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Chris 24-09-2015 12:42

Treat meat eaters like smokers, says shadow cabinet vegan
 
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Meat should be treated like tobacco with a public campaign to stop people eating it, Jeremy Corbyn's new vegan shadow farming minister has suggested.
Kerry McCarthy, MP for Bristol East, has irked the British farming industry with her veganism and vice presidency of the anti-hunting League Against Cruel Sports.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...-McCarthy.html

You couldn't make it up ...

denphone 24-09-2015 12:45

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l have only one thing to say to her.:upyours:

heero_yuy 24-09-2015 12:54

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Corbyn and his rabble barely have a brain cell between them. Totally mad. :nutter:

Osem 24-09-2015 13:21

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Yup, they're behaving like a poor sixth form 'council'.

nomadking 24-09-2015 13:52

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Who knows, maybe next they will talk about banning halal and kosher meats with the methods of killing used. Then again maybe not.

Ignitionnet 24-09-2015 14:23

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35800025)
Who knows, maybe next they will talk about banning halal and kosher meats with the methods of killing used. Then again maybe not.

I've asked her about whether she'd support a ban on unstunned slaughter. Awaiting a response.

Taf 24-09-2015 14:56

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35800019)
Yup, they're behaving like a poor sixth form 'council'.

I wonder if any of them got to 6th form? :dunce:

Anonymouse 24-09-2015 15:03

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Oh, please. If our ancestors hadn't hunted for meat and fur as the last glaciation retreated, that prat wouldn't be here to raise the issue!

We are omnivores. There is no legislation or wishful thinking that can change that fact. A healthy diet should include meat - we are not rabbits!

On the other hand, fox hunting should still remain illegal. Hunting an animal when you're not going to eat it is wrong. It isn't"sport" to hunt something that can't fight or shoot back. The same applies to big game hunting. If you're going to hunt, do it because you're in a situation where you have no other choice, e.g. if you're stranded somewhere and you've nothing else to eat. Then it becomes a matter of simple survival and is therefore justified; the hunter is then essentially a predator doing what's necessary to live. Nothing wrong with that at all; no-one complains when a cheetah takes down one of those cute little antelopes.

But hunting for "sport" is vile.

Maggy 24-09-2015 15:47

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Awaits the idiot who suggests banning chocolate as being unhealthy..Anyway until the vast majority of the UK turns vegan there is no chance of that ever happening.

Gary L 24-09-2015 16:14

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35800060)
Awaits the idiot who suggests banning chocolate as being unhealthy..

Chocolate isn't unhealthy. but they'll probably just ban fat people from buying it so they don't get any fatter.

mrmistoffelees 24-09-2015 17:39

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I think she needs a good portion of...

Nah, to easy

Gary L 24-09-2015 17:56

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35800080)
I think she needs a good portion of...

Sausage.

Hom3r 24-09-2015 17:59

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I worked with a Vegan, she looked paste white and ill.

heero_yuy 24-09-2015 18:15

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35800084)
I worked with a Vegan, she looked paste white and ill.

Most of them do. You can't beat getting a decent portion of meat every day.:D

Ignitionnet 24-09-2015 19:44

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35800084)
I worked with a Vegan, she looked paste white and ill.

Diets lacking an essential B vitamin do that.

Pierre 25-09-2015 07:18

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Protein feeds the brain.

nuff said.

Gary L 25-09-2015 08:06

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35800147)
Protein feeds the brain.


It's good for your skin too.

Ignitionnet 25-09-2015 11:31

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35800147)
Protein feeds the brain.

nuff said.

It would explain a few things but that's glucose and, if necessary, ketones.

No response to my question on unstunned slaughter which is unfortunate.

alferret 25-09-2015 13:40

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Gotta love Liebour!

Osem 25-09-2015 13:56

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Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35800196)
Gotta love Liebour!

Some things never change. ;)

OLD BOY 26-09-2015 13:27

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It's comic book politics, isn't it? I think the Greens are more credible than Corbyn's lot, and that's saying something!

The vast majority of the Parliamentary Labour Party should now take control, form a 'New Labour' Party and leave the loony lefties to stew in their own juice. The 'New Labour' party could then immediately assume the mantle of the 'Opposition' to the Government.

heero_yuy 26-09-2015 14:43

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35800317)

The vast majority of the Parliamentary Labour Party should now take control, form a 'New Labour' Party and leave the loony lefties to stew in their own juice. The 'New Labour' party could then immediately assume the mantle of the 'Opposition' to the Government.

I think we had quite enough New Labour the last time round thank you very much. :(

OLD BOY 27-09-2015 20:25

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35800331)
I think we had quite enough New Labour the last time round thank you very much. :(

True, but we need a credible Opposition.

Hom3r 28-09-2015 17:31

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No bitch treat vegans like smokers.

Taf 28-09-2015 19:41

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This is how bandwagons start, something for the "ban everything" crowd to get their teeth into.

Don't they realise there isn't enough arable land to feed the world population just veggies?

Osem 28-09-2015 21:20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35800526)
True, but we need a credible Opposition.

Yes, we could call it Same Old New Old Labour. :D

TheDaddy 29-09-2015 00:31

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35800526)
True, but we need a credible Opposition.

Why it's not like we've got a credible government

Ignitionnet 29-09-2015 10:51

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35800652)
This is how bandwagons start, something for the "ban everything" crowd to get their teeth into.

Don't they realise there isn't enough arable land to feed the world population just veggies?

Taf you are aware that raising cattle is far more land, water and generally resource intensive than growing crops, right?

Taf 29-09-2015 13:13

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Actually cattle rearing is great use of very poor nutrient grasslands where other crops would be very expensive and difficult to grow, Ditto lamb, goat and others. Just producing the fertilisers would ruin most attempts, and most importantly the land itself.

The "bread basket" of northern India, for example is going to collapse dramatically in the not too distant future. And that will mean extreme famine for millions, many vegetarians. All due to excess use of artificial fertilisers.

Chris 29-09-2015 13:49

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Yup. Plenty of Galloway and Highland cattle are grazing around here, on rough, boggy land you can barely call pasture. Chances of arable farming occurring on any of this land is nil. Chances of deriving a very tasty steak ... rather better. :drool:

TheDaddy 29-09-2015 14:07

Re: Treat meat eaters like smokers, says shadow cabinet vegan
 
Wonder if we're doing anything to tackle this instead of attacking meat eaters because if we don't we're all dead

http://world.time.com/2012/12/14/wha...soil-runs-out/

Taf 29-09-2015 14:59

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35800851)
Wonder if we're doing anything to tackle this instead of attacking meat eaters because if we don't we're all dead

http://world.time.com/2012/12/14/wha...soil-runs-out/

It's going to cause major famine, mass migration (that will make the Syrian problem seem negligible) and of course serious unrest (probably wars).

Then there is also the question of fresh water...

Osem 29-09-2015 17:57

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Yes I've long thought we are on the verge of a perfect storm and the recent migration issue in Europe could well be seen in time to be the tipping point although there are plenty of other points of tension around the globe for assorted reasons. When vast numbers of poor and desperate people decide to go on the move and effectively force their way across borders we're in a desperate situation with all sorts of possible ramifications. The planet is too small to sustain the growing population in the manner most people would like and are increasingly willing to fight for. We can add to all that the inevitable cultural/religious tensions which are simmering away all over the place. Whether it's lack of food/water. escaping plague/war and/or just trying to get out of severe poverty, desperate people are starting to do desperate things in large numbers and I can't see any way back from this point.


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