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Mike 21-09-2015 06:55

Teenager using internet late at night
 
Hi all

Is there any way of automatically turning off wifi between certain hours as my 13 year old daughter is watching Youtube etc late at night on her Ipad/Iphone. She has been told but she appears very sleepy in the morning !

Would like to set timing from 2130 - 0500 hrs

Virgin Super hub 2

Did think about simply unplugging it but house phone is a VOP one.

Would appreciate any help or advice.



Mank thanks

Regards

Mike

weenie 21-09-2015 07:05

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Have you thought about taking your daughter's phone and laptop out her room at 10pm.

Mike 21-09-2015 07:15

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weenie (Post 35799225)
Have you thought about taking your daughter's phone and laptop out her room at 10pm.

Thanks for the advice....due to my work pattern I am often asleep before them and rely on them following the rule !

weenie 21-09-2015 07:23

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Mike I honestly believe that once your daughter understands the reason that she is tired in the morning is because of staying up later than your have advised, she will soon follow your rules. Remember us parents know nothing ;)

pip08456 21-09-2015 07:23

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Have a read HERE.

Should do it easily for you.

Mike 21-09-2015 07:30

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35799229)
Have a read HERE.

Should do it easily for you.

Thanks for this

I currently run McAfee Total Protection .....wonder if they can be run together ?

Regards

Mike

Ken W 21-09-2015 09:47

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weenie (Post 35799225)
Have you thought about taking your daughter's phone and laptop out her room at 10pm.

Remove the modem and her phone and laptop

Taf 21-09-2015 09:52

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
This is why the shub is in our bedroom, and gets shut down for the night. And my daughter, the main culprit, surrenders her phone every night after switching it off. No obligation, just a way to help her get a good night's sleep.

Hugh 21-09-2015 09:57

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The SH2AC has timed MAC filtering.

http://192.168.0.1/VmRgMacFiltering.html

I don't know if the SH2 has it, but if it does, you can block those devices between hours such as 22:00 and 06:00.

qasdfdsaq 21-09-2015 10:43

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Because 13-year-old's don't know how to use 3G...

(Also, isn't this just going to be completely bypassed by VM's new WiFi sharing service?)

Hugh 21-09-2015 11:17

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Helpful advice is always welcome....

qasdfdsaq 21-09-2015 12:41

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35799295)
Helpful advice is always welcome....

What, like:

Quote:

Originally Posted by weenie (Post 35799225)
Have you thought about taking your daughter's phone and laptop out her room at 10pm.

or

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35799269)
Remove the modem and her phone and laptop

or

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35799270)
This is why the shub is in our bedroom, and gets shut down for the night. And my daughter, the main culprit, surrenders her phone every night after switching it off. No obligation, just a way to help her get a good night's sleep.

It's the same story just about every time this same question comes up. This is a parenting issue that can't be solved through simple technological measures, they are just too easy to bypass at that age.

Maggy 21-09-2015 13:05

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35799314)
What, like:



or



or



It's the same story just about every time this same question comes up. This is a parenting issue that can't be solved through simple technological measures, they are just too easy to bypass at that age.

To be honest that wasn't the question asked..the OP asked for a technological/software solution.;)

qasdfdsaq 21-09-2015 13:43

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35799318)
To be honest that wasn't the question asked..the OP asked for a technological/software solution.;)

Like I said, it's the same story just about every time this same question comes up. The end result after page and pages of the same thing is the realisation there is no effective technological solution.

LSainsbury 21-09-2015 13:45

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Anybody ever tried taking a smartphone / tablet away from a tired hormonal 13 year old and came out of it alive?

If my niece is anything to go by, nobody in the house would get any sleep!

qasdfdsaq 21-09-2015 14:20

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35799324)
Anybody ever tried taking a smartphone / tablet away from a tired hormonal 13 year old and came out of it alive?

If my niece is anything to go by, nobody in the house would get any sleep!

Throw Justin Bieber tickets at them.

Maggy 21-09-2015 15:51

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Actually the real answer is not to give said teenagers a mobile phone, smart or otherwise and keep the internet in the room that is occupied by the parents so a good and close eye can be kept on the child's internet usage. This was what I did..After all my generation got by without any gadgets and if there was a phone it was in the hearing of parents.

However I still think the OP requested a certain solution having considered the other option first.

Hom3r 21-09-2015 17:04

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
My sister kids know the rules.

