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If the video currently spreading is genuine then it's certainly an act of terrorism, low key but it was committed whilst shouting the words 'This is for Syria'

Came across it on Facebook before I'd even seen the news or this thread and realized what I'd actually watched just now.

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I drove past Leyton stone station about ten, nothing to see apart from police cars by then though

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So our bombing Iraq was fine, but Syria just a bridge too far?

Mentalist.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...?utm_hp_ref=tw

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Thereby summing up any plastic Muslim who takes such 'action' against the "non-believers".

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Any news on the victims? I hope they are alright ..

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I'd say over the coming weeks "terrorism" is going to increase tenfold.

it's all going to be retaliation. revenge, and a lot of doing what one feels needs to be done in the name of their religion.

and a lot of it is going to be on normal streets and cities.

Xmas is coming. there's always something big at Xmas.

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One seriously hurt, two with minor injuries.

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You may not be meaning to, but it sounds as if you are looking forward to this...

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And if we'd been in the US or large parts of Europe our budding jihadist would probably have armed himself with an automatic weapon and done a whole lot more damage than this guy did.

Is he just a nutter who's suddenly decided to associate himself with a cause he may know little/nothing about, is he someone who's been affected by the sort of propaganda the extremists deliberately propagate or is he just someone who's acted in a fit of rage and lashed out because he's angry at what's happening? Time will tell but I think we're going to have to accept that what we used to consider the definition of terrorism is going to have to change along with the changing nature of the threat we face.

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Not at all.
but I moticed that you agree by saying "this"

A lot of these are going to be random opportunists and wannabe 'heros'
you could say that now is the time to do something about your true beliefs in your religion to many of them

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Actually, you noticed wrong - I don't agree; there you go again, making invalid assumptions that back up your fevered imagination...

By "this", I meant the imaginary apocalyptic scenario you envisaged, not reality.

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Oh, ok. I believe you ;)

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Is this similar to that strange imagination of yours that conjured up out of nowhere that that Gary sounded as if he was looking forward to more bloodshed, out of some sentences that said nothing of the sort? :)

Must be something in the water today!

This guy is probably a mental case or simply a murderer. Did he go out with the intention to hurt someone or to incite terror? No one can agree on what the term terrorism means anymore as it has been used and abused by governments to bring in unjust laws and to invade the privacy of it's citizens.

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It is rather perverse Muslims trying to claim retaliation when a major aim of the attacks on IS in Syria etc is to prevent attacks on and protect MUSLIMS.

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Wrong type of muslim perhaps? They've been fighting and murdering each other for a long time, and I doubt that will change.

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That would imply that Islam is the real underlying problem and NOT actions taken by the West.

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This one was captured alive, perhaps we'll get to see if he was opportunistic or more hard core.

Judging from the methodology/weapon used/watching the video, looks to be a terrorist walt wanting fame.

We'll see in due course.

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It is perverse - as perverse as pro-life people who shoot up and kill people at Planned Parenthood clinics.

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Not really as the pro-lifers want to stop more killing, but the "retaliators" and their many supporters want the killing to continue unabated.

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I am sure that makes the victims of the pro-life shooters feel much better about it...

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As opposed to the unborn babies that "feel" pain when they are ripped apart by the abortion process?
Link
Research has found that they do feel pain at 20 weeks. The 20 weeks is only because they didn't look earlier, so it may well start before then.

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What Planned Parenthood actually do Everything Planned Parenthood do is legal, and attacking their workers and patients is illegal.

It just seems strange that people justify the actions of religious fundamentalists using a perverted version of their faith to justify killing people...

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That's what I've been saying for while :(

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To whom was the cry "You ain't no Muslim bruv" directed?

The attacker or the policeman cuffing him?

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Taf, you are totally correct. I think the biggest problem is that even though this mad idiot was going through the station with a knife, there were still people desperate to get to the train.
And that insane woman going towards the police officer who had they guy on the floor, what was she playing at.

I would say well done to the cops for bringing the guy under restraint.

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The attacker

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Leytonstone Tube Station.... This is not a terrorist act, it is some poor deranged black guy who is not even a muslim going off the rails.

The woman who approached the guy on the floor was probably very upset and shouting some choice words at him.

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Are you sure?

I've used the London Underground enough times to learn to ignore the mad ranters. Maybe I'll have to change tack and start watching for weapons and listening for muslim phrases....

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I think it was supposed to mean "You aint no Muslim.... a real Muslim wouldn't kill. you're just a nutter"

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The context of the event makes it very unlikely it was at the officer.

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Why? The "asian" policeman arresting/handcuffing the attacker could have been the subject of the taunt.

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Because one of those two had just stabbed someone, far more likely to be the target of abuse that the guy arresting him. Earlier in the video the guy is also shouting 'who is this idiot' whilst the attacker is still acting violently which against is presumably the attacker rather than one officer of many.

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You don't need to have a religion to be a terrorist.

Definition of terrorist: A person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.

As soon as he ranted on about Syria it became an act of terrorism no matter how small or large.

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Not sure if anyone saw this but on Channel 4 News they had an interview with the brother who claimed:

• The guy has had a history of mental health problems including being sectioned
• His behaviour got worse over the summer and his brother phoned the police to report that

Channel 4 said the police confirmed they received a call over this guy's mental health 3 weeks ago.

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To be fair Damien. you can't assume somebody with mental health issues is going to stab somebody.
but it is probably best to keep them away from a knife, gun or hammer shop.