NHS Spends Millions On Larger Equipment For Obese - Put an extra tax on Fast Food
 

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I know loads of people that are obese, trouble is. This is what is putting pressure on the NHS.

Apart from what the NHS can supply is quite simple. The Government keep advising us on what tax they can put on. They can start by putting an extra tax on fast food chains, like McDonalds or KFC etc

Most of my friends go into Fast food chains and fish and chip shops and buy crap food. I know someone that has second's at cafes.

This is what is causing the problem. You have to start at the beginning, to find out what people are eating. Yes, they may have a medical problem that makes them obese. But l would say that fast foods is a close second to that.

I am allowed KFC once a week, and that is GPs orders

Some of my mates are in the 20 stone region, l weigh 17 stone, but cycle each day in my job and check my weight each week.

But l believe that an extra tax can be placed on fast food chains, and work upwards

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When we sort out what people can and can't eat and their weight.

we should sort out how ugly they are.
how they talk.
how they walk.
how ugly their baby is.
how pretty their gardens are.

we probably won't though because they don't involve being able to make a big fat profit. and to get richer.

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We don't go to them so it would not affect us but personally l cannot see it happening.

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12" doorway. Job done.:D

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Say we did pay this tax and there's still fat people.
have fat people. and all those upcoming fat people earned the right and payed the fat tax demanded off them to be fat and proud?

or are we still going to say they're costing us millions even though the fattys have paid millions in that tax money?

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Taxing foodstuffs will not stop people becoming obese. Except for the few who have genuine medical problems obesity is caused by poor diet and lack of exercise, it's as simple as that!

Put whatever taxes you like on food but it won't solve the problem. As long as people continue to settle down for hours in front of their TVs or PCs eating their supermarket ready meals, home delivered fast foods and curries and pizzas, and drinking vast quantities of wines, beers, etc. Then they go to bed. They get up next morning probably miss breakfast except for a coffee, get in the car to go to work maybe pick up a disgusting McD McBacon Roll on the way. They sit at a desk snacking on high sugar or high fat snacks and other rubbish until it's time to go home and the cycle starts again.

They probably order their food online to be delivered so don't even get a walk around the supermarket.

Late that evening they are probably supping a beer or glass of wine while they chat on forums or FaceBook complaining about their ailments, bad guts, increasing weight, blaming everything on anybody else except themselves, saying the government ought to do something about it!!!!

Education and encouragement is what is required, not taxes!!!

Rant over!

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There's nothing wrong with fast food.

There is something wrong with people who eat almost nothing but fast food.

Lazy? Don't know how to cook at home? No time to cook at home?

Taxing it would be a stupid idea, as would a "Sugar Tax". Look at the taxes paid on tobacco and alcohol. Have they diminished demand or just filled the tax coffers?

And anyway, what's the difference between fast food and eating in a cafe or restaurant? Speed of delivery perhaps, definitely cost, but probably not much difference in calorific values.

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The modern answer to any problem tax it its pathetic and it's time certain people took responsibility for themselves you don't need to be an expert of anything to know three big macs and two large fries a day isn't good for you. Oneway to cut down on it is to stop giving benefits to people with issues directly linked to their lifestyle that would be one big step right there or failing that give them an appropriate timeframe to resolve their lifestyle and then cut benefits. We need less tax in this country not more and certainly no new ones to be abused by whatever lot gets voted in in the future.

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You have a prescription for KFC?

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I'm much better than I used to be, always eating in fast food places. Now only once a month when I have a burger king at Addenbrookes while I'm there. The prices in there feel like there's a tax on it already.

I wish my GP told me to though - that'd be great.

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No. I think Arthur means that he might like to go to KFC like 7 days a week. but his doc's ordered him that he's only allowed once a week.

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Unless you're 7 feet tall you might need to lose a few pounds yourself, Sir. You need to be 6'4" to not be classed as clinically obese.

A tax on fast food wouldn't make a dent on those who are better off, and punishes those who are less affluent but might want a treat here and there.

I'd suggest we need to increase the price of not just fast food but all convenience food, and mitigate it with subsidies for healthier options.

That or work on ensuring eveyone has more money.

Fundamentally, though, when you can eat your 2,000 calories a day in junk for a couple of quid, while it costs way more to get your 2,000 calories a day from good foods, there's always going to be a problem at the lower end of the income scale. Taxation isn't going to help with that.

The sugar tax I do kinda get, especially when it comes to fizzy drinks that are laden with the stuff. Fast food, no. Unfair to single that out while leaving half the contents of an Iceland store and indeed most of every supermarket's ready meal aisle alone.

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Father than tax fast food/sugar ban MPs expenses and that will save the taxpayer billions.

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Hom3, that would be perfect on expenses. I can never understand why they get a wage, when they can claim everything on expsenes.

Next time people eat a Kebab, can you imagine how much fat is in that. In fact with Jamie Oliver saying that there must be a tax on sugary drinks. makes me wonder. Wasn't he ranting about food supplied in school. Because he couldn't get his own way with the government, he has started saying this.

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If truth be told. Jamie half asleep Oliver isn't interested in sugar and there being a sugar tax.

it's just his over inflated ego talking to keep him in the limelight.