If they abuse them the phone is removed for x amount of time. Which she has done. There must be a way for you to lock the phone/apps between certain hours?

I was wondering on a PC you can setup a PC to make parents as admin & children to user, so that they cannot use the PC between certain hours but as the admin to can use it.

Can a mobiles be setup as Admin/Users?

heero_yuy 21-09-2015 17:10

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
I don't think a techno solution will really work. There's always that nerdy kid in the playground that knows how to unlock/bypass any thing you might set up and if he (she) knows then all the kids know.

Much better to have an open relationship with your kids and for them to know the boundaries that you set and why. IMHO.

Hom3r 21-09-2015 19:18

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Thats what my sister has, abuse it you lose it.

She's taken the xbox from my nephew for not obeying the rules.

qasdfdsaq 22-09-2015 00:31

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35799351)
Actually the real answer is not to give said teenagers a mobile phone, smart or otherwise

Sadly doing that to a 13 year old these days will likely leave them socially isolated and screw them up emotionally.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35799363)
I don't think a techno solution will really work. There's always that nerdy kid in the playground that knows how to unlock/bypass any thing you might set up and if he (she) knows then all the kids know.

Eh. Most phones will automatically switch to 3G/4G if WiFi cannot connect for any reason.

Mike 22-09-2015 17:55

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Hello all

Really appreciate all the advice and views given

Just to update you :

I called a house meeting with my 2 daughters (15/12 year olds) last night at 1930hrs

On the Agenda was

Appointment of chair / minute taker
Pocket money
Internet Access
Guinea Pig hairs
Homework
AoB


The following was agreed after much debate

3 chores need to be completed daily to obtain weekly pocket (LB to produce a chart to monitor / record / sign off tasks as complete. (No subcontracting of any chores allowed)
Internet access will be provided until 2145 pending agreeing a schedule for weekday evening to include when homework will be done)*
A dog basket will be brought to stop the Guinea pig from peeing on the sofa and capture any hairs.
Home work will be done each evening from 1800 -1900 hrs (no audio / TV during this period)*
Finally minutes agreed and signed off by all present
A meeting has been fixed for a weeks time to review above

Thanks again

heero_yuy 22-09-2015 18:15

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I like the approach of a proper meeting. Helps train youngsters in the way things are done when they get to work.

:tu:

Glad you were able to get a mutual agreeable way to do things.

Chris 22-09-2015 18:39

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Unfortunately there will have been a secret daughters-only meeting at 2330 hours at which it was resolved that all resolutions passed in full family meetings should be treated as advisory-only unless also approved at said daughters-only meeting.

;)

Hugh 22-09-2015 18:48

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Then the secret parents-only meeting was held, and it was agreed to cancel the childrens' mobile phone tariffs unless they agreed to go by the terms of the original "all hands" meeting.

Maggy 22-09-2015 19:54

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35799406)
Sadly doing that to a 13 year old these days will likely leave them socially isolated and screw them up emotionally.

Or leave them open to cyber bullying..which will be even more isolating and lead to being screwed up emotionally.

qasdfdsaq 23-09-2015 00:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35799549)
Unfortunately there will have been a secret daughters-only meeting at 2330 hours at which it was resolved that all resolutions passed in full family meetings should be treated as advisory-only unless also approved at said daughters-only meeting.

;)

And any such approvals can still be vetoed by any peers at a Facebook peer-review meeting.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35799550)
Then the secret parents-only meeting was held, and it was agreed to cancel the childrens' mobile phone tariffs unless they agreed to go by the terms of the original "all hands" meeting.

And then one of their friends points out you can get a free PAYG SIM at any neighbourhood shop or supermarket.

Hugh 23-09-2015 08:36

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
I bet you're the guy in the design meeting who can always find the problems, but rarely offers a solution.... ;)

Mike 23-09-2015 10:11

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Right update for you

I am concerned

Eldest daughter (14) has called an Extraordinary Meeting tonight...

This follows a rude comment written on the monitoring chart and concern over the authenticity of a signature signing off a task as being complete :shocked:

I also get the impression they are going for a hike in pocket money.

