own party had voted to keep trident. That one comment literally told the party that he doesn't care about their choice but instead he will follow his own choices as well as ruining trident as an effective deterrant.

ianch99 13-12-2015 21:30

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Originally Posted by tweedle (Post 35812710)
I never said he should convert anyone, what I'm wondering is... When he stands next to people of various religions and supports them do they not object to the fact he does not believe their "God" exists?

If he were a Christian leader of the Labour Party that would be important in defining him as a leader, if he were Muslim that would be important as defining him as leader, surely being atheist is important as defining him as a leader in such a multi faith country? But yet it seems to be ignored.

You seem to be grasping at straws so you can trash the guy. The UK is not a multi-faith country, the majority, from what I understand do not believe in God or gods ..

Ramrod 13-12-2015 22:23

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35812740)
You seem to be grasping at straws so you can trash the guy.

Don't need to clutch at straws to trash him. Simply pointing out that he's a socialist should be enough to make him a laughing stock.

Osem 14-12-2015 06:46

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Decades of being an inept idiot clearly aren't enough evidence for some deluded folks who'll vote for anything tinted rouge. It's all right wing propaganda blah, blah, blah... :rofl:

Ramrod 14-12-2015 12:09

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35812762)
Decades of being an inept idiot clearly aren't enough evidence for some deluded folks who'll vote for anything tinted rouge. It's all right wing propaganda blah, blah, blah... :rofl:

They have several other trusted retorts on standby:
"that news about Corbyn was published in a right of center rag" (Therefore no case to answer irrespective of the report being accurate)
or, and this is my personal favourite:
"oh look, another anti Corbyn report" (ie. because he keeps putting his foot in it, we should therefore not report on it anymore :rolleyes: )

ianch99 14-12-2015 13:15

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35812762)
Decades of being an inept idiot clearly aren't enough evidence for some deluded folks who'll vote for anything tinted rouge. It's all right wing propaganda blah, blah, blah... :rofl:

Same old broken record ... :blah: :blah: :blah:

Osem 14-12-2015 13:37

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812799)
They have several other trusted retorts on standby:
"that news about Corbyn was published in a right of center rag" (Therefore no case to answer irrespective of the report being accurate)
or, and this is my personal favourite:
"oh look, another anti Corbyn report" (ie. because he keeps putting his foot in it, we should therefore not report on it anymore :rolleyes: )

I can see we're going to be extra busy while 'Corbyn the Clown' is running the circus... :D

Ramrod 15-12-2015 13:10

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Interesting article: Jeremy Corbyn has become the Left's Enoch Powell

Osem 15-12-2015 13:40

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Sound like Tory lies and Murdoch propaganda to me. We all know that only the nasty Tory party engages in such practices as bullying, threats and intimidation. It's all 'friendly' politics for Corbyn's cronies now... :rolleyes:

It's all very reminiscent of Militant's antics.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29953611

At least they were exactly what it said on the tin...


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