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There are people who don't know how to cook because cooking wasn't actually taught for many years.Some pale imitation called food technology took it's place from the 80s well into this century..in which children were taught about the retail and technology of making foods like bread etc.However they barely actually learn how to make a nutritional meal from scratch because they spent more time designing a food product and it's packaging than actually cooking anything..So a whole generation learned how to look at a ready prepared meal as a way of life..:rolleyes:

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That I agree with. Absolutely no need for the ridiculous amounts of sugar piled into soft drinks.

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Maggy, my children, both boys now in their mid 30's, know all about proper food and nutrition and are well able to cook a proper meal from scratch. They were encouraged by us, their parents, to help in the kitchen when they were young. Even pre-school they "helped" mix and bake cakes, saw how things were prepared for a meal, encouraged to help do all these things just as I had with my mother as a young boy. Junk food was a rare "treat" for my children maybe after a swimming session when we may have taken them to McDonalds, something I always hated but tolerated. They are both healthy, good physique and good build/weight balance.

I am of the same generation as yourself and it seems that unfortunately many parents of our generation have failed their children by indulging them instead of educating them thus creating problems for future generations. However good, or bad, the education system has been at teaching in this area ultimately parental guidance is what has failed.

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No need to tax fast food or sugar people just need to learn about having some self control.

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It'd be great if my GP ordered me to have KFC once a week

I'm 6'4" and 15- 16 stone and am pretty sure I'm classed as obese, this bmi thing needs looking at imo

Or just learn that if you can get 3 chicken wings, chips and a drink for 2 quid then it's probably not going to do you any good.

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It isn't just fast food: I was in my local carvery recently and there were three female heffalumps at a nerby table. They waddled off and returned with plates heaped so high I doubt you could have got another roastie on them. They then proceeded to wolf down the lot.

Sheer gluttony and I doubt any tax would have stopped them. Shame though might: Say have a weight sensor in the entrance that sets off alarm bells and flashing lights when a fatty walks over it.:D

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What we need to do is TEACH our children to cook from scratch..and nutrition should be taught in schools.It amazes me how many people don't know even the differing food groups..and importance in their diet.

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The kids I know just wamt to drink the 'trendy' lucozade energy drink. and eat the 'trendy' McD's.

is there any parents out there that know that letting your kid drink fizzy pop constantly before, during and after meals suppresses their appetite. and is the reason why little Johnny is "Not Hungry!" and is why you "can't understand" ?

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After seeing what "cooking classes" were like in secondary school (bring in a premade pizza base, cover it in tomato puree and bits of precut cheese and ham... then take it home to cook) I offered my services to the twins' school.

Only 30 minutes, so I demonstrated how to sharpen knives, then how to use to to peel, slice, dice, etc.). They were not allowed to use sharp knives in case they cut themselves!! Many had never used a knife away from the dinner table!!

The second lesson was a description of the difference between the cooking styles: fry, boil, roast, poach, etc.

The third lesson didn't happen as the Head decided it was pointless!

The teacher never repeated my 2 simple lessons, but went back to the course she was told to deliver. :(

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I approached the parent-teacher group about lessons after school, but was formally told (by letter) that "cooking skills are not a mainstream skill, and not suitable for after school classes)".

With thinking like that, I can see why kids get a raw deal in school these days.

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Before we got equal education in schools us gals spent an afternoon a week cooking.We cooked from scratch and we cooked everything from Christmas cakes to a 3 course meal.We also had to research and do projects on nutrition and later answer exam questions on food and cooking.
After equal education cooking got thrown out of the syllabus.

One secondary school I worked in in recent years introduced an exam catering course for years 10-11..it was the most popular course for both sexes and they had to turn down students because there wasn't enough spaces on the course.Seems some students know what they want and it's more vocational and useful subjects for life.

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When l was at school 30 odd years ago l wanted to do the cooking classes but they turned me down as they said the classes were really for the girls at the school.

Luckily when l left home rather early in my life l learned how to cook for myself by buying cookery books and by asking people if l did not know something.

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I do a mean Pot Noodle.

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Maybe there should also be a tax on social media since this seems to have replaced exercise for so many young people. I believe this to be just as big a problem as junk food. Kids used to be far more active than they are today and that's not down to sugar.

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Well said. I was walking the dog this morning between 11:00 - 12:00 and part of the walk took in a large park, several acres of well maintained grassland with a hard basketball court at it's centre free for all to use! It was a beautiful morning here, but for the 15-20 mins I was in this park throwing the ball for the dog we were the only people there despite it being just a couple of minutes from several hundred houses! 50 years ago when I was a teenage schoolboy during half-term this sort of area would have been teeming with kids playing football, riding bikes, etc. but I suspect todays' kids were sitting in front of screens of PCs or games consoles. As we all know, except for the very few with genuine medical disorders, obesity is down to poor diet and lack of exercise

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As a kid I learnt to cook off my gran and when I became a dad I taught my kids starting off with an old fashioned Sunday lunch and eventually to casseroles and shepherds pie and the like as a result nonevof my kids are obese. It's not just teaching the kids it's about making it fun and a routine for them so they look forward to it we used to play a game to see who was going to do what part of the meal. These days a lot of parents fall into two category's too lazy to do it or too tired to do it after working all week. I'd rather not see another tax as no matter the good intention in introducing it eventually we all know it will be abused as other lifestyle taxes have been.

But if we have to have it then the proceeds should be guaranteed as someone else said as a subsidy towards healthier alternatives.