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johnholmes 16-09-2015 12:56

When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
The current Virgin Media Tivo is now past it's sell by date. It is incredibly slow, particularly some of the apps (e.g. Netflix is the worst).

So when are we getting a new 4K Tivo?

Sky are apparently close to release on their new box.

BenMcr 16-09-2015 13:02

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Nothing has been announced as to if / when Virgin Media will release a 4K compatible box.

There is only one 4K broadcast channels available in the UK which is exclusive to BT and sent over broadband at present, so there isn't really a pressing need.

Netflix 4K and Amazon 4K is available on UHD TVs with compatible hardware and an internet connection.

johnholmes 16-09-2015 13:10

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Thanks Ben.

The pressing need is that the current Tivo is so slow and annoying to use, 4K would just be a nice extra.

The Tivo is by far the slowest TV box currently on sale.

denphone 16-09-2015 13:15

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
There is no doubt now that we certainly need a new enhanced TiVo but whether its a 4K one is open to question.

hedgie 16-09-2015 13:23

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
I really dont see the need for 4k TiVO, for most programmes in a domestic situation how many folks can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p anyway ?

My view would be to hold fire on a new TiVO as such and focus on the next generation streaming and cloud solution with simpler multi room solutions.

Best

:)

DaMac 16-09-2015 13:28

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35798342)
Nothing has been announced as to if / when Virgin Media will release a 4K compatible box.

There is only one 4K broadcast channels available in the UK which is exclusive to BT and sent over broadband at present, so there isn't really a pressing need.

Netflix 4K and Amazon 4K is available on UHD TVs with compatible hardware and an internet connection.

You also forget that 2015 model Samsungs can do real youtube 4k (vp9) expect future on demand stuff in 4k from them as well.

hedgie 16-09-2015 13:30

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Not sure what compression yoiu can get on 4K but the difference in practical capacity between recording SD and HD makes a signifcant imapct on ho much you can record and archive. I can only image the hit on disk space a 4K film would make.... 2TB bo a standard ?

OLD BOY 16-09-2015 13:50

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 35798351)
Not sure what compression yoiu can get on 4K but the difference in practical capacity between recording SD and HD makes a signifcant imapct on ho much you can record and archive. I can only image the hit on disk space a 4K film would make.... 2TB bo a standard ?

I shouldn't think we would get a disk space problem with a 4K box. We will save our 'recordings' to the cloud instead.

BenMcr 16-09-2015 13:54

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35798350)
You also forget that 2015 model Samsungs can do real youtube 4k (vp9) expect future on demand stuff in 4k from them as well.

True - but it's the same thing as for Netflix and Amazon. If it's built into the TV you don't need to wait for a new TiVo box.

Stephen 16-09-2015 16:12

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnholmes (Post 35798346)
Thanks Ben.

The pressing need is that the current Tivo is so slow and annoying to use, 4K would just be a nice extra.

The Tivo is by far the slowest TV box currently on sale.

I personally don't find TiVo slow or annoying to use and I've been using since it first came out. But then I am not expecting it to run as fast as instant like my Mac or phone.

OLD BOY 16-09-2015 16:19

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35798369)
I personally don't find TiVo slow or annoying to use and I've been using since it first came out. But then I am not expecting it to run as fast as instant like my Mac or phone.

The Tivo can be a bit slow but it is not the major problem that some make it out to be, and it is certainly the STB with the best functionality.

I presume the slowness is simply the result of how much it can do together with inadequate memory.

Mad Max 16-09-2015 16:21

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
The time it takes to load Netflix is really poor.

heero_yuy 16-09-2015 18:17

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Until bit rates pickup to make even HD acceptable for panning content 4K is a pipe dream, at least at any quality for a moving picture.:(

RichardCoulter 16-09-2015 18:27

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35798369)
I personally don't find TiVo slow or annoying to use and I've been using since it first came out. But then I am not expecting it to run as fast as instant like my Mac or phone.

Why not? As a customer you should have high expectations IMO.

I think that the future of PVR's is limited. With the advent of VOD and cloud based applications; VM may well decide that the current TiVo will be the last.

OLD BOY 16-09-2015 20:48

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35798354)
True - but it's the same thing as for Netflix and Amazon. If it's built into the TV you don't need to wait for a new TiVo box.

Yes, Ben, this approach would be very well received in this household, as long as it didn't unexpectedly disappear after 12 months!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35798392)
Why not? As a customer you should have high expectations IMO.

I think that the future of PVR's is limited. With the advent of VOD and cloud based applications; VM may well decide that the current TiVo will be the last.

There's nothing wrong with the TIVO that more memory wouldn't resolve. It was quick when it first came out, remember?

Hugh 16-09-2015 20:55

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35798392)
Why not? As a customer you should have high expectations IMO.

I think that the future of PVR's is limited. With the advent of VOD and cloud based applications; VM may well decide that the current TiVo will be the last.

I'd rather have realistic expectations.

theone2k10 17-09-2015 00:42

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35798392)
Why not? As a customer you should have high expectations IMO.

I think that the future of PVR's is limited. With the advent of VOD and cloud based applications; VM may well decide that the current TiVo will be the last.

PVRs will be around for a very long time i think they will evolve with time.
Even though i'm a cord cutter i still find myself using my youview to record stuff often.

OhReally 17-09-2015 01:02

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35798369)
I personally don't find TiVo slow or annoying to use and I've been using since it first came out. But then I am not expecting it to run as fast as instant like my Mac or phone.

That's because you never used a *real* Tivo, the old silver box, single 50mhz processor job, button press response was always instant.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35798421)
There's nothing wrong with the TIVO that more memory wouldn't resolve. It was quick when it first came out, remember?

To us old timers who used the original silver Tivo, it's ALWAYS been dog-slow. :dozey:

pyrotenax 18-09-2015 22:03

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Personally I find the current 1TB TIVO box painfully slow , *clunky* , not that user friendly and not a patch on Sky HD box. Ok its got more tuners ... I will give it that , but thats about it.

As for 4K ... some people may not see any difference in resolution compared to 1080P , or even 720P but the UHD Video Pack definitely looks great on my Samsung. 4K Netflix on the otherhand isnt as impressive imho.

1andrew1 19-09-2015 15:03

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35798475)
PVRs will be around for a very long time i think they will evolve with time.
Even though i'm a cord cutter i still find myself using my youview to record stuff often.

Still films etc that are broadcast live and not available on-demand and even on-demand content is not there forever so I can't see PVRs going any day soon.

theone2k10 19-09-2015 17:13

Re: When are we getting a new 4K Tivo?
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35798953)
Still films etc that are broadcast live and not available on-demand and even on-demand content is not there forever so I can't see PVRs going any day soon.

Exactly mate mostly for me it's Nat geo stuff and Discovery although BT are getting much better at catch up and on demand content the Youview pvr still gets used heavily.
Also useful for cutting out adverts on itv and channel4 as both of their players demand you turn of adblockers.


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