BT discuss their ultrafast future
 

It's that time of every few years when Ofcom conduct their review of BT and Sky, TalkTalk, Vodafone, etc, appeal to Ofcom to separate BT's Openreach division, the division that runs the exchanges, cabling and FTTC/P, from the rest of BT Group.

BT's offer to avoid this happening is discussed in a few places and is standard for BT. Offer a 'carrot' and save the legal action 'stick' for just in case.

Guardian.
Telegraph.
V3.
ISPReview.
Think Broadband.

Basically they say they will deliver a minimum of 5-10Mb nationwide should Ofcom request it.

They will deliver 300Mb-500Mb G.fast or 1Gb FTTP to 10 million premises by 2020, with 1Gb Fibre on Demand available to at least some areas covered by G.fast.

Not featured in the stories but Openreach will move from trial phase to pilot deployments of G.fast next calendar year.

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More on Openreach commitments.

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Saw this in a couple of the usual places this morning.

Taking my own oft-discussed connection as an example (8km, pole mounted, EO line, currently delivering 2.25Mb on a very good day), what sort of tech would Openreach have to put in place in order to give me minimum 5Mb, and at what cost?

In other words, how likely are they to actually make good on any of this?

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In your case they could intercept the larger copper cable coming off the pole, making the pole your 'cabinet', and use microwave as backhaul.

Entirely depends on how much £££ is left over from the BDUK projects, as it would probably need a subsidy of at least £3k per premises passed.

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I've always wondered what BT planned on doing with the 4G spectrum they bought, considering they have never had any plans for running a mobile network.

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They've already backhauled with microwave so it's there if they need to use it.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...ge-westow.html

There is also, of course, satellite.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ote-homes.html

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Indeed, several homes further up the road from us already have free sat installations. Personally I don't like the look of the caps, the high monthly fee or the high latency. I'm holding out for a cable-delivered solution because 2Mb actually does everything we need it to for the time being, so I can afford to wait. My interest in BT's current statement is in how likely it is to happen, given that it would require more radical intervention in their network infrastructure than they are currently prepared to contemplate, even when trying to bring fast broadband to dispersed rural communities where FTTC is of limited use.

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I suspect BT's statement is not so much a declaration of any new strategy but rather a "Please don't break us up" plea to OFCOM.

It's long been said the delivery of next-gen broadband to the final few percent cannot be dealt with by any one company or solution, it needs to form part of a multifaceted public policy.

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qas umm BT did have mobile plans and they already in motion, BT mobile is launched and they in the process of buying EE.

The digital divide is actually favouring rural areas at the moment, most of FTTP has not been in city areas in the UK.

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BT are a virtual operator, they have no network of their own.

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temporarily.

Give it a year they will own the EE network.

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They still won't be operating a separate network. They'll just own a network operated by EE. NSVL isn't merging with EE.

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They have a higher % of FTTP, however they also have a far higher % of properties sub-2Mb and sub-24Mb and a far lower % of properties at >100Mb.

Your interpretation of the numbers, I know those you are quoting, is bizarre when you claim rural areas are favoured because of this one data point out of 42.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/09/6.png

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I was wondering how the hell we got to 73.05% >100Mbps then I realised 72.2% of that is just cable. So only 0.85% non-cable/DSL (probably FTTP)

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Yes. The majority of that is Hyperoptic's FTTB.

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The math doesn't add up in that case - if 0.85% is potentially FTTP and 0.68% is Openreac/KC FTTP, that only leaves 0.17% for everything else including Hyperoptic.

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On a few of them the data doesn't add up at all, as cable + FTTP is a higher number than total over 100Mb.

EDIT: I'll raise this with the gentleman who crunched the numbers.

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I dipped my toe into the "Satellite downloads" era.
I had dual ISDN line at home (Home Highway which got a whopping 13k/s if bonded together IIRC) , so I gave satellite a try.
Managed to eventually run at about 10Mbps with 5 streams.

Was fun while it lasted , but obviously just downloads were via satellite and the uploads were via dialup (ISDN).

Thanks EuropeOnline for the times together and also a large thanks to Red Hot Ant and also Bitchslapper ... you will always be in my heart :)

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To be honest I didnt check any data :p

I just made the assumption based on the constant news on tbb about some new rural area getting FTTP and of course cornwall :)

Those figures well the city areas with high access speeds will be due to cable which is mostly urban and suburban rollout. Whilst openreach and all the small providers favour rural areas for FTTP.

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More info: http://blog.thinkbroadband.com/2015/...each-hardware/

Openreach appear to favour rural areas because they are being subsidised to provide coverage there and in some cases the most efficient way is with FTTP. Rarely the case in urban areas due to higher population density, though there are some instances of it happening.

Smaller operators favour rural areas because it's expensive to dig through pavements and carriageways in urban ones, not to mention there's more competition there.

CRAWLEY TE/TRS/AMC SDCRWLY 71 FTTP

Is hardly rural, nor is a new fibre cabinet for exchange-only lines in Wilmslow and Selby. Where it makes sense Openreach do FTTP instead of FTTC. In fact the absolute cheapest areas in the country for FTTP to cover outside of MDUs are centralised villages.