Problem is youngest daugther (12) is chairing tonight and there is 2 of them so I might have problems if things are put to the vote

I am taking the minutes :)

Any advice ! ! !

peanut 23-09-2015 10:14

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Your house your rules ! Time to get strict, cruel to be kind and all that.....

qasdfdsaq 23-09-2015 11:03

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35799647)
I bet you're the guy in the design meeting who can always find the problems, but rarely offers a solution.... ;)

Oh I'm the guy who always has the solution to anything. Usually however, my solution is the one nobody likes.

I'd heed this guy's advice (adapted):

http://matt.might.net/articles/tenure/

Quote:

First, your question is trivial to answer: to minimize the risk – to zero – that you’ll have a disabled child, don’t have a child.
Best way to deal with problematic behaviour in teenage kids? Don't have teenage kids. Alternatively, try this:

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/6...ur-problem-now

Quote:

Dear ISIS,

Last week our seventeen year old daughter, Cressida Bowan, ran away from home to join your ranks. We have only one thing to say to you. Good luck! We raised a monster. And now she’s your monster, ISIS.

We understand that you hate America and our capitalist system. And hey, we get it, we really do. We focus way too much on material goods. But if that’s what you believe, then inviting an American seventeen year old girl to come live with you was the stupidest thing you could do. Cressida spent $1,600 on nail polish in the last year alone. When she finds out that she’s not allowed to use makeup, guess what she’s going to do? She’ll pit each of you against each other until she gets her own way. You don’t know the meaning of psychological warfare until you’ve raised a teenage girl.

Seriously, if you get her to have a meaningful conversation with you, please tell us how. We’ve threatened her with everything: boarding school, house arrest, jail- I don’t think that even the threat of getting shot to death will wake her up from her entitled dream world. I’m saying that as her mother.

Honestly, we think that joining ISIS is the best thing that could have happened to Cressy. We’re hoping it will be a real wakeup call. God knows nothing we did was getting through to her. Either way, she’s your problem now.

We’d say take care of our girl, but make sure you guys are taking care of yourselves. She can be really taxing on your mental health. Then again, maybe she’s finally found her people. Good luck!



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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 35799666)
Right update for you

I am concerned

Eldest daughter (14) has called an Extraordinary Meeting tonight...

This follows a rude comment written on the monitoring chart and concern over the authenticity of a signature signing off a task as being complete :shocked:

I also get the impression they are going for a hike in pocket money.

Problem is youngest daugther (12) is chairing tonight and there is 2 of them so I might have problems if things are put to the vote

I am taking the minutes :)

Any advice ! ! !

You're far too generous. When I was a 12 year old my parents dragged me out of my room, yelled at me, and beat me with a stick until I did what I was told.

Unless the offence was computer related, at which point they'd beat me with a computer keyboard.

Hugh 23-09-2015 11:25

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35799685)
Oh I'm the guy who always has the solution to anything. Usually however, my solution is the one nobody likes.

I'd heed this guy's advice (adapted):

http://matt.might.net/articles/tenure/



Best way to deal with problematic behaviour in teenage kids? Don't have teenage kids. Alternatively, try this:

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/6...ur-problem-now




---------- Post added at 12:03 ---------- Previous post was at 12:01 ----------



You're far too generous. When I was a 12 year old my parents dragged me out of my room, yelled at me, and beat me with a stick until I did what I was told.

Unless the offence was computer related, at which point they'd beat me with a computer keyboard.

If you meet one ore two assholes a day, they're the assholes - if everyone you meet is an asshole, it's probably you who is the asshole.

qasdfdsaq 23-09-2015 12:00

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35799696)
If you meet one ore two assholes a day, they [might be] the assholes - if everyone you meet is an asshole, it's probably you who is the asshole.

What if the only asshole I meet all day is the one in the bathroom mirror?

Hugh 23-09-2015 12:30

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35799715)
What if the only asshole I meet all day is the one in the bathroom mirror?

It means you are self-aware enough to recognise it, but not enough to want to do anything about it... ;)

As a well-known SF author once put it "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'".

Anyhoo, back on topic - here's hoping the OP's house meeting, and agreed outcomes, work.

qasdfdsaq 23-09-2015 14:22

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
That implies every asshole can be "done something about". Not all assholism can be fixed y'know. Especially when it comes to teenage daughters.

Mike 23-09-2015 15:48

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
OK thanks for all the constructive advise I think this thread has served it's purpose now...

I am going to suggest it's locked now as I am not feeling the love any more

Mike

Hugh 23-09-2015 15:58

Re: Teenager using internet late at night
 
Mod comment - thread closed at OP's request.


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